Hi...

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Bad things happen to people. Thats no doubt. But if only good things happened, how would we know who is being faithful to God or not? Only the faithful people hold on during the bad times. Thats why there are bad events.

[Kawaiikneko]

While MSP's point is VERY important when it comes to marriage, because as much as we love our spouse, God should come first...

I'm interested in Jon's story. I know of the cartoon btw. Please continue.

[Jon Clement]

Well, you know who Mira Nova is, then, right?

[Kawaiikneko]

basic idea, yes.

[Jon Clement]

Well, just to refresh everyone, she was the blue skinned princess and Heir of the planet of Tangea. <snipped link> to learn more about her.

Anyway, sometime between '01 and '02, I developed this strange infatuation with her. I thought it was love as I had her on my mind all the time. I REALLY REALLY liked her. But I always kept it a deep and dark secret from my grandma because I knew that her teasing would be endless and relentless... At the time, I had gotten this obsession about girls who wore revealing clothing that showed their stomachs. I did NOT like this and on a few message boards, I would rant and rant and rant non-stop. The thought made me very angry. I got flamed, called sexist, a whole multitude of woes. But Mira was different... She never wore any of that bimbo stuff... Always dressed like a "lady" as I put it. It was realyl sensitive onthe issue. Body peircings, esspeically belly button peircings always got me angry as well... I always got really depressed when I got flamed and almost everyone on the forum hated me. There were a few people who stood by me. I really appriciated their loyalty... I also ranted on the forums about how much I "loved" Mira Nova... People would often make fun of me, sometimes typing in about doing... things... to her... It made me mad and I would often go into my usuall berserk rage with my D&D style ALLCAPS attacks. I would often do this in political debates and people would think me really imature for it... Sometimes, people would say "Mira Nova? The porn star?" and it got me mad as usual...

(The following may violate the rules so if you must censor it, don't delete it, jsut edit it. It tooks me a long time to type this up.)

Then one day, in 2003... IT happened... I was doing my routine google search for "Mira Nova". I came to this message board saying "Does anyone know where I can find pictures of Mira Nova in errotic poses?" And I thought "You pervert! Mira Nova would never do that!"... Would she? I searched on google for "Mira Nova Nude". After skipping over a few unimportant links, I finnally came to this one. The discription I saw of the link made me cringe... I cautiously clicked on it... Sheilding my eyes from all the disney hentai, I scolled down and... No... It couldn't be... All I saw was a blue leg with a boot on it... "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" I thought... I went into the bedroom saying "They're torturing me!!"... "Okay, calm down, maybe that was another blue leg!" I went back... Nope... There was her face, clear as day... The expression of her face burned into my memory forever... It was over... But I didn't feel as depressed as I thought I would... I actually felt glad I saw it because now, I could concentrate on my quest to get a real girl... So, I forgot about girls for a while... Now, I was still obsessed with her, but this time, hate, rather than love... I didn't even really hate her, I just kept mocking her, really...

Anyway, she slowly faded out of my attention... Went on with life for a while... Then, I started gaining interest in anime... Anime girls started to look very beautiful to me... And in the winter, my grandma driving me home through the snow, it felt peaceful and would be ncie to share it with a girl... So much so, that I went on the forums and made a character. "Just married"... Though, some guy got on and started talking about sex... I pretended to be grossed out, but was actually rather curious... Though, I still beleived that when it came down to it, I would be much too shy to have sex... And so it remained for a while... Later on, I had gotten a few big crushes on anime girls while I was 14... Fuu from Magic Knight Rayearth, Shampoo and Ukyo from Ranma 1/2... It wasn't a big obsession like that with Mira Nova...

During this time, I started going insane about no sex in heaven. I was a young man and wanted to feel close to someone, but was still a little shy when it came right down to it... Anyway, nothing changed for a few months... Then, when I was 15, I watched the actual manga of Ranma 1/2 rather than just the video game on SNES. Then, I downloaded the seiries and watched it... This is when I started thinking that I really would love romance...

Then, last october, after coming home from a trip on the greyhound, Grandpa got violent at the bus depo and when we got home, he started hitting her around, accusing her of infidelity. I called the police and he was in jail all night. Then, a month after that, the most powerful thing that had ever happened in my whole life took place... It was divided into 2 nights... The first night was nothing really special. I was chatting with my friend on MSN, a real Ranma 1/2 fan... And he showed my this fanfic of Ranma... Being a 15 year old, I was the most curious yet... He said it contained duggestive scenes... This caught my attention and I started to read... I read the first 2 chapters... Nothing special, but it did seem nice the way Ranma finnaly had it and left to find his own appartment... The way he and Akane finnaly admitted to eachother that they lvoed eachother... And esspecially the way Dr.Tofu Proposed to Kasumi... I stopped reading and went to bed with warm thoughts in my heart... But then, the next night, my life changed forever... chapter 3 was long... Very long... and it was getting bedtime so I hurried with the reading... But as I got to about the middle, I slooooooowed down... NOW it was getting really interesting. I'm not going to go into detail here, but it started to get pretty steamy... Just a little at first... But then it escalated and... Never in my life was I filled with so much desire and passion... My blood was boiling and I was overflowing with energy and power... I felt so strong and happy... And for a week, I felt invincible! MAN, what a week that was... it was great... I even had an errotic dream as a result... Well, the high went down and started getting slightly depressed again...

Then, about 7 weeks ago, I started going to the LDS church because of their believe in eternal marriage... I went up there hoping that I would find a girl who would want to spend all eternity with me... But... The girls there wern't very attractive... There was this ONE there that was pretty cute singing in the choir... So, I tried talking to her... I asked her if she liked anime... She didn't know what it was and I explained and didn't ever watch any... Infact, I had founded "LDS anime". (http://ldsanime.proboards53.com if you want to check it out)... I had handed out slips with the address on it... But not a SINGLE PERSON from that church ever posted anything. A few mormons from an LDS forum posted but that's about it... So, I kept gonig up to the LDS church... But every time I went up there, I felt a huge drain on my energy and my happiness... Every week, I felt more depressed than the last... Then, I found out that girls up there wern't very interested in guys who didn't go on missions... And I didn't want to go on one... I had found one girls I really DID love, though... She wasn't a mormon, though, and she lived on the opposite side of the continent... But she shared all my interests and morals and believes... And and I asked her if she wanted to meet sometime and she said sure, she'd like that... But then about a week later, she said it probably wouldn't be a good idea... Her mom watched oprah... That episode about internet stalkers... And so, I felt my very first heartbreak... She DID already have a boyfriend, though, but... it hurt when I realized that she wouldn't be the one I would marry... I REALLY wanted her... But I soon got over her... Later than night, I snapped... I wanted to see yuri for some strange reason... And I ended up seeing a couple clips of it... And then it moved on to straight hentai... But... It didn't really arouse me, though... Rather, it was almost hypnotic... And now, I've started reconcidering becoming a mormon. I feel torn between 2 worlds... And this is where I am today...

<Mod note: I snipped that link you had up there, Jon, because some of the images on the site broke CAA image posting rules. Please refer to those rules before posting links to images in the future.>

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Dude. All I can say is, youre totally not alone. I have gone through pretty much the same you have gone through. Infact I still am going through. You're not alone. Never forget that. Nearly 99.9% of the males here are going through the same in some sort of way or another.

[Kawaiikneko]

Wow man that sounds rough... I'll pray for you!

I have a question though. Where in the bible does it say anything about being married or not being married in heaven.

[FadedOne]

Wow man that sounds rough... I'll pray for you!

I have a question though. Where in the bible does it say anything about being married or not being married in heaven.

Luke 20:34-38. Matthew 22:30, Mark 12:25 (basically the same thing)

http://www.jesuswalk.com/lessons/20_27-44.htm
(this link looks helpful)

[Kawaiikneko]

oh ok! Thanks FadedOne

[Mangafanatic]

Well, it's not that I AM sterile... But then there are people who ARE... And I really can't stand to think that they will never know the joy of having a family.

But if it came to the point that I really could never have children, I'd probably adopt... But the thing is, I really want to see children of my very own. I want to see what my DNA looks like passed down to another generation... Still, I think it's only fair that people who really wanted their own children and never got them get some in heaven...

But, gosh, I'd hate to be a kid in heaven. God is the only one everyone else is accountable, and here I've got to do what my parents want to. That seems kind of unfair to the kid.

And concerning adoption, I cannot even begin to explain how much you can start to love children, regardless of whose they are genetically. I've been on a missions trip where I worked with 20 kids in a poor Haitian village, and I can't tell you how heartbursting the love I felt for those children was. Infact, had I been married at the time when I took the trip, I probably would have legalyl pursued adopting two of the chidlren. Also, a family in our church just adopted the most GOREGOUS Chinese baby you've ever seen, and on Mother's Day last year-- the mom of the family started crying when she was talking about the woman who gave birth to the little girl who was now her baby. That's how much she loved his child and appreciated the woman who gave birth to her. Adopted children are just as precious as biological ones. Infact, I plan to adopt before I even have biological children.

And really, I wouldn't worry about you or your wife being sterile. God will provide what is best for you. Just trust in that.

[Firefly-]

Wow, you are going through a rough and confusing time aren't you?
I know how you feel. You want to be married forever not just only on earth but, in heaven as well. But, remember this. There is no such thing as sorrow in heaven. That means whatever god has in store for you in heaven you will ALWAYS be happy there.

I am still struggling with questions about god and heaven though they are not like yours they are still things that you can solve by trusting in god.

[Jon Clement]

Wow, you are going through a rough and confusing time aren't you?

Ya... I've got issues...

[Destroyer2000]

Dude, the teenage years are somewhat like this with your emotions: ^-_-^-^___^ Up and down, over and over.

[Tenshi no Ai]

Ya... I've got issues...

Well, we all go through tough times at one point or another in our lives :/ I know I'm going through a bit of one as well too :/

(BTW Welcome to the boards^^ And where abouts do you live in BC? Not everyday someone on here is new and comes from the same province^^)

[Jon Clement]

I live in creston. Home of the columbia brewery...

[Tenshi no Ai]

I live in creston. Home of the columbia brewery...

Creston... Creston... *looks up* ohhh in the Kootneys. I'm from way over on the island^^

[Jon Clement]

Oh, yes... "The island!":drool: