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When anime reach to the point of Manga what should anime do?

Postby Yahshua » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:45 am

When an anime series reach to the point of Manga series what should the anime series do? Should it create fillers episodes or stop making the anime series until more manga series coming out then make it again?
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Postby skyblue » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:00 pm

Filler episodes may be a good distraction, but they usually make the anime look bad.
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Postby Myoti » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:09 pm

Explode.






















Or just wait till the manga moves on. Whatever.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:49 pm

I said filler episodes, but when I say that, I mean quality filler episodes. Something that's interesting and will grab my attention, not cheap, pointless episodes. Then again, that's only in some cases. In other cases, the anime should stop and wait for the manga to continue.
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Postby Arnobius » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:26 pm

Well Love Hina is a good example of what happens when the anime passes the manga... look at how little the anime resembled the series. Chobits was another... I'd prefer if a series just planned itself to fit in with what was published and not go off on other tangents.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:29 pm

Not filler episodes, unless the original creator has a storyline they want to add or an expansion of some sort.

Otherwise, I think they should begin showing the anime again from the beginning. By the time they reached the point where they had stopped earlier, the manga would have moved on and they would have material for new episodes. Furthermore, they could spend more time on those new episodes to make sure they were high quality.
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Postby Rocketshipper » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:28 pm

I'm not really sure. I think the best thing for producers to do would just be to plan the series around the manga to begin with so they don't run into that problem. I've seen anime series where I greatly enjoyed the "filler" that was added to extend the story (Cardcaptor Sakura, Yugioh) but others where the filler just got incredibly annoying (Chobits). The thing I'd be most worried about is if the creators tried to cram a lengthy manga series into a short anime series, or if they come up with some random contrived ending for the anime because they don't want to extend it so the manga can end. (Kare Kano anyone??)

I think what the Tsubasa anime people are doing is good. Schedule the show for 3 seasons, with 6 months between each one, so CLAMP has plenty of time to stay ahead and finish before the anime is done.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:44 pm

I agree with Radical Dreamer.I think fillers are a good idea as long as they are well done.Plus you have to give the manga-ka a chance to catch their creative breath before going on with the series.Sometimes a break is needed in the manga because the creator is running out of ideas and so using filler material in the anime may give them a chance to recover their creative surge.
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Postby BrandonHeat » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:41 pm

I think that if there's filler (and this includes movies that deviate from the main plot), it should cover some aspect that the manga hadn't really touched before. For example, Inuyasha: Swords of an Honorable Ruler (movie 3) dealt with some things involving Inuyasha's father and more of Sesshomaru's past, an area that the rest of the series didn't do a whole lot with.

It is quite possible to have filler (such as Samurai Champloo, which barely had anything resembling a story), or even depart from the manga's story completely (see FMA), and still come up with something good. The important thing is that the quality doesn't drop.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:34 pm

Depends. Some filler is quite entertaining and good. And could possibly end up canon (Like Bleach)

Others clearly bomb. Like Naruto
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:52 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Otherwise, I think they should begin showing the anime again from the beginning. By the time they reached the point where they had stopped earlier, the manga would have moved on and they would have material for new episodes. Furthermore, they could spend more time on those new episodes to make sure they were high quality.


Sounds like a good idea... I know we do it here often but in Japan it just seems like the show runs ONCE, gets taken off the air so another anime can be seen in the spotlight, and then can only be seen on DVD :/



Rocketshipper wrote:I think what the Tsubasa anime people are doing is good. Schedule the show for 3 seasons, with 6 months between each one, so CLAMP has plenty of time to stay ahead and finish before the anime is done.


Yeah they've been doing good with that! They did have ONE filler ep through the whole first season... not sure why... but it wasn't really taking away from the story or anything too much :/ (They can't, really in a sense^^)
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Postby MasterDias » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:06 pm

Tenshi no Ai wrote:Sounds like a good idea... I know we do it here often but in Japan it just seems like the show runs ONCE, gets taken off the air so another anime can be seen in the spotlight, and then can only be seen on DVD

That's basically how it is it Japan. Occasionally, something really popular(Ex:Dragonball) will get run multiple times, but those aren't very common.
So if you miss episodes and don't want to buy the DVDs, you have a problem.

Quite different from the U.S.
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Postby rocklobster » Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:49 am

I think an anime should not be done on a manga until the manga is at least 3/4 of the way done. They should also keep a good relationship with the manga-ka so they know what to do when they get to this point.
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Postby Sennin » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:26 am

They should make a filler episode. However, it's best not to have these appearing too soon in the series. Fillers are usually best when the animators have a better understanding of the characters.
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Postby MorwenLaicoriel » Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:11 am

Idealy, the anime should wait until there's plenty of material to go on, but if there's a huge amount of interest in a manga series and you want to capitalize on it...I think what Fullmetal Alchemist did sets a good example for other anime series. They didn't throw in needless filler episodes--they took the anime in a new direction. Of course, the anime and the manga are now pretty different, but I actually prefer that because no matter how you start the series, when you cross over into the other medium the story feel instantly FRESH again. It's fun to see how the different universes of stories have developed...and while FMA did struggle with plot holes after they branched off on their own, with careful planning ahead of time I think it could be done in a way that still respects the original manga, but doesn't use it as a crutch.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:34 pm

Brandon Heat wrote:It is quite possible to have filler (such as Samurai Champloo, which barely had anything resembling a story), or even depart from the manga's story completely (see FMA), and still come up with something good. The important thing is that the quality doesn't drop.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Samurai Champloo. But I have to say that the series "filler" was terrible. It was an anime originally, so everything was in its original form, but the two episodes prior to the final 3-part... terrible. The baseball one was weak and the zombie one simply trippy (and pointless).

Master Dias wrote:That's basically how it is it Japan. Occasionally, something really popular(Ex:Dragonball) will get run multiple times, but those aren't very common.
So if you miss episodes and don't want to buy the DVDs, you have a problem.

Quite different from the U.S.

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Postby Silent Hunter » Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:44 pm

I say wait a little while and show old eps again. that's what they seem to do often.

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Postby BrandonHeat » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:44 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Samurai Champloo. But I have to say that the series "filler" was terrible. It was an anime originally, so everything was in its original form, but the two episodes prior to the final 3-part... terrible. The baseball one was weak and the zombie one simply trippy (and pointless).


The one I actually had in mind originally was Cowboy Bebop, but Champloo works better because of Bebop's one flaw: the story was too good. They spent all this time on eps that weren't about anything that had a point to it, but the ones that did were so much more awesome (to this day, Ballad of Fallen Angels is still my favorite anime ep ever), and it would've been better to see the actual story played out more.
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Postby Linksquest » Tue May 23, 2006 6:23 pm

Sometimes I think it would just be better if companies would wait for the manga to become complete before starting an anime. That really makes sense if you think about it. How many times do you see movies based on book series become created before a series is complete... welll there's Series of Unfortunate Events and Harry Potter and... OK THEN! Well it makes more sense, to me anyway, because filler episodes are just that: filler... though they can be done artistically or well... they are still distractions from the main plot.

my vote: wait till the manga is done.
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Postby jon_jinn » Wed May 24, 2006 5:52 pm

i think the series should stop for a while and wait for more of the manga to come out.
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Postby BrandonHeat » Mon May 29, 2006 9:45 am

Linksquest wrote:my vote: wait till the manga is done.


I'm not sure that would always work, though. I mean, look @ series like Naruto & InuYasha: both are @ least 150 eps, & the manga still isn't complete! I think that it varies depending on the length of the manga.
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Postby Linksquest » Mon May 29, 2006 9:47 am

BrandonHeat wrote:I'm not sure that would always work, though. I mean, look @ series like Naruto & InuYasha: both are @ least 150 eps, & the manga still isn't complete! I think that it varies depending on the length of the manga.


They could still play repeat episodes. I would rather see the "good episodes" again than watch bad filler episodes.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Mon May 29, 2006 10:33 am

Yahshua wrote:When an anime series reach to the point of Manga series what should the anime series do? Should it create fillers episodes or stop making the anime series until more manga series coming out then make it again?


It should wait, but they rarely do. The worst part of Sailormoon was the "doom tree" arc, in my opinion... (though SuperS gives it a run for its money being so much LONGER than Doom Tree...) partly because it was Toei coming up with a story on its own... It had NOTHING to do with anything Naoko had made, because I heard she wasn't finished with the R manga yet when they started making them...
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