Bleach Speculation (Chapters 300+)

[goldenspines]

Although it would certainly break the mold if was a hothead with ice abilities.

Ichigo's hollow form has got pretty hardcore hair which absolutely pwns Toshiro's hair do.

http://viperslayer.net/vastolordeichigo/Ichigo_Hollow_by_Kuroi_Tsuki.jpg

...no, it does not pwn.

Granted, it's lovely and feathery, but it does not beat Hitsugaya's hair yet.


Also, for not reading the past ten or so chapters and suddenly reading the most recent one, I see I haven't missed much. ^_^

[ich1990]

Also those... um... keratinized projections on the sides of his head lead to some rather unfortunate nickname potential.

No, I am not explaning it to you. Figure it out for yourself and once you do, keep it to yourself.

One thing that college has taught me is that everything, given a little thought, has unfortunate nickname potential. No matter what, you can't win. I don't blame Kubo Tite for not even trying.

[Fish and Chips]

Ichigo looks more like a thrash metal concert roadie than savior of the universe. Maybe if Aizen and Gin were in an indie band this would be a spectacular fight. With musical accompaniment, and Aizen puts his glasses back on, oh yeah.

Ichigo's new hollow form is more hilarious than "B.A." Seriously. All that hippie hair and the obvious parallels to Goku's SSJ3 form (plus the gratuitous homicidal mania?) Also those... um... keratinized projections on the sides of his head lead to some rather unfortunate nickname potential.

No, I am not explaning it to you. Figure it out for yourself and once you do, keep it to yourself.

Oh.

Ho ho ho ho~.

[Garjzla]

Hollow Ichigo is cool and lame at the same time, i wish he did not have the long hair..

[Mr. Hat'n'Clogs]

-warns you all that he is still in Hueco Muendo, but has a general idea of what happens-
I will admit that I do like Hitsugaya, but that's mostly because he uses ice. Ichigo, on the other hand, I think is a fairly well-developed character, at least when you take out the "learns everything in three days" factor.

Renji, on the other hand, is by far the best developed character in the series.

[Yamamaya]

Also those... um... keratinized projections on the sides of his head lead to some rather unfortunate nickname potential.

No, I am not explaning it to you. Figure it out for yourself and once you do, keep it to yourself.

Speaking of which, has anyone looked at the spoilers for this week's chapter?

[SPOILER]It appears that once again Kubo has gone A.D.D. on us and reduces Ichigo's BA level to let the Captains in on the fight. *sigh* [/SPOILER]

BTW thrash metal ultimate forms pwn.

[Derek_Is_Me]

Woot!!!

[uc pseudonym]

I'd have been disappointed if Ichigo was able to fight Yammi. He seemed barely stronger than the #6 Espada, beat #4 only because of a (presumably one-time) Hollow form, and except for the battle experience hasn't done anything to get stronger. Taking on #0 doesn't make any sense.

But I'm mainly here because I found something to contribute to the discussion:

[Garjzla]

^ win

and i totally agree with you there is no one for him to be able to beat #0, and if he wins just be "strength" then i will just sigh and think "why expect anything different"

that is the main pet peeve i have with bleach, the weird power matches and somehow ichigo always wins even though he should be the underdog and all that jazz

[Yamamaya]

^ win

and i totally agree with you there is no one for him to be able to beat #0, and if he wins just be "strength" then i will just sigh and think "why expect anything different"

that is the main pet peeve i have with bleach, the weird power matches and somehow ichigo always wins even though he should be the underdog and all that jazz

Ichigo doesn't necessarily always win. He gets beaten around quite a bit before he actually comes up on top. He fought Grimmy three times before he finally defeated him and he fought Ulquiorra twice.

In addition, Ichigo tends to have problems fighting minor characters who should be quite easy for him to defeat, a la Priveron Espada.

[Garjzla]

What do you guys think of the latest chapter?

i think it was cool in the end, in a way i was happy that ichigo did not just pwn yammy it makes more sense to have the other to captains do it

[Yamamaya]

*shrugs* It was okay but nothing special. Just a bit of build up.
I wonder if Yammy's hiero is somehow thicker around his neck than on his legs which is why Kenpachi was able to cut through his leg so easily.

I hope Ichigo actually manages to contribute to this fight but using his hollow form again. I'm not sure atm if it would be a good idea to let Unohana in on this fight. Kubo is seeming to be having trouble coming up with ideas for bankais.

[Yamamaya]

Sorry for the double post. Has anyone read the spoilers for this week yet? It appears my theory has been confirmed.

[SPOILER]Ichigo has a chance of winning against Aizen because he has never seen him release his shikai. It was in shikai form the moment Ichigo fought against him, which means that his ability is useless against him. [/SPOILER]

Storywise, this is kinda poor writing but it's okay.

[Fish and Chips]

[SPOILER]Ichigo has a chance of winning against Aizen because he has never seen him release his shikai. It was in shikai form the moment Ichigo fought against him, which means that his ability is useless against him.[/SPOILER]

Plan B: Aizen uses bankai.

Which the way things go in Bleach will probably summon God himself as an impartial objector.

[Yamamaya]

Plan B: Aizen uses bankai.

Which the way things go in Bleach will probably summon God himself as an impartial objector.

Ichigo's plan B: Somehow he gains complete control over his uber hollow form that we saw him fight Ulq. with and he manages to unleash some sort of "OVER 9000" power that makes him the king of HM.

With Aizen's hax shikai, it's possible he doesn't even have a bankai since he could just fake one with his shikai.

[Fish and Chips]

Ichigo's plan B: Somehow he gains complete control over his uber hollow form that we saw him fight Ulq. with and he manages to unleash some sort of "OVER 9000" power that makes him the king of HM.

If this happens I will have absolutely no reason to continue reading Bleach.

With Aizen's hax shikai, it's possible he doesn't even have a bankai since he could just fake one with his shikai.

All captain-level Shinigami have Bankai. Kenpachi is the convenient exception because he defeated his own captain and all his men are fiercely loyal (including two who have already achieved Bankai, but kept it a secret simply so that they could continue to serve under his command). Besides that, Bankai seem to be the product of particular spiritual strength and finesse. If Aizen can stop Ichigo's sword with his finger alone, yes I am going to continue to bring up this panel until Bleach ends, there's no good reason for him to not have a Bankai.

[Whitefang]

If Aizen can stop Ichigo's sword with his finger alone, yes I am going to continue to bring up this panel until Bleach ends, there's no good reason for him to not have a Bankai.

Well, it could actually be explained why he doesn't have it, for example his Zanpakuto hates his guts like everyone else does (perhaps it's conflicted). I doubt this is the case, but anything's possible.

[Fish and Chips]

Somehow, that someone of Mayuri's moral bankruptcy can have and master a Bankai that poisons people to death in mass droves, I can't see it being too much of a stumbling block for Aizen. Zanpakuto have always felt morally ambiguous to me, more in line with discovering the true nature of your blade than any particular moral alignment. While the idea of a sword that dislikes its wielder actually strikes me as kind of cool, it'd be a little later for Bleach to integrate that in my opinion.

I'm actually not that all fond of Bankai, personally (like a large number of things in Bleach, I think it's a great idea that simply got implemented poorly), but by this point, that even Aizen's mooks have Bankai and release forms they can bust out whenever they feel like it, that Aizen wouldn't would be a giant anticlimax, and I'd hope that Tite Kubo would at least have enough authorial integrity not to rush the final boss, even if he will invariably be defeated because Ichigo can power up for no reason.

[uc pseudonym]

I'm a bit glad to see it confirmed that Ichigo never saw Aizen's release. Not because it makes it even more inevitable that he do the usual protagonist thing, but because it silences all the fans who argued that him stopping Ichigo's charge with one finger was an illusion.

That scene was the only time I was glad that I followed the Bleach anime. Aizen stops the irritating fight song, and that alone would have been enough to jump him near the top of my favorite characters list, if such a list existed.

On the topic of his Bankai, we should also bring up that he essentially claimed to have twice a normal Captain's reiatsu (when using the Hogyoku). And all of his speech about needing to go beyond the limits of a shinigami would be somewhat pointless if he hadn't even bothered to develop a Bankai. Hopefully Kubo has any idea what it's going to be, but at the moment I'm actually more interested in how Hollow powers work for the rogue Captains.

[Ingemar]

Members in another forum mentioned that if Kubo wanted to be completely ungenerous, illogical and inconsistent (you know, the way he normally is) Aizen would be killed off by not-Ichigo before releasing his bankai. (And not-Ichigo would be someone we've never seen or heard of).

So how exactly can Ichigo win this fight? Blindfold himself while trying to cero indiscriminately? Lamentably his only battle tactics since Soul Society have been 1). fight until he gets stronger by means of "because the plot says so" 2). fight until someone stronger than him bails him out or 3). lose.

[Yamamaya]

Here's how Kubo will pull it.

1. Ichigo switches to da beast hollow form as soon as ole Aizen unleashes his shikai. Since it never saw the shikai release=not affected by it.

In some ways, I want Bleach to end here, it's really run it's course. But I highly doubt it will end soon. I sense a King of the SS arc coming up real soon.

I think we can pretty sure Ichigo is gonna defeat Aizen sometime. Not even ole Kubo is so illogical that he's going to go against what he has been building up(note: building up in Kubo's language=a few chapters).

The current Bleach filler is also decreasing in quality now that it's just about a dozen characters trying to complete their respective battles.

[Doubleshadow]

Wow, I'm surprised so many people posted, especially UC. I thought this thread would have been avoided out of disgust.

For my part: Was that the foreshadowing of a new arc with Evil Mad Scientist Protagonist as an antagonist? If nothing else, I always thought it was horrible the Ishida had to pair with the guy who torture and murdered his grandfather.

[Yamamaya]

I go through different periods with Bleach. Sometimes I go through periods of anticipation, other times I go through periods of disgust of how much it SUCKS lately.

[Whitefang]

My fantasy ending?

Hinamori. Hidden Reiatsu. Bankai. Massive nuclear explosions in Aizen's general direction.

[Yamamaya]

My fantasy ending?

Hinamori. Hidden Reiatsu. Bankai. Massive nuclear explosions in Aizen's general direction.

This.

Or Neliel pulling out a second release and opening a can of whup butt on Aizen.

[GeneD]

Ichigo's plan B: Somehow he gains complete control over his uber hollow form that we saw him fight Ulq. with and he manages to unleash some sort of "OVER 9000" power that makes him the king of HM.

I honestly don't really expect anything else at the moment.

While the idea of a sword that dislikes its wielder actually strikes me as kind of cool, it'd be a little later for Bleach to integrate that in my opinion.

Apparently in the anime the latest filler deals with something like this, but I'm not sure exactly about the plot and I kinda doubt it's any good anyway.

[Sebastian Michaelis]

I would like the end to be something along the lines of all the captins bankais known and most of them injuried or imoblizied and captin comander with ichigo vs aizen and some how the fight spills into the royal courtyard or something were the shinigami king is and in the mess of the fight the royal guards are killed by aizen leaving him to fight ichigo , captin commander and the shinigami king ending with aizen dying but the captin commander dying as well.

[Yamamaya]

Well I read the spoilers for the latest Bleach chapter. Once again it sounds rather crappy. There will also be a week off from Bleach for "research."

Yes Kubo better spend his researching time figuring out how to get Bleach back on track.

[Fish and Chips]

I am infinitely amused by the idea that Tite Kubo does research.

[mastersquirrel]

I am infinitely amused by the idea that Tite Kubo does research.

What Fish said.

I've been keeping up with the Bleach manga all this time out of some underlying hope that it will eventually turn into something awesome again and, so far, I have been disappointed.

As for the newest chapter, oh wait. Nothing happened in the most recent chapter except we now know Ichigo didn't see Aizen's release. How wonderful.

Apparently in the anime the latest filler deals with something like this, but I'm not sure exactly about the plot and I kinda doubt it's any good anyway.

Some misplaced curiosity caused me to watch one of the recent anime episodes and I can confirm this. Apparently some of the swords are getting tired of their wielders and creating their own humanoid forms to wield themselves (I may be a little off in my assessment though). Strange, yet somehow not completely unexpected from this series.