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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:55 pm

hello to all again,

i knew that suicide in Japan is the #1 cause of death for teens and when i saw this movie it kind of compelled me to take a closer look at Japan's youth and their culture and stuff haha...
was just wondering if anyone has seen this movie cause i have and its horrible..just all the blood and what the heck they just jump off its shocking i was just in shock when i saw that..

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Postby Wise Dragon » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:51 pm

no... never seen it, and i dont particuarly want to based on what you said; but there are suicide cults all over the world even in america so its not just the Japaneise.
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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:18 pm

yeah its crazy,

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like the applewhite crew that killed themselves in rancho something in California a few years ago i read some news articles in Japan it happens all the time and by what ive read theres websites that people go on and they talk about killing themselves and stuff and then get together somewhere and just kill themselves. it happens as much as suicide bombers in the middle east, ive read recent ones of attacks in israel and its crazy its like they jsut do it without notice and nobody knows who or when it will happen. kids, I have concluded that it is satan behind this madness and his antichrist dwells in unbelievers worldwide. my heart goes to those about to die.. :pinned:
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:41 pm

Episode 8 of Paranoia Agent featured 3 people who randevouzed from the internet met up and tried to each commit suicide together. I am for certain that episode was some sort of social commentary put in my Satoshi Kon.
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Postby Arnobius » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:01 pm

Volume 1 of Confidential Confessions manga had a story of two teens that attempt suicide. It had a strong anti-suicide message to it
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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:03 pm

how and where does one find this Volume 1 of Confidential Confessions manga oh great :rock: wise one?
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Postby Mangafanatic » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:14 pm

4m3r1c4 wrote:how and where does one find this Volume 1 of Confidential Confessions manga oh great :rock: wise one?



Head to your local Barnes and Nobels, Waldenbooks, or B. Dalton Book Seller. They shuld have it on the shelf, but if they don't-- ask them to special order it. I would warn you, however, that from what I've heard, Confidential Confessions is pretty adult. It deals with many very serious issues, and some of those issues lend themselves to content issues (stories concerning prostitution, if I remember correctly.) I might be wrong about the details on this one, but I'm pretty sure.
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Postby everdred12a » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:54 pm

AnimeHeretic wrote:Volume 1 of Confidential Confessions manga had a story of two teens that attempt suicide. It had a strong anti-suicide message to it


I remember that. It was so sad in the end... All of the CC mangas were, though.

CC has 5 volumes if I'm correct (that's all I've ever seen), and I have 4 of them. But they do cover many of the social problems people have, such as suicide (obviously), drugs, prostitution, bullying, child abuse, homosexuals, and whatever else is in volume 5 (that's right, that's just the first 4). Every book is a stand alone, as far as I know, and book 4 is a compilation of 4 mini-stories. Most of the stories deal with the problems pretty realistically (and graphically) although there's really no nudity at all, but there is some rather risque stuff. All in all, it's a pretty decent read, although they can be pretty depressing. I just never got around to finishing off the series.

But, back on topic, I've never really understood how people can be pro-suicide. I don't think I'll ever understand what could motivate a person to end their lives themselves. It seems like such a waste to me. I heard one time about a group called 'Right To Die' or something like that, and they're campaigning for suicide to be legal, and one of their primary examples of uses for legalizing it was so that people could kill themselves on stage at concerts. Go figure.

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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:00 pm

everdred12a wrote:I heard one time about a group called 'Right To Die' or something like that, and they're campaigning for suicide to be legal, and one of their primary examples of uses for legalizing it was so that people could kill themselves on stage at concerts. Go figure.


Wow... just wow... (insert comment here) :/
I sort of find the idea of "legalized suicide" as an oxymoron though. :/
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Postby Lynx » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:40 pm

hmmm you've got me interested now, my friend has the movie and she's gonna let me borrow it.
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Postby TheDrunkenNinja » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:56 pm

Yes, I've seen this. Not the movie, but the report of Japanese suicidals has appeared on TV news report. It said that some teens (emo, I believe) have been sharing their methods of suicide that will be carried out through e-mails. I'm not sure if what I heard is accurately related to this, but it's a guess.
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Postby termyt » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:41 am

Suicide is easier for some to understand than others. I, myself have a very sardonic personality and am definitely attracted to the gothic lifestyle. I've never been much of a group person and I am usually not one of the "main characters" of any group's story. If it weren't for my relationship with Jesus Christ, those tendencies could have led me down a much darker path indeed. How does one who sees the dark side of any situation face each new day without the joy inherent in serving the living God?
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Postby holysoldier5000 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:37 am

My first run into the “suicide clubâ€
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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:22 am

i heard of some group in florida i think that let people kill themselves at their concert and also someone told me marilyn manson picks one person at every one of his concerts to go on stage and kill him or herself.

i.d like to go to Japan though and teach youth and old about life and that they should value it more than we do cause we're just as bad here in the US we kill ourselves slowly everyone does its nice to know God is gracious and i choose to serve him.
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Postby Wise Dragon » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:28 am

the destructive tendanceies of mankind are truly terrifying. What we do to ourselves...each other. If God does not come back soon then we are all trully destined for destruction.
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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:28 am

i went by a local shop at one of the malls here in Tucson and since they have a pretty big selectionf of anime products and movies i decided to take a look around and I found a few movies and read the synopsies on the back and discovered that a lot of them deal with suicide like serial experiments : Lain deals with a girls friend commiting suicide and the girl recieves messages from her dead friend..::scary:: i did find an otaku unite dvd on accident and thought it was pretty cool..::will buy next time i get the chance:: :thumb:
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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:15 am

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Postby TheDrunkenNinja » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:11 pm

Voicing my opinion, suicide is an extremely despicable act. All life is sacred, mortal or immortal alike. I still find it hard to believe that some people are still not content with life.
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Postby 4m3r1c4 » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:34 am

I found some of the websites that are shown and talked about in the movie..

www.haikyo.com
www.jikennews.com
http://maru_ne_jp.pitas.com/


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Postby MorwenLaicoriel » Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:11 am

4m3r1c4 wrote:i heard of some group in florida i think that let people kill themselves at their concert and also someone told me marilyn manson picks one person at every one of his concerts to go on stage and kill him or herself.


OK, about the Marilyn Manson thing....not that I support him at all, but do you have some sort of reliable first-hand source to back that claim up? It seems to me like if he was doing that sort of thing it'd be all over the news and the police would stop his concerts.

It's really sad about the teens committing suicide...India has a lot of a problem with that, too. When I lived there, during the exam season...it seemed like every week there were new reports of kids getting bad grades and committing suicide over it. Japan seems to have a history off suicide, too...really, it's sad.
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