PluggedIn Doesn't Like Anime...

[ChristianKitsune]

I personally think Ryan, that your letter...was a bit...harsh? It wasn't bad..and you ahve your views..and you made excellent points..and I agree with you, but you gotta remember..these guys don't know anime that well..let's not come off as jerks and become as well known as the "Spongebob" thing. *shiver*

I agree with Kae..they are still our bros and sisters in christ, not to mention our elders...maybe they are stronger in Christ too? I dunno... I am not saying to not write letters...but let's be tactful about it..we aren't out to flame them... PI has helped me steer away from many movies..

Sorry...Ryan, it's a good letter...just maybe strong..

[Keely]

they are still our bros and sisters in christ

Exactly! No reason to be rude just b/c the see things differently than us, we are simply trying to correct a misunderstanding and try to work TOGETHER to further the Kingdom.

FYI: I will be out of town for the next week.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I personally think Ryan, that your letter...was a bit...harsh? It wasn't bad..and you ahve your views..and you made excellent points..and I agree with you, but you gotta remember..these guys don't know anime that well..let's not come off as jerks and become as well known as the "Spongebob" thing. *shiver*

I agree with Kae..they are still our bros and sisters in christ, not to mention our elders...maybe they are stronger in Christ too? I dunno... I am not saying to not write letters...but let's be tactful about it..we aren't out to flame them... PI has helped me steer away from many movies..

Sorry...Ryan, it's a good letter...just maybe strong..

Oh really? How so? I doesn't really seem too harsh in my perspective.

[Nate]

Is David Cunningham the guy who directed "The Exorcism of Emily Rose"??

No, that would be Scott Derrickson. David Cunningham's big movie appears to be "To End All Wars," as nothing else I see listed in his directing experience is familiar to me.

[Arnobius]

Oh really? How so? I doesn't really seem too harsh in my perspective.

I didn't see it as harsh. The only thing that might have been a problem was the phrase "open-minded" since it has the unfortunate connotation frequently that "anyone who doesn't agree with me is not open-minded" and they might misinterpret the use of the term as indirectly calling them "narrow-minded"

Of course I doubt you intended any such meaning. Other than the possible misinterpretation over that, I thought the letter seemed quite polite.

[ChristianKitsune]

as I said, Ryan, It' wasn't overkill harsh..meh..I was tired..when I wrote..that...^^; reading it now..it doesn't seem so bad...

[Bobtheduck]

No, that would be Scott Derrickson. David Cunningham's big movie appears to be "To End All Wars," as nothing else I see listed in his directing experience is familiar to me.

He also did the award winning new "Little House on the Prairie" for disney. His first movie (that wasn't a documentary, since that's what he started with) was "Beyond Paradise" a fictionalization of his experiences growing up as a white kid (haole) in Hawaii, and it was incredibly popular... in hawaii... Almost unknown mainland. Rebels... Well, it seems to have been made, but never got a wide release...

[Shao Feng-Li]

Hmm, just why is the article a big deal?

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Thank you, Ryan, for writing to Plugged In.

We appreciate they time you have taken to share with us your concerns about our article on anime. We’re certain our editors will be interested in your remarks and the interview transcripts you sent, and with that in mind we will be happy to forward your message to their attention. We assure you it will receive a careful reading. After all, feedback like yours serves to enhance the quality and relevance of our publications, and to that end we're thankful for your input.

In the meantime, be assured that the Web sites you mentioned in your message, ChristianAnime.net and AnimeAngels.net, were both mentioned in our article.

Again, thanks for getting in touch. If we can be of assistance in the future, please let us know. May God richly bless you in the days ahead.

Feels... so... so TEMPLATEY! So AUTOMATED! They are all sort of identical... but mine mentioned the interview transcript.

I hope our letters did something productive

[ChristianKitsune]

it could be a "Whoops factor"

they know they have angered some fans...they are probably thinking. "AHH NOT SPONGE BOB AGAIN!!!"

[Radical Dreamer]

Feels... so... so TEMPLATEY! So AUTOMATED! They are all sort of identical... but mine mentioned the interview transcript.

I hope our letters did something productive

ROFL, Oh my gosh, my reply was EXACTLY the same. XD I just didn't post the whole thing, just the body. That's what the rest of mine said, though.

Oh, well. XD;

[ChristianKitsune]

O_o musta copy and pasted....

[uc pseudonym]

Hmm, just why is the article a big deal?

Ask everyone here that and you'll get different answers from every one. Generally speaking, some people feel that the article misrepresents anime and they either find this personally offensive (as one of their hobbies is being indirectly condemned) or they feel it could be harmful (in that uninformed readers will get the wrong idea).

[Bobtheduck]

Ask everyone here that and you'll get different answers from every one. Generally speaking, some people feel that the article misrepresents anime and they either find this personally offensive (as one of their hobbies is being indirectly condemned) or they feel it could be harmful (in that uninformed readers will get the wrong idea).

Wouldn't be so much of a problem if FotF wasn't such an influencial organization... EDIT One with a lot of good things under their belt giving what they say more moral authority END EDIT To take part in something they so heavily condemn, like it's an attack on Children, is painting a target sign on our butts in the Christian community...

[mechana2015]

Wouldn't be so much of a problem if FotF wasn't such an influencial organization... To take part in something they so heavily condemn, like it's an attack on Children, is painting a target sign on our butts in the Christian community...

I think Bob just hit the nail on the head as to one of the reasons why the article is a big deal... I wouldn't have quite said it that way though .

The other issue, Shao, is (if you read the thread starting post) that they blatently misrepresented an entity in the article, and more importantly misrepresented another christian group to other christians. (a big problem as Plugged In is a very influintial Christian media outlet)

[termyt]

Hmm, just why is the article a big deal?

[quote="termyt earlier in this thread"]I agree with Cap'n Nick that the article didn't lie, per se. There are dangers in anime (that should be well known at this point since anime’s been mainstream for several years now) and parents must be aware that not all cartoons are kid-safe simply because they are animated.

However, by printing that anime is full of these pitfalls and not expressing any other viewpoint, you are basically implying that all anime is full of these pitfalls.

What they printed may not be false, but it isn’t ethical, either. I personally would like to see “Christianâ€

[Heart of Sword]

The issue is...

Nowhere in the Bible does it say, "if something is unsuitable for small children, don't do it." I think that's where FotF can go wrong. Yes, their motives are right, and I think as a whole they're a good organization, though.

[ChristianKitsune]

The issue is...

Nowhere in the Bible does it say, "if something is unsuitable for small children, don't do it." I think that's where FotF can go wrong. Yes, their motives are right, and I think as a whole they're a good organization, though.

this is true and yet the bible does say in Philipians 4:8 That we need to focus on Godly things and not worldly things:

Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

I think all of us can admit that most anime doesn't fall in this category, and it should be watched with a grain of salt. It's easy to backslide if you are watching anime that isn't the cleanest...I think that the anime that PluggedIN reviewed falls under the ungodly category.

[Keely]

I still find it odd that I haven't gotten even the automated response from them...

...and I don't remember CAA being mentioned in that article, and I read it several times. Not to mention that AA was misrepresented in the article and that is the actual problem that I have with the article...

[MasterDias]

...and I don't remember CAA being mentioned in that article, and I read it several times.

Near the end of the article:
"In response to that interest, Christian alternatives have begun appearing. Christian Anime Alliance (christiananime.net) and animeangels.net offer online analysis and commentary from a biblical perspective."

[Shao Feng-Li]

I see. I hadn't thought about the influence of FoTF...

I think all of us can admit that most anime doesn't fall in this category, and it should be watched with a grain of salt. It's easy to backslide if you are watching anime that isn't the cleanest...I think that the anime that PluggedIN reviewed falls under the ungodly category.

But the same is ture for anything. American TV is really no better it seems.

[Radical Dreamer]

But the same is ture for anything. American TV is really no better it seems.

Agreed. With some of the junk they show on TV today, I'm surprised there isn't more of a frenzy over that. I mean, some of the commercials shown on TV are worse than some anime, and that's something to be aware of.

[Heart of Sword]

this is true and yet the bible does say in Philipians 4:8 That we need to focus on Godly things and not worldly things:

Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

I think all of us can admit that most anime doesn't fall in this category, and it should be watched with a grain of salt. It's easy to backslide if you are watching anime that isn't the cleanest...I think that the anime that PluggedIN reviewed falls under the ungodly category.

Right, but anime deals with a lot of things that might not necessarily be dirty/evil, but that little kids shouldn't be exposed to. Such as war.

[Keely]

Near the end of the article:
"In response to that interest, Christian alternatives have begun appearing. Christian Anime Alliance (christiananime.net) and animeangels.net offer online analysis and commentary from a biblical perspective."

Funny how that sentence wasn't there before...did anyone else notice that, at all prior to this thread being made? I think that was a recent add-on to the online article...

[Rocketshipper]

no the line about the CAA was there before, at least in the printed article. It's how I found this forum in the first place ^^

[termyt]

Funny how that sentence wasn't there before...did anyone else notice that, at all prior to this thread being made? I think that was a recent add-on to the online article...

I've seen a couple of different versions of the article. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the edit you read first.

[Keely]

I've seen a couple of different versions of the article. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned in the edit you read first.

Yeah, I know I didn't see that, must've been a different version. It's really strange that they'd create more than one version, but it's not the first I've heard regarding this article.

Still waiting on a response for me...

[Bobtheduck]

Yeah, this is, like, the third or fourth revision of their blanket statement on anime (at least it's using modern anime, and not Project A-ko and Ghost in the Shell)

[Arnobius]

Maybe they dust off the old article and update it. I remember some of those quotes from previous times it was posted

[ChristianKitsune]

I read that article last spring and it talked about CAA and AA that's how I found this place.
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Yes I know that American TV is just as bad or worse.. But I think the kicker is that anime is Animated. Kids see Animation and they go "TOOOOOOOONS!" and grab it...

And if kids have irresponsible parents that allow them to view anime intended for teens that's the parent's fault..as it is the parents' fault that allows kids to watch adult shows on network television.

That's all I was trying to say...