The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
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yep. i saw on animenewsnetwork that this anime is one of the best if not the best anime. it looked like a very wierd anime and the plot sounds unusual. what is it that makes this anime so good? i've never really bothered to give the anime a try though. but even so, what is it that makes this anime so highly rated, that it even beats Monster, Fullmetal Alchemist, and even Cowboy Bebop.
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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jon_jinn - Posts: 3261
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jon_jinn wrote:yep. i saw on animenewsnetwork that this anime is one of the best if not the best anime. it looked like a very wierd anime and the plot sounds unusual. what is it that makes this anime so good? i've never really bothered to give the anime a try though. but even so, what is it that makes this anime so highly rated, that it even beats Monster, Fullmetal Alchemist, and even Cowboy Bebop.
Hmmm, well, first, don't get your hopes up so high. If you expect it to be the best thing since sliced bread, it will disappoint you. Because-- well, nothing is as cool as sliced bread. Nothing.
Anyways, what makes Haruhi so great, IMHO, is that you don't really see the plot coming. You're just watching this average slice of life, school life show, which is unusually funny, when these revelations start coming out. Major revelations. The kind that takes everything, turns it all upside down, and shakes out its pockets for change.
In addition to that, I think this show's major selling point are its characters. This story puts together some of the best and most likeable personalities of any show in a long time. They're all so loveable and unique. Especially Kyon, whose sarcastic narration turns a show that might have been a silver lined tale into a pure gold production.
There's my two cents.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Mangafanatic - Posts: 4918
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hmmm...so i take it that this is a drama/comedy anime right? when i first saw it, i thought it was like a romance anime and passed it by. anyways, is there any objectionable content in this anime? i might be interested in checking it out.
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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jon_jinn - Posts: 3261
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Pfft, I was totally all Haruhi-ing before you whipper-snappers.
And while the show has some fanservice, I really can't see why anyone would think it's overwhelming. It's very tame, IMO. If it were a lot, I'd expect tons of upskirts and the like. It was pretty tame, if you ask me.
But after finishing 14 episodes, I really loved the series a lot. I'm sure KyoAni will do another season eventually, after this whole Kanon thing gets done.
And while the show has some fanservice, I really can't see why anyone would think it's overwhelming. It's very tame, IMO. If it were a lot, I'd expect tons of upskirts and the like. It was pretty tame, if you ask me.
But after finishing 14 episodes, I really loved the series a lot. I'm sure KyoAni will do another season eventually, after this whole Kanon thing gets done.
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Joshua Christopher - Posts: 1982
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The term "fan service" may not be the best description of the problems I had with the show. In terms of panty shots and jiggle, it was relatively mild. What was distasteful was Haruhi treating Mikuru as a toy and a tool. In an earlier comment I posted a link to screen captures of the sequence in which Haruhi obtains a computer. The moderator found that offensive enought to delete the link. Elsewhere, I've come across the term "costume rape" to describe Haruhi's forcing Mikuru into maid outfits and bunny suits. Suzumiya Haruhi may be something out of the ordinary, but I can only recommend it with reservations.
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Tancos - Posts: 408
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Joshua Christopher wrote:Pfft, I was totally all Haruhi-ing before you whipper-snappers.
Watch your mouth there, young one. I downloaded episode 1 the day it came out.
That's right, bow to your sensei. XD
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Mangafanatic - Posts: 4918
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Mangafanatic wrote:Just a random fun fact for all the other Honey and Clover fans who are also fans of this show-- did anybody realize that Kyon's seiyuu is also Mayama fromm H&C? I didn't figure it out until later when I read it in an article. I couldn't believe I didn't make such an obvious connection. Personally, I think Kyon's narration in this show made it what it was, so, mad props to the Seiyuu.
Woah, I THOUGHT he sounded familiar! No wonder ^^
I just started watching this last night, and I'm already hooked on the characters and confused by the sudden jump between ep 3 and 4. XD; Am I right in assuming they don't exactly tell everything and go in order? B/c I was like "Oh there's another club member now. Where'd he come from?"
I skipped the "fake" episode at first, but now that I know the characters its hilarious! Kyon's commentary is making me laugh so hard.
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Kawaiikneko - Posts: 1404
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[quote="Kawaiikneko"]Woah, I THOUGHT he sounded familiar! No wonder ^^
I just started watching this last night, and I'm already hooked on the characters and confused by the sudden jump between ep 3 and 4. XD]
Yeah, the episodes are arrange in an unchronological order. If you can't take that, you can find some episode guides that provide the chronological order for the episodes.
When I first started watching the show, I really wanted to see it Chronologically, but, now, after having seen it all, I'm glad it's presented the way it is. Makes it more fun. If I were you, I'd stick with it, even though it does get a little confusing.
I just started watching this last night, and I'm already hooked on the characters and confused by the sudden jump between ep 3 and 4. XD]
Yeah, the episodes are arrange in an unchronological order. If you can't take that, you can find some episode guides that provide the chronological order for the episodes.
When I first started watching the show, I really wanted to see it Chronologically, but, now, after having seen it all, I'm glad it's presented the way it is. Makes it more fun. If I were you, I'd stick with it, even though it does get a little confusing.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Mangafanatic - Posts: 4918
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I have this thing against not watching a series in the way the creator meant them to be watched, so I'm definitely going to watch it in the "right" non-chronological way XD;
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finished watcing the series today. theres some stunning episodes in there. i loved the whole 'day of sagittarius III' computer game challenge episode. It was one of those anime's that i hope for sequels but know theres prob not gonna be any. Though i could be wrong.
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Sephiroth - Posts: 631
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I personally took the better part of the morning to watch this on youtube. Once I got past the episode order I found it's pretty cool which, shocked me seeing as I generally only enjoy the sometimes repeditive shonen style of anime. As far as the post of KenshinJutsu, anime should always be taken with a grain of salt. Haruhi is only viewed as a God by one main character, Kyon's relationship with Mikuru is easily ecuated to adolesent love, and besides it, along with most anime, is created by a secular author thusly not having the same values as something created by a Christian author. I should probably also mock your statement of how when God destroys the world it's because he loves us. But being as I'm a Christian and this is a Christian board, I won't. Pft Impur spirits...
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God's Samurai - Posts: 60
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KenshinJutsu wrote:One should not be misguided by trivializing atrocities. A SIN is a SIN, no matter if it is animated or not.
True, but you have to look at the intent of the creator. Is it likely the creator made this anime in order to have Haruhi appear to be God or a god? No, as it's already been stated that only one character views her as a god. Had the character actually stated that she was God or a god, that would be a different story.
We here at CAA believe a sin is a sin, animated or not. However, since Japan has an obvious background of Shintoism and Buddhism, there aren't going to be very many anime that have a Christian perspective (and many that try to have a Christian perspective end up being unintentionally blasphemous).
The key is the intent.
There is no such thing as evolution. There is no way such a hypothesy is any more credible than MAN being created by GOD and using a RIB to create woman.
Except there are theistic evolutionists, which kind of destroys your theory (in fact, I believe that Christians are required to believe in evolution, seeing as how all the races of the world came from 8 people, so unless Noah was white, his wife was Asian, one of his kids was black, another was Hispanic, another was Greek...you get the picture, so evolution has to exist).
And as far as your point about it not being any more credible, the difference is the basic tenets of evolution can be proven in a laboratory, whereas we must take woman being created from a rib to be the word of God. God is not provable in a lab, I'm sorry. If He was, there would be no need for faith.
EDIT: Forgot to say that this subject is by the rules non-debatable on CAA. Theological discussion/debates are NOT allowed, read the FAQ. I was merely putting forth that Christianity and evolution are not exactly opposed, and this line of exchange should halt right here, as it is not allowed on CAA.
Adolescent love or not, it is a SINFUL thing to depict. Unless they are married, such things are DISGUSTING and shameful to all parties involved.
Excuse me? Since when? What Bible are you reading? Adolescent LUST is a sinful thing to depict, but LOVE is pure and holy and true. I have multiple verses to back this up. Love is never evil and shameful, ever. It is impossible for it to be so.
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Nate - Posts: 10725
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KenshinJutsu wrote:One should not be misguided by trivializing atrocities. A SIN is a SIN, no matter if it is animated or not. Or do you believe that art doesn't have to follow such rules? If so, then the entire point of this forum is moot.
Itsuki may have said that she's a god, but Yuki also noted that she was capable of advanced evolution. There is no such thing as evolution. There is no way such a hypothesy is any more credible than MAN being created by GOD and using a RIB to create woman.
Adolescent love or not, it is a SINFUL thing to depict. Unless they are married, such things are DISGUSTING and shameful to all parties involved.
Also, don't kid yourself, kid. One must usually possess some amount of wit to mock something. I'm not the "impur" spirit here.
True a sin is a sin, I never denied that. But it is also true that Entertainment is Entertainment is it not? Fiction is fiction that is an undenieable fact. I view evolution as a foolish way to explain man's creation if taken seriously. In almost any form of entertainment that gives mention to it, adds along with it other impossibilities that are bunk if taken seriously. There for I find evolution is a joke and a wonderful work of fiction in and of itself. Without delving into theology any further, I remind you, It's Not Real and never claimed to be.
On a different subject, you're one to talk about wit being as you lacked the brain function to recognize " Pft, Impur spirit" as a mockery of your term for us. Also, If you don't like something, don't go into a disscussion about it to mock it. That's something children would do. And with that I'm going to be the bigger man and call this arguement closed before a Mod does.
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God's Samurai - Posts: 60
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KenshinJutsu wrote:Also, don't kid yourself, kid. One must usually possess some amount of wit to mock something. I'm not the "impur" spirit here.
Well, while I could make an full-on reply to your posts in their entirety, I'm a little short on time, so I'll just start with the quote above.
Ok. Problem number one, you came off as rude and haughty in what you said. Problem number two, God's Word says to speak the truth in love. I don't think you really pulled that off. Problem number three, I think you fail to realize that this show is complete fantasy, meaning it is neither trying to get the viewer to believe it, nor is it trying to corrupt the viewer's religion. Problem number four, if you had such a problem with the show, why did you watch it in the first place?
If I had more time, I'd take this a bit further; however, I've gotta run. See you around the boards!
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I have a feeling this thread will be locked by the time I come back from work, but I will say this. YOU seem to be the one who's arrogant and needs to learn humility, not me. Second, how DARE you accuse me of being an atheist. You do NOT know me, and you have NO right to judge me. You have no right to judge ANY Christian. You cannot say that any Christian who believes in evolution isn't a Christian. At that point, you are claiming the divine right of the Lord God Himself to judge the souls of others. That's blasphemous.
I could just as easily accuse you of being a Pharisee, but I don't, because I have no right to judge you.
By the way, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I admit I'm not the best Christian, but it isn't because of my beliefs, it's because of my sin. I am saved by the GRACE of God. Let me see, last time I read my Bible, it said God's grace is sufficient to cover ANY sin. Lest you misunderstand what that means, it means even if I am sinning by believing in evolution, it doesn't matter, because the sacrifice of Christ on the cross forgives me of that. That means I will be told by the Lord, "Well done my good and faithful servant."
By that logic, the Bible is horribly sinful, as many people in the Bible murder, rape, worship idols, and the like. Just because someone in the series does it, doesn't make the series evil, just as multiple people sinning in the Bible doesn't make the Bible evil.
I agree with you that lusting over a female's body is immoral. I never said that Kyon's feelings were love. They aren't. I was saying it's wrong to state adolescent love is sinful.
Anyway, whatever...like I said, I'm sure this thread will be locked when I come back. All I will say is that trolls aren't just people who come to the site and post porn and bad language and stuff. Trolls are anyone who come in and purposely try to stir up discontent and are rude to users. You might want to pray a bit and learn how to not come off as so haughty and belligerent. I know I'll be doing the same thing.
I could just as easily accuse you of being a Pharisee, but I don't, because I have no right to judge you.
By the way, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I admit I'm not the best Christian, but it isn't because of my beliefs, it's because of my sin. I am saved by the GRACE of God. Let me see, last time I read my Bible, it said God's grace is sufficient to cover ANY sin. Lest you misunderstand what that means, it means even if I am sinning by believing in evolution, it doesn't matter, because the sacrifice of Christ on the cross forgives me of that. That means I will be told by the Lord, "Well done my good and faithful servant."
if only a single character kills, rapes, and otherwise SINS, it is still a bad reflection on the series
By that logic, the Bible is horribly sinful, as many people in the Bible murder, rape, worship idols, and the like. Just because someone in the series does it, doesn't make the series evil, just as multiple people sinning in the Bible doesn't make the Bible evil.
I agree with you that lusting over a female's body is immoral. I never said that Kyon's feelings were love. They aren't. I was saying it's wrong to state adolescent love is sinful.
Anyway, whatever...like I said, I'm sure this thread will be locked when I come back. All I will say is that trolls aren't just people who come to the site and post porn and bad language and stuff. Trolls are anyone who come in and purposely try to stir up discontent and are rude to users. You might want to pray a bit and learn how to not come off as so haughty and belligerent. I know I'll be doing the same thing.
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KenshinJutsu wrote:It does not matter how many characters view her as a god. One is all it takes. Thou shalt not have false idols. To put this in terms you may understand, if only a single character kills, rapes, and otherwise SINS, it is still a bad reflection on the series as a whole. Did such a character intend to do it? Yes. However, if the artist used a blanket statement to cover up such actions, I would hope you wouldn't play it off as accidental. Even if they have such a background, all religions besides Christianity are false, should we not be converting them and saving their souls rather than approving of such blasphemy? We should, as this is indeed our duty as GOD's messengers.
There is no way evolution is possible. That is strictly going against biblical teachings. Or perhaps you're one of those ATHEISTS who would use such logic to argue that the sun does not revolve around the Earth for your arguments. Times change, but GOD's TRUTH does not. Christians who believe in evolution are not Christians at all.
As for my BIBLICAL studies, I read the one true bible. Whether you managed to pick up on it or not, Kyon lusts Mikuru. Such an example is when he falls asleep and wakes up. Once he realizes that Mikuru was changing in his close vicinity he wished he would have been awake for it. Lusting after a female's body is not love. It is sick and immoral.
I am glad that you realize the TRUTH of the infallicies of evolution. However, this sort of Fiction is still unforgivable with its use of such BLASPHEMOUS things. Religious texts of Hindus are fictionous as well, and it is certainly not a good idea that they should be taken lightly.
I believe it would be in both of your best interests to stop now. It seems you both are forgetting the SEVEN VIRTUES and are instead preoccupied with your sense of self-worth on these forums. HUMILITY is something you should both learn.
The character in questoin, Itsuki Koizumi, does not specifically refer to Haruhi as God. He simply refers to her as a higher being. This does not equivalate her to OUR God, but to a person with powers higher than that of a normal human being. In essence, it could be said that Haruhi is lesser than God (and Jesus), but higher than a normal human being. Besides, it is Kyon who mistakes what Itsuki is saying for believing that he thinks Haruhi is God. Itsuki's words are only meant to explain that he believes his powers are the result of what Haruhi wished for. He does not say he believes Haruhi is God.
Um, only some Christians don't believe in evolution, namely those of the Southern states. Once again, we have a great example of how everyone interprets God's will in a different manner. I believe the Genesis story to a certain degree, but to me, it seems a little too fantastical, especially since we have palpable proof of neanderthals. Besides, once again, this is only what one character BELIEVES, and since this character is a data program, she cannot view Christianity as fact, because no one can do that.
Okay, exactly what is the "one true bible"? Is this the one from the Middle Ages that could have you damned for anything you said and did? Yes, Kyon is attracted to Mikuru, as all normal adolescent boys are attracted to normal adolescent girls. Because our bodies are the only palpable thing we have, our first judgments of people we meet are, of course, of their outer selves. When Kyon first meets Mikuru in that incredibly awkward scenario, Kyon does not show signs of lust or perversion, but more of disgust with Haruhi for doing such a thing. It is only later and after Kyon gets to know Mikuru that he begins to like her. And since her body is a part of her, just as her soul is, he is attracted to that as well.
Each and every person of the show only views Haruhi in a certain manner but that is simply their own views and ideals, just as the rest of the world has their own views and ideals? Are you saying that God will turn his back on the Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. just because they do not outgoingly believe in HIM? The bible declares that those who do good things in their life will not be rewarded. The light of God is the same for each and every person and giving it another name does not mean that God will hate you, because you still see the light. If God truly relies on scripture and the like, then you, as well as everyone else in this world, is in for a rude awakening. As our Lord Jesus once said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
Humility is a lesson well-learned, but people also have the privelege of free will, and standing up for what they believe. I bet you don't insult people who speak of the Lord in such fervor, so why someone on these boards. We all believe different things and want them to be acknowledged. If they need to learn a lesson in humility, you do too!
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Just a suggestion for everyone...let's not argue with KenshinJutsu.
While I have a feeling he/she is a troll, if he/she is not, then he/she is missing a very important idea amidst all of this seemingly lofty discussion into biblical values and the character of God and all that: "For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work." - James 3:16. All he/she is trying to do is cause strife, and it would be best not to engage it.
Just a thought.
While I have a feeling he/she is a troll, if he/she is not, then he/she is missing a very important idea amidst all of this seemingly lofty discussion into biblical values and the character of God and all that: "For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work." - James 3:16. All he/she is trying to do is cause strife, and it would be best not to engage it.
Just a thought.
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KenshinJutsu wrote:As for Splitter...
Itsuki did indeed refer to her as a god. If not directly, then it was easily inferred.
The BIBLE is infallible. Doubting even a portion of it is SACRELIGIOUS.
I already noted a situation in which Kyon lusts after Mikuru. Lusting after someone is much different than loving them. You can do both, but one of those actions is still a SIN.
As for those with the fake religions, they will all burn in HELL for their BLASPHEMY.
I just went back and watched that episode so I couldn't be proven wrong. His EXACT words are "Human beings refer to a higher power like that as God". He is inferring that it was what she could be, but he only sees her as the one who gave him his powers by wishing for them.
Please stop capitalizing certain words. It's really annoying... and I'm not doubting the Bible, but please tell me what the "one true Bible" is so I can affirm this for myself.
Yes, Kyon is attracted to Mikuru. Show me one straight guy that doesn't consider a beautiful woman attractive and wish he could be with her. Besides, lust is a human reaction. It is not a good reaction, but it is human. That is why God is forgiving, so we can learn from our sins.
Religion is just one way to affirm what one believes in. The person in higher power is not what is truly important, but the lessons that higher power leaves us with. Isn't that what Jesus tried to show the Pharisees two thousand years ago?
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KenshinJutsu wrote:So because I am willing to call out this BLASPHEMOUS anime, you refer to me as a troll? Do not think so highly of yourself, lest you continue to grow more prideful and full of yourself.
You do not refer to me, instead choosing to ignore me. Again, thinking that you are of a higher position than me. Yet again, your pride claims the best of you.
There was no need for such a comment. And, to be honest, I am offended.
Your definiton of blasphemous anime makes it so that the majority of anime is blasphemous. Please, I'd like to know one anime that you think is approving to your manner.
We are not saying anyone is in a higher power, but it is clear that the person who is winning a debate will always seem like they are in a higher power. And in my opinion, your overly-confident remarks make me believe you are the one with the prideful nature.
At Kkun's honorable request, I'll refrain from carrying this conversation any further. I believe I've said enough as is.
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Splitter 2.0 - Posts: 307
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I had a big response planned to that last one, but I decided to delete it to stay with my own request to drop it. Sorry to make a response to it, guys. I got caught up in arguing with him.
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Just a side note, Newtype magazine confirmed a season 2 for airing, I didn't catch any dates in the scans or I might have been reading it wrong.
(and just ignore KenshinJutsu, I was tracking a thread a few minutes ago with their first post at another forum that has spawned plenty of trolls toward here)
(and just ignore KenshinJutsu, I was tracking a thread a few minutes ago with their first post at another forum that has spawned plenty of trolls toward here)
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kenshinJutsu wrote:Compared to GOD's vision, you are blind. You would do well to remember that.
and maybe YOU should also remember that before passing judgement on us. As Christians we shouldn't come into a place and say EVERYTHING YOU LIKE IS UN-HOLY. We are telling people about christ through something that the conservatives would repremend us through.
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.Sync wrote:Just a side note, Newtype magazine confirmed a season 2 for airing, I didn't catch any dates in the scans or I might have been reading it wrong.
It was confirmed that the interview with the creator and director only says that they are considering a second season, but nothing is for certain yet. We'll most likely have to wait until the Kanon remake is over for anything official, but I'd rather have them do one more season of Full Metal Panic! before they go back to Haruhi.
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Splitter 2.0 - Posts: 307
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Since you're new, Kenshin, please allow me to welcome you to CAA. We're happy to have you. My name is Mangafanatic, more affectionately known as Osaka, and I am a moderator here at CAA.
First, let me just say that a great deal of this discussion that has gone on today has occurred on a very angry level, and I'm disappointed that we couldn't all handle ourselves kindly, realizing that there will be differences among believers. Just because we disagree with one another, that does not give us free reign to condemn or be angry with one another. Remember, we are to correct in love. Calling others proud is in no way a loving behavior.
We give a suggested age in our anime reviews because some subject matter upsets young children. Let us take for example the movie "The Passion of the Christ." Now, I consider this film to be a wonderful film which can help us to even more apprectiate everything Christ endured to pay for our sin. However, I would not suggest that a six year old watch the movie because there is a heavy level of violence. Now, just because I suggest it to an older audience doesn't mean that the film isn't an edifying piece of work. THAT is why we give suggested ages. Certain material is more appropriate for those who are old enough to handle it. (And some material shouldn't be watched in the first place).
Concerning why we can't discuss certain anime, it's not the reason you think. The reason we have a list of anime we don't discuss on the boards is because those titles on that list have caused very angry arguments. We don't allow debate of a condemning nature on this site. The "Do Not Discuss List" is not a list of anime that we have decided are "of the devil". Rather, it's a list of anime that cause arguments. Period.
Furthermore, keep in mind that watching a show doesn't mean you believe those things offered. Afterall, in the Bible there are records of people who worshipped foreign deities. Does that mean we should not read the Bible. It contains foreign deities. Likewise, you mentioned in another thread that you would recommend Hiragushi to any Christian. While I've only watched a few episodes, what I've seen of that anime would indicate that it contains murder. Murder is mentioned in the Ten Commandments just as not worshipping any gods aside from Jehova. How can one condemn this show because characters in the show hold Haruhi is a "God like" position and not Hiragushi when it involves murder?
You can read through this thread-- I have my issues with this anime, but the truth is that I believe that we should value unity among brothers over the condemnation of the others. As a forum, this is our policy. We do not allow this kind of debate and attack of one another. If anyone involved has an issue with this-- please PM me or any other mod. We will explain it to you.
This conversation will be discussed amongst the staff, and any punishment which needs to be handed out will be dealt out within the next several days.
Now, since I believe this thread still has value, I'm going to leave it open and say that anyone who brings up this string of conversation again will recieve a strike. You have been warned. All other Haruhi related conversation can continue.
If you have an issue with any of the above, please PM me. Furthermore, those of you who feel you must continue this discussion can take it to PM, if you have to.
First, let me just say that a great deal of this discussion that has gone on today has occurred on a very angry level, and I'm disappointed that we couldn't all handle ourselves kindly, realizing that there will be differences among believers. Just because we disagree with one another, that does not give us free reign to condemn or be angry with one another. Remember, we are to correct in love. Calling others proud is in no way a loving behavior.
KenshinJutsu wrote:If it is such a complete fantasy, then why is it in the reviews on this site you feel the need to inform people how old they must be to watch the shows? Or why is it that we can't discuss certain anime either? If you are indeed correct in your reasoning, then these actions taken would be completely illogical and based off of ignorance.
We give a suggested age in our anime reviews because some subject matter upsets young children. Let us take for example the movie "The Passion of the Christ." Now, I consider this film to be a wonderful film which can help us to even more apprectiate everything Christ endured to pay for our sin. However, I would not suggest that a six year old watch the movie because there is a heavy level of violence. Now, just because I suggest it to an older audience doesn't mean that the film isn't an edifying piece of work. THAT is why we give suggested ages. Certain material is more appropriate for those who are old enough to handle it. (And some material shouldn't be watched in the first place).
Concerning why we can't discuss certain anime, it's not the reason you think. The reason we have a list of anime we don't discuss on the boards is because those titles on that list have caused very angry arguments. We don't allow debate of a condemning nature on this site. The "Do Not Discuss List" is not a list of anime that we have decided are "of the devil". Rather, it's a list of anime that cause arguments. Period.
Furthermore, keep in mind that watching a show doesn't mean you believe those things offered. Afterall, in the Bible there are records of people who worshipped foreign deities. Does that mean we should not read the Bible. It contains foreign deities. Likewise, you mentioned in another thread that you would recommend Hiragushi to any Christian. While I've only watched a few episodes, what I've seen of that anime would indicate that it contains murder. Murder is mentioned in the Ten Commandments just as not worshipping any gods aside from Jehova. How can one condemn this show because characters in the show hold Haruhi is a "God like" position and not Hiragushi when it involves murder?
You can read through this thread-- I have my issues with this anime, but the truth is that I believe that we should value unity among brothers over the condemnation of the others. As a forum, this is our policy. We do not allow this kind of debate and attack of one another. If anyone involved has an issue with this-- please PM me or any other mod. We will explain it to you.
This conversation will be discussed amongst the staff, and any punishment which needs to be handed out will be dealt out within the next several days.
Now, since I believe this thread still has value, I'm going to leave it open and say that anyone who brings up this string of conversation again will recieve a strike. You have been warned. All other Haruhi related conversation can continue.
If you have an issue with any of the above, please PM me. Furthermore, those of you who feel you must continue this discussion can take it to PM, if you have to.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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KenshinJutsu wrote:If you read my posts, I feel I argued my point well.
Anyway, you obviously did not get the joke. Feel free to ban me, I'm not Christian. I know you guys hate debate*, so I was just being sarcastic.
*Also see: Intelligent thought, not being sheep, etc.
We ban people for breaking rules, not because they're not Christians. We have plenty of non-Christians on this forum. However, you knowingly broke the rules. And there are consequences for that.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Please stop generalizing. You saying that all Christians are weak and stupid is the same thing as certain people saying non-Christians are heathens.
You believe what you want, we believe what we want.
Something invisible can't be proven? What about the air we breathe?
You believe what you want, we believe what we want.
Something invisible can't be proven? What about the air we breathe?
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well, to get a little off-subject and sort of end this argument (although Mangafanatic probably did already) i must say that i watched the first episode and was really stumped. the first episode was so confusing i don't understand how this anime could get such high ratings. however, when i checked the episode guide on the internet, i found out that i had watched an episode called, "Mikuru Asahina's Adventure" and it was actually sort of like an episode 0 that doesn't really have anything to do with the story.
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"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
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"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
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"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
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- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
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jon_jinn - Posts: 3261
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jon_jinn wrote:well, to get a little off-subject and sort of end this argument (although Mangafanatic probably did already) i must say that i watched the first episode and was really stumped. the first episode was so confusing i don't understand how this anime could get such high ratings. however, when i checked the episode guide on the internet, i found out that i had watched an episode called, "Mikuru Asahina's Adventure" and it was actually sort of like an episode 0 that doesn't really have anything to do with the story.
You're correct. That episode wasn't EXACTLY a read episode. It has some foreshadowing, but you can understand the series without it.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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