You know, for balance.
1. Magneto
2. Carnage
3-5: Dr. Octopus, Dr. Doom, and the Joker... these villains are great when written properly. However, it's also really easy to screw them up.
I'm fond of the Riddler, too, but I'm not sure where he falls on my list.
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Ra's Al Ghul for me. And Darth Vader
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Hmmm... is Darth Vader a "super" villain? He has powers, I guess... I mean, he's a great villain, but I don't know.
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Carnage most definately, and the Venom (not Eddie Brock) from the Venom comic. And Toxin, the next symbiote after Carnage, was an interesting one. Sabertooth can be pretty good, and I really like Omega Red. There's a couple people in one of the X-Men comics right now that I like, but I can't recall who they are at the moment. While it was out, the Danger Room was cool.
There's probably more, but I can't remember any of them at the moment.
There's probably more, but I can't remember any of them at the moment.
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Ah, Toxin... great. Now I feel the need to start a "Favorite super-antihero" thread. 
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As far as comics go, Ozymandus from Watchmen. He's prepared, calm, unusually dangerous, and he actually wins.
Perhaps we should clarify the qualifications for supervillain status, then. It strikes me as mostly apply only to American comics.
Animus Seed wrote:Hmmm... is Darth Vader a "super" villain? He has powers, I guess... I mean, he's a great villain, but I don't know.
Perhaps we should clarify the qualifications for supervillain status, then. It strikes me as mostly apply only to American comics.
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uc pseudonym wrote:As far as comics go, Ozymandus from Watchmen. He's prepared, calm, unusually dangerous, and he actually wins.
Oh, yeah. Forgot about him, though perhaps you should have put that in a spoiler.
Perhaps we should clarify the qualifications for supervillain status, then. It strikes me as mostly apply only to American comics.
Seems right. I don't believe anyone would refer to Luke Skywalker as a "super-hero."
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Animus Seed wrote:Oh, yeah. Forgot about him, though perhaps you should have put that in a spoiler.
I definitely considered it. But in the end I decided that most people won't be reading it, the spoiler tag wouldn't deter most people, and those who would truly appreciate Watchmen wouldn't be too crushed by a spoiler (albeit an important one).
Animus Seed wrote:Seems right. No one would refer to Luke as a "super-hero," I believe.
Ah. That's a better criterion than the ones I was considering. Seems fair to say that a supervillain is any antagonist opposed by a superhero.
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1. Sepiroth... "Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away from you." I any argues that he isn't super, I'll give him a call and have him summon meteor... (let's see any other supervillian summon astronomical bodies at their whim)...
2. Scepth... I mean... it's Scepth, can you name a cooler supervillian (besides perhaps Sepiroth?). As an official member of the ebil pals association, he is far greater than any other bad out there... accept once again Sepiroth.
2. Scepth... I mean... it's Scepth, can you name a cooler supervillian (besides perhaps Sepiroth?). As an official member of the ebil pals association, he is far greater than any other bad out there... accept once again Sepiroth.
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1) Hehehehehehe...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The Joker is number one in my book!
2) Venom
3) Doctor Octapus
4) Mr. Freeze (as potrayed from the Animated Series on. He was so much more tragic after that.)
5) Sandman
2) Venom
3) Doctor Octapus
4) Mr. Freeze (as potrayed from the Animated Series on. He was so much more tragic after that.)
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I always liked the Joker.
And Pasc, Sephi is NOT a super villain for at least these three facts: 1.) He has no super powers outside his genetic make up. 2.) Stan Lee never called him the 'supreme sintilating super powered Sephiroth' 3.) He doesn't wear tights.
And Pasc, Sephi is NOT a super villain for at least these three facts: 1.) He has no super powers outside his genetic make up. 2.) Stan Lee never called him the 'supreme sintilating super powered Sephiroth' 3.) He doesn't wear tights.
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Movies: Darth Vader
Cartoons: Magneto
Comics: Mr. Freeze
Gaming: Jecht from FFX
Manga: Shojiro and Yumi from Rurouni Kenshin
Anime: Lust
Fairy Tales: Beast of Beauty and the Beast
Modern Lit: Professor Moriarty, and Montressor from the Cask of Amontillado
Modern books: Severus Snape
Classic Lit: Lady MacBeth
Cartoons: Magneto
Comics: Mr. Freeze
Gaming: Jecht from FFX
Manga: Shojiro and Yumi from Rurouni Kenshin
Anime: Lust
Fairy Tales: Beast of Beauty and the Beast
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USSRGirl wrote:Whoooa... LADY MACBETH??? VADER?? This is gettin' waaay out of the supervillain realm...
I define super villian a little differently.
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He wouldn't have room to talk, not with his spelling, grammar, and penchant for inventing words.
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1: Venom
2: Scarecrow from Batman
3: Mr. Freeze
4: Lizard (even though he helps alot)
2: Scarecrow from Batman
3: Mr. Freeze
4: Lizard (even though he helps alot)
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"Ancient spirits of evil, transform this decayed form to MUMM-RA, THE EVER-LIVING!"
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Actually, I like the tragic villains who think they're doing the right thing. My favorite anime villains are Scar (I actually sympathize with him. Scary, huh?), The Laughing Man (he's so close to heroic, it's scary!), and Gendo Ikari (he's just so despicable, isn't he?)
--Man, I love that incantation
Actually, I like the tragic villains who think they're doing the right thing. My favorite anime villains are Scar (I actually sympathize with him. Scary, huh?), The Laughing Man (he's so close to heroic, it's scary!), and Gendo Ikari (he's just so despicable, isn't he?)
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rocklobster wrote:"Ancient spirits of evil, transform this decayed form to MUMM-RA, THE EVER-LIVING!"
--Man, I love that incantation
Actually, I like the tragic villains who think they're doing the right thing. My favorite anime villains are Scar (I actually sympathize with him. Scary, huh?), The Laughing Man (he's so close to heroic, it's scary!), and Gendo Ikari (he's just so despicable, isn't he?)
Agree with Scar and laughing man Rock. even though i didn't see Scar as much of a villian. But Lust from FMA near the end [Spoiler=FMA] She tryed to help Ed and Al but instead was killed by Wrath [/Spoiler]
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"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
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"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
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"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
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"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
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"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
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Villian does not always imply the character is also evil.Some times a person is a villian simply because they have different goals from the hero and is so in that way opposed to the hero.
With that in mind I would nominate Elektra and Xena who both start as villians in their respective universes and later become heroes.
But for the classical meaning of villian as being the evil nemesis of the hero I would have to go with Lex Luthor or The Joker.Though at times Lex may have actually come to Supes aid from time to time,not because of any charity he feels to the Man of Steel but because it fits his own agenda to at times be on the side of Superman.
So in short I nominate Lex Luthor as the perfect supervillian.
With that in mind I would nominate Elektra and Xena who both start as villians in their respective universes and later become heroes.
But for the classical meaning of villian as being the evil nemesis of the hero I would have to go with Lex Luthor or The Joker.Though at times Lex may have actually come to Supes aid from time to time,not because of any charity he feels to the Man of Steel but because it fits his own agenda to at times be on the side of Superman.
So in short I nominate Lex Luthor as the perfect supervillian.
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USSRGirl wrote:AKA Quicksilver... poor neglected son of Magneto often looked over in comics. (And minced to pieces in that stupid new Ultimate X series... >.>
Basically everyone with super speed in comics (American and Japanese, really) gets unfairly treated. If someone actually had the ability to move that fast, they should be able to do a lot more than they do. For example, they should be the most physically dangerous characters, but most authors seem to forget that force equals mass multiplied by acceleration.
Pascal wrote:1. Sepiroth... "Tell me what you cherish most... give me the pleasure of taking it away from you." I any argues that he isn't super, I'll give him a call and have him summon meteor... (let's see any other supervillian summon astronomical bodies at their whim)...
According to our standards, he doesn't even come close to making the cut. Cloud is a far, far cry from a superhero.
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I have to add Chairface from The Tick to my list, I don't know how I forgot him.
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I don't like _all_ Luthors, but as a supervillain he's certainly the classic--and extra respectable (if done right) because much like Batman he gets as far as he does on sheer uber-competency.
So, favorite Luthors:
#3 Gene Hackman. (Not the character per se, just Hackman's characterization.)
#2 Eliot S. Maggin's Luthor from _Last Son of Krypton_ and _Miracle Monday_ novels; so close but not quite to being a super-hero and a good man, while also capturing all the best qualities of all Luthors (including Hackman's sense of humor) up to that time. Ah, the end of the Silver Age.
#1 The Diniverse Luthor (from Superman TAS and JLU). In a fight, Maggin's Luthor would certainly win, but this is about ubercompetent (and uberarrogant) villainy.
Regarding the note earlier about superspeedsters getting shorted in comics--it has been noted, that when heroes are designed in the _Freedom Force_ games, superspeed makes them entirely broken, giving them enormous edges and virtually ensuring they'll win in a duel. So, experimental verification!
So, favorite Luthors:
#3 Gene Hackman. (Not the character per se, just Hackman's characterization.)
#2 Eliot S. Maggin's Luthor from _Last Son of Krypton_ and _Miracle Monday_ novels; so close but not quite to being a super-hero and a good man, while also capturing all the best qualities of all Luthors (including Hackman's sense of humor) up to that time. Ah, the end of the Silver Age.
#1 The Diniverse Luthor (from Superman TAS and JLU). In a fight, Maggin's Luthor would certainly win, but this is about ubercompetent (and uberarrogant) villainy.
Regarding the note earlier about superspeedsters getting shorted in comics--it has been noted, that when heroes are designed in the _Freedom Force_ games, superspeed makes them entirely broken, giving them enormous edges and virtually ensuring they'll win in a duel. So, experimental verification!
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If you think of it Luthor is the perfect supervillian because he has brains,money and
charisma.He also knows when it's politic to act in unison with his mortal enemy.This is why Luthor ends up getting elected President of the United States prior to the Our Worlds At War story arch in DC comics and also why one of the last major story archs in JLUnlimited centered around the same plot of Luthor running for President.
It's also why other supervillians like the Joker always end up in some warehouse in
Gotham or Metropolis.They simply don't have the moxy to go further where the real power is.
As far as superspeedsters go,in DC comics all superspeedsters are confined by the limits of the Speed Force.They did an entire story arch of The Flash that showed what happened when Wally was able to break the limit.Most bizaare was a future world where The Flash was practically worshipped as the Ideal Hero(if you know
Wally West you know how much of a shock that WAS!)
charisma.He also knows when it's politic to act in unison with his mortal enemy.This is why Luthor ends up getting elected President of the United States prior to the Our Worlds At War story arch in DC comics and also why one of the last major story archs in JLUnlimited centered around the same plot of Luthor running for President.
It's also why other supervillians like the Joker always end up in some warehouse in
Gotham or Metropolis.They simply don't have the moxy to go further where the real power is.
As far as superspeedsters go,in DC comics all superspeedsters are confined by the limits of the Speed Force.They did an entire story arch of The Flash that showed what happened when Wally was able to break the limit.Most bizaare was a future world where The Flash was practically worshipped as the Ideal Hero(if you know
Wally West you know how much of a shock that WAS!)
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