bigfoot... do YOU believe?

[Arnobius]

It`s the actor that played Chewbacca. Yes, the actor that played Chewbacca was selected for his appearence.

I`m just kidding obviously, but did you know the actor that played Chewbacca became a US citizen this last year? XD

Peter Mayhew?

[glitch1501]

some interesting links

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4650388.stm
(maylasian government funding bigfoot search)

here is a stablized gif of the old bigfoot video
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/files/mk_davis_pgf.gif
(its really cool

[Kaligraphic]

Who am *I* to believe the purpose of the universe was to give me a place to play?

You're ... Mithrandir, are you not?




Personally, I do believe in the existence of Bigfoot, as Shaq has been documented to exist on numerous occasions. I believe in the existance of aliens, too - especially Canadians, Mexicans, and Australians.



Joking aside, no, I don't believe in space aliens, I consider the balance of probabilities to be distinctly against the existance of Bigfoot, and I rather suspect that ol' Nessie is little more than a spur for tourism.

[Debitt]

That GIF IS cool! XD But I actually think that particular video really was a guy in a gorilla suit if I remember correctly.

Though Alice does bring up a good point - it's interesting to see that so many cultures have their own versions of creatures like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster and dragons. While I'm slightly skeptical about their existance today, judging from all the myths and folklore that parallel in so many ways, it's perfectly likely that creatures like these did exist at one point in time. Maybe not now, but isn't the statistic like, only 1% of all the total species that ever existed are alive today?

[Arnobius]

some interesting links

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4650388.stm
(maylasian government funding bigfoot search)

here is a stablized gif of the old bigfoot video
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/files/mk_davis_pgf.gif
(its really cool

Well, the Maylasian article was interesting, but the GIF really looked like a guy in a costume to me... just blurry enough to prevent close scrutiny of the details

[Pent]

I find it funny that people say it's unlikely a Bigfoot exists because it has managed to evade us for so long. Well actaully it hasn't. Thousands of people would swear they saw it. I don't know how many of them are lieing, but it's not like it has managed to evade us. It hasn't.

[Yojimbo]

I find it funny that people say it's unlikely a Bigfoot exists because it has managed to evade us for so long. Well actaully it hasn't. Thousands of people would swear they saw it. I don't know how many of them are lieing, but it's not like it has managed to evade us. It hasn't.

Thousands of people have said they're Jesus reincarnated too. I could tell you the moon is made of cheese but it doesn't make it true. Until someone finds the body of a huge dead unidentified primate in Amerca, or some other kind of credible evidence then science isn't going to recognize it as existing.

[KA1-EG13]

OK...this might throw everybody in for a loop, but this is what I believe.

In days long ancient past, people use to be plaughed by demonic enteties (Oh, please bare with me) called inccubi and succubi. Anybody who knows anything about Inccubi and Succubi know what they are famous for. Now adays, when people are abducted by aliens, it is reported that the ET's perform similar sinful activities to thier victems as the Inccubi and Succubi.

In times even longer go, I believe, there were these creatures called "Brownies" that would come clean your house if you gave them food. These Brownies, however had a distaste towards anything religious and usualy wouldn't stick around if Jesus was mentioned. The same distaste towards Christly things is also reported of the Tengu (japanese Goblins), The New Jersey Devil, and according to a ceartain Mr.Bender, Aliens too deny Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

(I don't have the time and patience right now to show all my sources, but trust me on this, I'm not spewing out random fanatical nonsense, I've done a bit of reasearch.)

Due to such reports and my own experiance with extra-terrestrials, I am led to securely conclude that apparations of ET's, Inccubi, Tengu, the Jersey Devil, Big foot (in many alien abduction cases, large hairy men are reported to be with the aliens), Chubacabra, Mothman, and all other Crytozoologic creatures with the exeption of nesse and a few others are indeed Demonic enteties taking on one form or another as they have always done to decieve and terrorize mankind.

Yeah...pretty wild, but when you look into it, it kinda makes sense...thats what I believe anyways.

[Tenshi no Ai]

Due to such reports and my own experiance with extra-terrestrials, I am led to securely conclude that apparations of ET's, Inccubi, Tengu, the Jersey Devil, Big foot (in many alien abduction cases, large hairy men are reported to be with the aliens), Chubacabra, Mothman, and all other Crytozoologic creatures with the exeption of nesse and a few others are indeed Demonic enteties taking on one form or another as they have always done to decieve and terrorize mankind.

Yeah...pretty wild, but when you look into it, it kinda makes sense...thats what I believe anyways.

Yeah an itneresting way of looking at it... If you don't know what it is and it's obviously not a good thing, just blame it on the demons!

I just heard about the mothman thing on tv a while ago and was like "Riiiiight. That's a new one for me."

But it's true that these things do seem supernatural and well, guess it can give the best explanation, if anything.

[mitsuki lover]

I believe that John Tesh is really an alien!

[Sammy Boy]

In times even longer go, I believe, there were these creatures called "Brownies" that would come clean your house if you gave them food. These Brownies, however had a distaste towards anything religious and usualy wouldn't stick around if Jesus was mentioned. The same distaste towards Christly things is also reported of the Tengu (japanese Goblins), The New Jersey Devil, and according to a ceartain Mr.Bender, Aliens too deny Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

(I don't have the time and patience right now to show all my sources, but trust me on this, I'm not spewing out random fanatical nonsense, I've done a bit of reasearch.)

Those are interesting comments. Okay, would it be alright to ask that you set aside some time, document your sources and then substantiate those statements? You can PM me if you wish. Thank you.

[Nate]

There's some stuff on wikipedia:

A brownie, broonie (Scots) or ùruisg/brùnaidh (Scottish Gaelic) is a legendary kind of elf popular in folklore around England and Scotland. He is the British counterpart of the Scandinavian tomte, the Russian domovoi or the German Heinzelmännchen.

The article doesn't mention a distaste for religious things, but it does say if they were offered a gift of clothes that they would abandon the house.

More interesting still is that in the case of the ùruisg, offering it a gift for its services would cause it to be banished forever.

These are all nice stories, but I think in the end that's all they are: stories.

As far as aliens go, I agree with Calvin from Calvin & Hobbes:

"I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."

[KA1-EG13]

Those are interesting comments. Okay, would it be alright to ask that you set aside some time, document your sources and then substantiate those statements? You can PM me if you wish. Thank you.

Sure. It'll take some time though. It might be a week or half a week depending on my mood. I'll PM you when I get it put together.

[Debitt]

The same distaste towards Christly things is also reported of the Tengu (japanese Goblins)...

Incubi and succubi, yes, I think you're on the right track with those because traditionally they WERE demons. However, regarding tengu, I've NEVER heard of any instances of aversion to Christ or any other form of religion in tengu. Additionally, tengu in more modern Japanese mythology are NOT all malevolent (however early tengu, particularly the karasu tengu, were considered to be evil, but this idea isn't the norm anymore) - in fact, the good majority of them aren't. Some tengu are benevolent and considered masters of the sword and martial arts - I believe the famous swordsman Minamoto no Yoshitsune was tutored by a tengu, as well as several other icons of Japanese myth. Other tengu are tricksters, neither particularly good nor evil, just out for a good laugh. The tengu that could be considered malevolent are usually responsible for "kamikakushi" (spiriting people away) or controlling a human's body.

I think your idea of tengu being "averted to Christ" may stem from the vengeful nature tengu are said to have - those who insult them in ways are usually punished for their behavior, and monks/preists who were overly prideful were said to be reincarnated as yamanobushi tengu when they died. (hence the images of tengu carrying staffs that monks would carry) These ideas came to prominence in Japan during a period of wide spread corruption in the Buddhist clergy, and probably were invented as a warning to those who were up to no good.

Could some instances of "tengu" be counted as demonic? No doubt, as with many other supernatural phenomena. But I would NOT mass lump them as "demonic" by nature because they mostly are just elements of Japanese myth.

P.S.: A lot of the stuff I said can be referenced here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu. I'd like to see where you've found your own sources, if that's no trouble.

[~Natsumi Lam~]

na i dont....

well my dad kinda looks like that in the morning.


~NL~

[Nate]

But I would NOT mass lump them as "demonic" by nature because they mostly are just elements of Japanese myth.

Yeah, that's how I feel. Just because they're mythological doesn't mean that they're demons. Sometimes a story is just a story, nothing more. I mean, we have our own "legends" about Santa and the Easter Bunny...and it's entirely possible that a thousand years in the future, people will read what we've written about these imaginary things and think that they really existed. No, just because they're prominent in folklore doesn't make them real at all.

And I think people blame demons for too much already anyway, but that's just what I think.

[Voodoo Wolf]

"I am firmly of the belief that Bigfoot is just a guy in a large monkey suit that got filmed by his friend. "


xDF thats what I always chose to believe to,I never believed in Bigfoot...but I do believe in ghosts : )

[Peanut]

xDF thats what I always chose to believe to,I never believed in Bigfoot...but I do believe in ghosts : )

What about the ghost of bigfoot?! Sorry, I couldn't resist. I personally don't believe in bigfoot.

[CDLviking]

Sometimes a story is just a story, nothing more. I mean, we have our own "legends" about Santa and the Easter Bunny...and it's entirely possible that a thousand years in the future, people will read what we've written about these imaginary things and think that they really existed. No, just because they're prominent in folklore doesn't make them real at all.

Well, to be perfectly technical, St. Nicholas did really exist. It is only within the past 200 years that the Santa Claus legends have turned to popular fiction.

[Nate]

Well, to be perfectly technical, St. Nicholas did really exist. It is only within the past 200 years that the Santa Claus legends have turned to popular fiction.

Okay, yeah, there was a guy like that now that I think about it. XD But I meant the popular character of Santa Claus, not the like...actually guy...

But the Easter Bunny still stands! Oh, and the Tooth Fairy! Yeah, that's a good one too.

[Rogie]

Okay, yeah, there was a guy like that now that I think about it. XD But I meant the popular character of Santa Claus, not the like...actually guy...

But the Easter Bunny still stands! Oh, and the Tooth Fairy! Yeah, that's a good one too.

Actually, Bugs Bunny once acted as a substitute for the Easter Bunny, so technically, he is real. Because we all know that Bugs Bunny is real.

And don't you deny it!

[mitsuki lover]

We could get all philosophical here and debate what the nature of reality really is,such a debate would raise the obvious question of wheter or not any of us really exist outside of the percieved imaginings of each other.
Back to Bigfootlike creatures:I believe I have noted elsewhere my belief that Grendel and his mother in Beowulf were similiar creatures.

[Nate]

such a debate would raise the obvious question of wheter or not any of us really exist outside of the percieved imaginings of each other.

Only if you're a solipsist.

[CDLviking]

We could get all philosophical here and debate what the nature of reality really is,such a debate would raise the obvious question of wheter or not any of us really exist outside of the percieved imaginings of each other.

Oooh! Now you've got me all excited. We could go into different modes of existence as well. Bigfoot may or may not have actual existence, but at the most rudimentary level, it does have being. Anything that can be imagined has some degree of being. The only things that don't have being are things that are self-contradictory, like a square-circle, because you can't actually think of it.

[Sammy Boy]

We should probably start a new thread if we talk philosophy.

[IZ&Trigun4life]

Hey I love any thing paranormal..real or not...Big Foot...hmm well If God wanted to freak us out with a really huge ape man..then...I'm cool with it ^^

[mitsuki lover]

Interesting enough Bigfoot was actually the name of the Sioux chief who was killed at the Wounded Knee massacre.

[Nate]

Then he DID exist! XP

[mitsuki lover]

Well he was a Sioux,but I don't know if he was a Sweet Sioux!LOL!!!:)

[Nate]

Or a boy named Sioux.

D'OH HO HO HO HO!

...I slay me.