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Well, here I go... I know my registering on this forum is going to probably lead to my suicide or my doing something that I'll really regret (No offence intended)... But here I go... Here I go about to have my hopes and dreams of having a family in heavne shattered into a 1000 shards...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Hey Jon, what's up? I know there are times in our life, where we feel like we can't get passed the things that happen to us, and sometimes we even imagine that suicide will help (I'm patronizing you here, I've thought about suicide myself), but what always has helped me, is to look for something that you can hold onto. Something true. It doesn't have to be good, or make you happy, it just has to be something that you KNOW is true, that can keep you sane, and you'll get through these times... Wow, that was my insight for the day...
Stay safe man, I'll be praying for you.
Marty
Stay safe man, I'll be praying for you.
Marty
--To Write Love on Her Arms
"That time and absence proves - Rather helps than hurts to love."
"Feelings, emotions, they are good, but they cannot be Love's foundation. When of Love, these things last. When of romance, these things end."
"Love has nothing to do with what you are expecting to get, it's what you are expected to give -- which is everything."
"That time and absence proves - Rather helps than hurts to love."
"Feelings, emotions, they are good, but they cannot be Love's foundation. When of Love, these things last. When of romance, these things end."
"Love has nothing to do with what you are expecting to get, it's what you are expected to give -- which is everything."
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The thing is, people (I'm sorry to say this, but it's actually CHRISTIANS who are doing this) are saying that the one and only thing in life that I truly care about won't be in heaven...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Ahh sensitive issue...
What are they saying?
The thing is, The only way to heaven IS through Jesus Christ. I won't give you false hope there...
But te beautyof it all is that GOD LOVES YOU. He gave His son for you, The Perfect Sacrifice.
I am gonna use some famous Bible Verses here.
Starting With John 3:16-18
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
we are God's Creation. He loves us, and he wants us to be with him forever! I am not sure if your family/friends have accepted Christ. But it's not to late for you!
No matter where your family is right now, God didn't want them to suffer, please know that. However, I will not sell you wolf tickets and say that if they didn't accept Christ..then they are where you want them to be.
This next verse explains this.
Romans 3:23-24
23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Accepting Jesus Christ, the man who lived the only perfect life, (Free of Sin, because he was God's Son) died for US. Even if you were the only person in the world, he would still die for you! Because that is how much he loved and cared.
Romans 6:23
23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.
It's a gift! We as humans have the option of either accepting it, or rejecting it.
Think of it as Someone who really really cares for you. And he wants you to have something that is TOTALLY awesome TOTALLY amazing. The best GIFT EVER! And He wanted you to have it, because he loves you and he wants you to love him back.
So he shows up at your door, rings your bell/or knocks. and you answer. He smiles and offers you (INSERT AWESOME GIFT) and you shake your head and say "NAH, I wanna play some more video games. (or whatever).
You slam the door in his face...and the man looks down sadly and tries again...and again...and AGAIN to get you to answer...to accept...but again and again and again...you slam the door in his face...
That Hurts God...When you don't show that you want him...He loves all of us..and just wants to be there for us, All he asks in return is our life. Our devotion, and our love.
But he gave us a choice, because we aren't puppets on a string, because we aren't toys. He created us to love us, and for us to truly love him, he gave us free will. Some chooose to follow him, some choose to leave him standing on the door.
What will you choose? (you don't have to answer here).
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Ok, moving on to your feelings right now..
So you say you wanna kill yourself? Ask yourself why...whatever your problems are...are they worth taking your life for? Stop and think, how will this affect your family? Your Friends?
And how will it make God feel? He gave you this life for a reason. He made you, created you, and to see anyone just throw it all away...not only breaks His heart, but your family, your friends...as well..
What if you gave your problems to God RIGHT now? He will listen...believe me, he is always there...never will he leave you, or forsake you.. He knows what he is doing in your life...
I will pray for you, Jon, but don't let these two gifts, Salvation (Accepting Christ) and your own life...slip away.
-IN CHRIST!
CHRISTIAN RONIN
What are they saying?
The thing is, The only way to heaven IS through Jesus Christ. I won't give you false hope there...
But te beautyof it all is that GOD LOVES YOU. He gave His son for you, The Perfect Sacrifice.
I am gonna use some famous Bible Verses here.
Starting With John 3:16-18
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
we are God's Creation. He loves us, and he wants us to be with him forever! I am not sure if your family/friends have accepted Christ. But it's not to late for you!
No matter where your family is right now, God didn't want them to suffer, please know that. However, I will not sell you wolf tickets and say that if they didn't accept Christ..then they are where you want them to be.
This next verse explains this.
Romans 3:23-24
23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Accepting Jesus Christ, the man who lived the only perfect life, (Free of Sin, because he was God's Son) died for US. Even if you were the only person in the world, he would still die for you! Because that is how much he loved and cared.
Romans 6:23
23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.
It's a gift! We as humans have the option of either accepting it, or rejecting it.
Think of it as Someone who really really cares for you. And he wants you to have something that is TOTALLY awesome TOTALLY amazing. The best GIFT EVER! And He wanted you to have it, because he loves you and he wants you to love him back.
So he shows up at your door, rings your bell/or knocks. and you answer. He smiles and offers you (INSERT AWESOME GIFT) and you shake your head and say "NAH, I wanna play some more video games. (or whatever).
You slam the door in his face...and the man looks down sadly and tries again...and again...and AGAIN to get you to answer...to accept...but again and again and again...you slam the door in his face...
That Hurts God...When you don't show that you want him...He loves all of us..and just wants to be there for us, All he asks in return is our life. Our devotion, and our love.
But he gave us a choice, because we aren't puppets on a string, because we aren't toys. He created us to love us, and for us to truly love him, he gave us free will. Some chooose to follow him, some choose to leave him standing on the door.
What will you choose? (you don't have to answer here).
~~
Ok, moving on to your feelings right now..
So you say you wanna kill yourself? Ask yourself why...whatever your problems are...are they worth taking your life for? Stop and think, how will this affect your family? Your Friends?
And how will it make God feel? He gave you this life for a reason. He made you, created you, and to see anyone just throw it all away...not only breaks His heart, but your family, your friends...as well..
What if you gave your problems to God RIGHT now? He will listen...believe me, he is always there...never will he leave you, or forsake you.. He knows what he is doing in your life...
I will pray for you, Jon, but don't let these two gifts, Salvation (Accepting Christ) and your own life...slip away.
-IN CHRIST!
CHRISTIAN RONIN
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ChristianKitsune - Posts: 5420
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Ya, I believe Jesus died for us and all that... However, I DON'T believe that they're tortured for all eternity. I believe that they just die. Because, Romans 6:23 says that the wages of sin is death. Not eternal torture. I believe what the bible says. Same with the ever famous John 3:16. It says that eternal life is contrasted to dying. Not being tortured forever. And the "Lake of fire and brimstone" is how they die the second time... I don't wnat to start a debate about it because if I do IT will begin again...
As for my problem, I'll tell you, but I beg of you, DON'T TRY TO TELL ME IT'S NOT TRUE. I'm really upset because I'm sick of hearing that sterile people can never ever have their own children or people who die before they get the chance... The idea is putting me through hell... Infact, so is the idea of no romance in heaven (No, GOD's love is platonic love. Not romantic love) or even being genderless in heaven... It made me go insane for 2 years. I recovered for a while, but the other day, the person who made me go like that in the first palce returned... THIS TIME AROUND, I've actually turned into a trembling train-wreck...
Basicly, I want to commit suicide so I can finnaly get it over with...
As for my problem, I'll tell you, but I beg of you, DON'T TRY TO TELL ME IT'S NOT TRUE. I'm really upset because I'm sick of hearing that sterile people can never ever have their own children or people who die before they get the chance... The idea is putting me through hell... Infact, so is the idea of no romance in heaven (No, GOD's love is platonic love. Not romantic love) or even being genderless in heaven... It made me go insane for 2 years. I recovered for a while, but the other day, the person who made me go like that in the first palce returned... THIS TIME AROUND, I've actually turned into a trembling train-wreck...
Basicly, I want to commit suicide so I can finnaly get it over with...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Sterile people never having children? Can you clarify that for me?
The thing is, I believe in Miracles, My Pastor's wife is a testament that shows they do happen.
She was told she could never have Children. She was "Sterile." But..God worked and Now she has two sons that are older than me.
I will not deny that there will no romance in Heaven. However, There really won't be a need for it... All our love will dedicated to God. We will still know them however, it just won't be on a romantic basis...
Jon, I beg you, to not take your life. I know I don't know you in real life. But I will tell you that GOD DOES CARE. I CARE. Taking your life is not the answer!
Give all your concerns to God. Tell him how you feel, he is a BIG God he can take it.
You are upset right now, that is obvious. But whatever your problem is, don't take your life! Live on, don't give up!!!
Turn towards God, let him be your support. He wants to be that for you.
The thing is, I believe in Miracles, My Pastor's wife is a testament that shows they do happen.
She was told she could never have Children. She was "Sterile." But..God worked and Now she has two sons that are older than me.
I will not deny that there will no romance in Heaven. However, There really won't be a need for it... All our love will dedicated to God. We will still know them however, it just won't be on a romantic basis...
Jon, I beg you, to not take your life. I know I don't know you in real life. But I will tell you that GOD DOES CARE. I CARE. Taking your life is not the answer!
Give all your concerns to God. Tell him how you feel, he is a BIG God he can take it.
You are upset right now, that is obvious. But whatever your problem is, don't take your life! Live on, don't give up!!!
Turn towards God, let him be your support. He wants to be that for you.
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Augh... At this rate, I don't even think suicide will be neccesarry, as I will jsut die of bordom and dispair... I can't kill myself, anyway... I don't have the courage... But... Oh... I wish I could jsut live in a fantasy world of my own forever....
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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I don't quite get what you're saying, but maybe God's love will be sufficient for us in heaven... I mean, I've been let down by my friends and family alot, but the love of God is so much bigger and all-encompassing that all the romantic or familial love kinda pales in comparison...
What specifically are you depressed about? That there won't be any love between humans in heaven? Wouldn't we all love each other more since we'll be free from all sin's limitations?
I don't know very much, but I cling to the fact that God loves me... When I get depressed that's really all I can cling on to.
What specifically are you depressed about? That there won't be any love between humans in heaven? Wouldn't we all love each other more since we'll be free from all sin's limitations?
I don't know very much, but I cling to the fact that God loves me... When I get depressed that's really all I can cling on to.
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We're adam and eve free of sin before they ate that apple? Surely, God expected them to love eachother romanticly...
Basicly, I've seen so much romance anime, that I actually nausious at the thought of gonig for eternity without...
Basicly, I've seen so much romance anime, that I actually nausious at the thought of gonig for eternity without...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Man, 16 was a pretty lame age for me. Things really do perk up, though. Don't despair. I lived alot of my teenage years chasing after things I thought would make my "fantasy life" materialize-- and in the end, the little things in our lives that we think will make us happy really don't. I've gotten some of my little "This will make me happy items" and that emptiness you're feeling won't go away because of them. Whether you like the sound of it or not-- everybody's got a God shaped hole. Women, money, and fame can't fill it.
As a woman, I can relate completely to that desire to know the romantic love you see in anime. Unfortunately, anime/tv/ect shows the beautiful, idealistic, and beautiful love that is most certainly a PART of romantic attraction. However, what we don't see is the pain which very often drives people to complete misery. That's the thing about romance. It give you momentary highs, and momentary lows so low that I know people who've actually become physically sick because of them. There's the thing about God's love that make that love so much more incredible. He doesn't break you the way that romance, even successful romance, will break you.
What I've experienced of God's incredible love makes me realize that we have no idea how incredibly satisfying he is. He makes me who I am, and he allows me to be totally and completely happy as me. I don't have to be rich. I don't have to get married (I'd certainly like to, but, yeah). I don't have to be anything more than a person who's listening to what God wants me to do.
As a mod, I just wanted to say that we do allow members who aren't Christians to be members of our forum. However, we don't allow any member to prosyletize beliefs that violate those laid down in Scripture. Again, if you'll be happy to be here, talk about goofiness and life with us without insulting the things we believe in, we're MORE than happy to have you. But if you choose to insult who we are and what we believe (I'm not really sure what to do with your comments about your joining our forum will probably be the reason you'll commit suicide. . .), that won't be permitted.
I hope it doesn't come to that. I'd really like you to be here and enjoy the forum as much as I have. The staff will be watching the thread.
As a woman, I can relate completely to that desire to know the romantic love you see in anime. Unfortunately, anime/tv/ect shows the beautiful, idealistic, and beautiful love that is most certainly a PART of romantic attraction. However, what we don't see is the pain which very often drives people to complete misery. That's the thing about romance. It give you momentary highs, and momentary lows so low that I know people who've actually become physically sick because of them. There's the thing about God's love that make that love so much more incredible. He doesn't break you the way that romance, even successful romance, will break you.
What I've experienced of God's incredible love makes me realize that we have no idea how incredibly satisfying he is. He makes me who I am, and he allows me to be totally and completely happy as me. I don't have to be rich. I don't have to get married (I'd certainly like to, but, yeah). I don't have to be anything more than a person who's listening to what God wants me to do.
As a mod, I just wanted to say that we do allow members who aren't Christians to be members of our forum. However, we don't allow any member to prosyletize beliefs that violate those laid down in Scripture. Again, if you'll be happy to be here, talk about goofiness and life with us without insulting the things we believe in, we're MORE than happy to have you. But if you choose to insult who we are and what we believe (I'm not really sure what to do with your comments about your joining our forum will probably be the reason you'll commit suicide. . .), that won't be permitted.
I hope it doesn't come to that. I'd really like you to be here and enjoy the forum as much as I have. The staff will be watching the thread.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Jon Clement wrote:Augh... So weak...
I'm sorry Jon, but it seems to me like you keep asking for answers, and then criticizing and making fun of our members for taking the time to try to provide them for you. Now, believe me as a moderator here at this site, we're glad to have any new members who will civilly and pleasantly interact with the other members here. But we don't permit inflamatory behavior, so please for the future, consider your responses and try to be as uplifting as possible.
Now, from reading your posts, I'm still not entirely sure what it is that you're asking us. If you'd like good, honest, and satisfying answers to your questions, could you please clarify what exactly they are?
Thanks.
Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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Yumie - Posts: 1939
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I'm sorry if I seem rude or unkind... But I just feel so messed up... I feel as though I'll NEVER have a woman or children to love... No offence or anything but... I just don't think you can help... I'm about ready to pass out... However, it isn't just a single entity... There are other issues troubling me as well...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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That's rough man. I guess I kind of know how you feel (though I can't be sure because I'm obviously not you 
), but since I don't date I know how it feels to sometimes think that no one loves, or ever will love, me. Lame as it seems, all there really is to say is hang in there. Things won't get better right away, no matter how much we wish it would, but wait it out. Who knows what will happen? 
), but since I don't date I know how it feels to sometimes think that no one loves, or ever will love, me. Lame as it seems, all there really is to say is hang in there. Things won't get better right away, no matter how much we wish it would, but wait it out. Who knows what will happen? Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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Yumie - Posts: 1939
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I find myself wondering the same thing sometimes..
the thing I gotta remember is
God knows what he wants for my life, he knows who I will marry.
Jeremiah 29:11 states "For I know the plans I have you, Declares the Lord, Plans to prosper and not to harm you. Plans to give you a hope and a future."
Our time isn't God's time. And his time isn't ours.
You are only 16, so much life ahead of ya! Don't give up now!
the thing I gotta remember is
God knows what he wants for my life, he knows who I will marry.
Jeremiah 29:11 states "For I know the plans I have you, Declares the Lord, Plans to prosper and not to harm you. Plans to give you a hope and a future."
Our time isn't God's time. And his time isn't ours.
You are only 16, so much life ahead of ya! Don't give up now!
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ChristianKitsune - Posts: 5420
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Frankly, what I REALLY TRULY want is to be in love with a woman for ever. For her to always hold me and kiss me... And... you know... In marriage, of course... (Sorry if I violated the rules with that... I just need to let my feelings out) That, and the guarantee of having my very own children. Not adopted, but ones of my very own...
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Jon Clement wrote:I'm sorry if I seem rude or unkind... But I just feel so messed up... I feel as though I'll NEVER have a woman or children to love... No offence or anything but... I just don't think you can help... I'm about ready to pass out... However, it isn't just a single entity... There are other issues troubling me as well...
If you are indeed 16 as your age there indicates, then I would say that you should take heart in the fact that you have a great deal of your life ahead of you still. You don't know what is in your future. And at 16, you are still preparing for adult life. Most people don't marry someone whom they meet in high school (some do, but most will meet someone later in life).
At this point, with so much possibility and opportunity ahead, you can dedicate yourself to bettering your mind and your body, to learning skills and knowledge that you may use in your adult life later on. Life holds much for you, I am certain. Do not despair because you do not have everything yet. Instead cherish the journey towards your goals.
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"There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt." - Niccolo Machiavelli
"But even as Josue and Caleb declared that the Land of Promise was good and fair, and that the possession of it would be easy and pleasant; so the Holy Spirit, speaking by all the Saints, and our Blessed Lord Himself assure us that a devout life is a lovely, a pleasant, and a happy life." - from An Introduction to the Devout Life, by St. Francis de Sales
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Steeltemplar - Posts: 1373
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K, then, I'd say the best idea is to pray about it. I mean, we can give you answers until we're blue in the face (or. . . sore in the fingers, I suppose? ha ha) But, we have no real power to change anything. God's the only one who's capable of doing anything for you. The Bible says that if He takes care of the flowers and the birds, how much better will he take care of you? (Yumie paraphrase there 
) It hurts to trust Him sometimes, because we feel like we want to SEE something happen, to DO something NOW. But as the old hymn says, "Those who trust him wholly find him wholly true." I'll pray for ya!
) It hurts to trust Him sometimes, because we feel like we want to SEE something happen, to DO something NOW. But as the old hymn says, "Those who trust him wholly find him wholly true." I'll pray for ya!Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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Yumie - Posts: 1939
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I don't want to discount your feelings, but you are young, yes? Your feelings and wants and desires to have someone to love and care for and to have someone to love and care FOR you are valid...but you really do have your entire life ahead of you...and then some!
In anime, it's easy to watch the romance and desire what we see. It's so beautiful, almost always a happy ending, and when it's sad, at least it's painfully beautiful. Love, real love, doesn't always work that way. It's very, very hard work. Even love as God intended it to be is VERY hard work, and often, there is no happy or perfect ending.
This is very, very true. She speaks wisely, this one.
God did not create us to live our lives alone. But until the time is right, we must give our hearts to Him, let Him hold us when it hurts or when we're lonely. We were meant to have that desire for companionship...that doesn't make you weak. But have faith! It's hard, I know. But take the time to sit and think...how many people do you know who actually spend their entire lives alone? Compare them to how many other people meet the love of their life and get married. Very, very few people actually go their entire life without that someone. True, some people have to wait a long time...I have a friend who was in their fourties before she found someone, but when she did....it made all the pain and loneliness worth it, because it just made the love she found that much sweeter, the gift God gave her that much more wonderful.
I wish I knew the exact words to comfort you...I am almost 25 and sometimes I feel that I've messed up and I've missed my chance and that I'll be alone forever. But know this---God knows the desires of our hearts. He knows us, and He loves us. What Father would deny His child one of the deepest desires of their hearts, unless it wasn't good for them? Sometimes, we just have to wait, you know? I truly feel that when one has the desire to find someone, He will give us that opportunity one day, but God's timing is always best. As far as until that time...I think loneliness is God's way of calling us to Him, calling us home, getting us to spend time with Him. You are so young! Have faith!
In anime, it's easy to watch the romance and desire what we see. It's so beautiful, almost always a happy ending, and when it's sad, at least it's painfully beautiful. Love, real love, doesn't always work that way. It's very, very hard work. Even love as God intended it to be is VERY hard work, and often, there is no happy or perfect ending.
Osaka wrote: However, what we don't see is the pain which very often drives people to complete misery. That's the thing about romance. It give you momentary highs, and momentary lows so low that I know people who've actually become physically sick because of them. There's the thing about God's love that make that love so much more incredible. He doesn't break you the way that romance, even successful romance, will break you.
This is very, very true. She speaks wisely, this one.
God did not create us to live our lives alone. But until the time is right, we must give our hearts to Him, let Him hold us when it hurts or when we're lonely. We were meant to have that desire for companionship...that doesn't make you weak. But have faith! It's hard, I know. But take the time to sit and think...how many people do you know who actually spend their entire lives alone? Compare them to how many other people meet the love of their life and get married. Very, very few people actually go their entire life without that someone. True, some people have to wait a long time...I have a friend who was in their fourties before she found someone, but when she did....it made all the pain and loneliness worth it, because it just made the love she found that much sweeter, the gift God gave her that much more wonderful.
I wish I knew the exact words to comfort you...I am almost 25 and sometimes I feel that I've messed up and I've missed my chance and that I'll be alone forever. But know this---God knows the desires of our hearts. He knows us, and He loves us. What Father would deny His child one of the deepest desires of their hearts, unless it wasn't good for them? Sometimes, we just have to wait, you know? I truly feel that when one has the desire to find someone, He will give us that opportunity one day, but God's timing is always best. As far as until that time...I think loneliness is God's way of calling us to Him, calling us home, getting us to spend time with Him. You are so young! Have faith!
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dragonshimmer - Posts: 1422
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- Location: Hillbilly hickville for now.
Thanks... I feel better...
But like I said, it's not so much that I feel I'll never have anyone in this life, I just want to be able to have this eternal romance with the woman I marry on earth. And if I never get the chance to have a woman on earth, then I may have one in heaven... I really do believe that everyone should get a chance to have their own family at some point or another...
But like I said, it's not so much that I feel I'll never have anyone in this life, I just want to be able to have this eternal romance with the woman I marry on earth. And if I never get the chance to have a woman on earth, then I may have one in heaven... I really do believe that everyone should get a chance to have their own family at some point or another...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
- Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:41 pm
- Location: British Columbia Canada
I understand what you mean. Infinity is something that is impossible for finite beings to fully grasp, so sometimes the unknown of what eternity holds can be really scary. But just remember-- our happiness will be absolutely complete in heaven, no matter what happens. There won't be a single tear shed. No matter what. So trust God, 'cause He loves you.
Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart;
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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Yumie - Posts: 1939
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:00 pm
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Anyway, I think I'll get on with my story here... It all started going downhill in 2001 I think... I was 11 years old... But 2001... That was a nice peaceful summer... A multitude of fun things in that year that wern't there the following years... 
Before I continue, is anyone here firmilliar with the animated seiries "Buzz lightyear of star command"? Not toy story, but "buzz lightyear of start command"...
Before I continue, is anyone here firmilliar with the animated seiries "Buzz lightyear of star command"? Not toy story, but "buzz lightyear of start command"...-
Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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Can I just inform you about something? There are so many things on this life which we do not want to part with. But nothing on this earth is as sastisfying as God's love for us. You have no idea what you want now. I don't believe anybody really does. We do NOT know what heaven is like. Yes I too, wish to continue a marriage in heaven. But I do also know, a DROP of God's love for us will fullfill me more than any marriage can.
If you understand that God must be #1, and your wife will be #2, you must realize that God isn't just 1 step higher than your wife. He is infinate steps higher. There is just nothing else in between.
If you understand that God must be #1, and your wife will be #2, you must realize that God isn't just 1 step higher than your wife. He is infinate steps higher. There is just nothing else in between.
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Mr. SmartyPants - Posts: 12541
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Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Can I just inform you about something? There are so many things on this life which we do not want to part with. But nothing on this earth is as sastisfying as God's love for us. You have no idea what you want now. I don't believe anybody really does. We do NOT know what heaven is like. Yes I too, wish to continue a marriage in heaven. But I do also know, a DROP of God's love for us will fullfill me more than any marriage can.
If you understand that God must be #1, and your wife will be #2, you must realize that God isn't just 1 step higher than your wife. He is infinate steps higher. There is just nothing else in between.
Well, I don't really beleive that. I believe that love is love is infinite already. Think of it this way, do you love your wife more, or your children more? You can't answer because you love them both...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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sterility doesnt mean you wont have a wife. dont through out your dreams of marriage just because of that. there are couples out there who marry knowing beforehand that one of them is sterile. second off, what's wrong with adoption? there are a lot of children who need good homes, who need a good family, who may never get the chance to grow up in a loving Christian home. who knows, you may be able to make a difference in the lives of one of those children. thirdly, when the time comes, if it's that important to you and if possable (since i dont know the exact medical issue here), why not talk to a doctor about options you may have? maybe there's something they can do.
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Lie truths stripped of poet's gloss...
Lie truths stripped of poet's gloss...
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Jon Clement wrote:Well, I don't really beleive that. I believe that love is love is infinite already. Think of it this way, do you love your wife more, or your children more? You can't answer because you love them both...
I am not saying "do you love your wife or children more" I am asking "do you love God or your wife more". Heck it can be "do you love God or <insert any earthly thing, person, whatever> more"
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Mr. SmartyPants - Posts: 12541
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Well, it's not that I AM sterile... But then there are people who ARE... And I really can't stand to think that they will never know the joy of having a family.
But if it came to the point that I really could never have children, I'd probably adopt... But the thing is, I really want to see children of my very own. I want to see what my DNA looks like passed down to another generation... Still, I think it's only fair that people who really wanted their own children and never got them get some in heaven...
But if it came to the point that I really could never have children, I'd probably adopt... But the thing is, I really want to see children of my very own. I want to see what my DNA looks like passed down to another generation... Still, I think it's only fair that people who really wanted their own children and never got them get some in heaven...
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Jon Clement - Posts: 90
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