Life on other planets.

[Technomancer]

, and which are again reiterated in the movie "Contact" as SirThinks2Much pointed out.

Trust me, the novel is far, far better than the shallow piece of drek that Hollywood served up.

[TurkishMonky]

i would hope so, but i'm guessing angels would count anyway, so i said yes.

[Mr. Rogers]

i keep seeing a bunch of people say things like:

"why wouldn't life develop elsewhere"

"there are billions of stars, so they all have a chance for life to develop"

you have to remember that life doesn't develop, it is created.

in my opinion, earth is all God created in the universe that has life. man is the crown of God's creation, we are not just one in a million. and even if there was life elsewhere, the planets and stars they revolved around are so far away, that they would never have a chance to get to earth and we would never get to them. so it can't be proven or disproven. all this SETI stuff is a waste of time and taxpayer's billions of dollars.

[Slater]

That is right. SETI is mostly run by evolutionists who believe that the universe came about by random chance. Isn't it ironic that the same people say that it would be impossible for us to recieve radio signals which resemble something intelegible (eg, something that looks like it's being sent by little green men) that could be the result of random cosmic radio-wave bursts. In other words, they belive in total chance and believe that such chance cannot be true at the same time.

Likewise, I belive that God may have put some lifeforms out there and we very well may discover them. But again, I think that this form of life couldn't be anything more than unicelular organisms, or maybe even something like dogs or dolphins, but certainly nothing on the level of humans.

PS: I did some fun calculations involving probability last night/early this morning. Check the link in my sig.

[SonicRose]

NASA has been looking for life for years. Every time they get excited about a rock from mars or a fuzz in the radio signals from space, they throw a party, then have to revoke their statements on squint print articals about how it was just scratches on rocks, not bacteria, or the data was wrong etc....

No, I don't believe there's life on other planets.

The bible is very clear that we are the crown of creation. That said, God's got the final say in things. The more we find out about the conditions of our planet and the more we find out about what's out there; the more apparent it becomes that "There's no place like home"

btw, most science fiction is written by agnostics and atheists. Isaac Isomov for example; Atheist... you'll know him for I, Robot, Bicentenial Man, etc. He created the "Rules of Robotics." You'll also notice a lot of science fiction take rather dark twists... they are always searching for answers but never coming to the truth.

Our world is beautifully and wonderfully made. All our imaginings are pale immitations of the truth. Even the wildest sci fi still adheres to rules; Humans or humanoids with eyes mouths ears, at least most of the 5 senses... a sky and stars and gravity. etc.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

[Artist4Jesus89]

i personally am not sure about this subject i mean i do beleive that there COULD BE other humans in other galaxies and im not talking little green men here i mean like humans but i also beleive that ther may not be i think the only way to find out is when we die to ask God thats basically the only way i mean yeah there could be a planet JUST LIKE OURS somewhere in that open universe OR God could have created the universe to let us see his majesty and power i dont know i think it could be a possibility tho.
Thats just my opinion

[Mr. Rogers]

OR God could have created the universe to let us see his majesty and power i dont know i think it could be a possibility tho.
Thats just my opinion

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. Genesis 1

hmmmmm......

[termyt]

I personally see it as arrogant to state an opinion on a topic like this flatly. The universe appears to be quite vast, but I do not know the mind of God. Was His intent simply to gives us stars to inspire us? Are we one of many experiments? I’m sure I do not know, nor would I pretend to. It is also kind of odd to assume He’d tell us if He did make other intelligent life. What business is it of ours to know such things? It has no affect on His message to us.

There certainly is the potential for other life out there, but statistically speaking, life on Earth is an anomaly. There is only a 1 in a 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance of humans coming up through the primordial ooze as we did, according to some mathematical data I read once. That’s a number I don’t recognize. (The bold is the billions section - that number is 100 billion times 1 trillion). If there are a 100 billion stars in a 100 billion galaxies, then statistically speaking, one of them probably has life like ours. And one of them does. Of course, that doesn't take into account intelligent life that isn't like ours.

[Technomancer]

You know this really bothers me. I can understand that for one reason or another people don't think that extraterrestrial life is likely, or even possible. But the idea that we should refrain from even looking, or from following any line of investigation that might challenge us in our beliefs. The whole point of doing science is that we might be wrong, and because of this we must investigate, we must experiment and must follow the data without regard to religion or ideology. And to say that one's religious beliefs not only trump empirical evidence, but serve as a justification for shutting down scientific inquiry is truly anethma to me both as a scholar and as a Christian.

By the way, SETI cost your government peanuts. It was a profound act of waste on the part of US congress to cut the program, because all of the equipment had already been bought. All they needed to do was pay the electric bills and a few people's salaries. That would maybe have come to at most three hundred thousand dollars per year in addition to the couple of million already spent. Keep in mind that this was a time when NASA's entire budget was ~5% that of the Pentagon.

[mitsuki lover]

I do not believe we can rightfully argue for the existance or non-existance of life,intelligent or otherwise,on the basis of the Bible.This is because we must remember that the Bible is a book whose sole purpose is to teach us about
God and how we can have a relationship with him.It is not a book about science or philosophy for that matter.
We must also concede that the Bible was written by men living in a pre-scientific age when such questions would not have been asked or even raised.
The question of life on other planets is one for science and not the Bible to answer.
I believe that there is intelligent life elsewhere because I believe in a God who is vast enough and full of enough love and grace toward his Creation that he would not merely try it only once but multiple times because he would desire myriads of creatures to enjoy his love and companionship throughout eternity.
This also goes to my belief that we are just part of a vast multiverse and not just one single universe.
We should not be so naive or arrogant to think that mankind is the center of the universe or that our universe is the only one there is.Anything with God is possible.

[Slater]

of course, we may look, but we probably will never find anything. So far, all that groups like seti have done has come up with zilch; they have listened to millions of frequencies over the course of all these years and have yet to come up with anything that shows a shred of order or intelegence... nothing but static from cosmic radiation.

Also, I doubt that there are other human-like beings out there because, if they were perfect and sinless, they would be doomed anyways. I don't remember the reference (And I don't have the resources to look them up here as I'm in a math lab), but it is in the Bible that in the end of our world's time, God will roll the universe up "like a scroll," which would no doubt bring the end of any world and planet and star in this universe.

[Stephen]

And you guys wonder why we frown on debate/theological stuff here on CAA.