http://money.cnn.com/2005/12/13/news/midcaps/anime_fortune_121205/index.htm?cnn=yes
>_< If it's too political, and I don't think it is, I understand anyway. However, I find it incredibly interesting and people are starting to realize what a big market Anime is.
Anime related article on CNN.com
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Puguni - Posts: 1323
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I love the respect they pay to the art form. Quotes like:
Really made the thing worth reading.
Description of the appeal of anime wrote:What draws them in? These cartoons all have a soap opera appeal: Plots build over the course of an unusually long season (typically 52 episodes), as characters die, fall in love, do dumb things.
Really made the thing worth reading.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.
But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Mangafanatic - Posts: 4918
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Mangafanatic wrote:I love the respect they pay to the art form. Quotes like:
[Quote=Description of the appeal of anime]
What draws them in? These cartoons all have a soap opera appeal: Plots build over the course of an unusually long season (typically 52 episodes), as characters die, fall in love, do dumb things.
Really made the thing worth reading.
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If you really thought about it, "dumb things" could mean a variety of things in other people's opinions; not everything an anime character does is intelligent, to be literal. Yes, their view of anime is pretty shallow, but we're talking about a huge possibility that a middle-aged business man who has only been exposed to mainstream shows wrote this.
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Puguni - Posts: 1323
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[quote="Puguni"]If you really thought about it, "dumb things" could mean a variety of things in other people's opinions]
True. I think the entire context of the article is focused more on the business aspect of anime and not of an opinion (otherwise it wouldn't be put in the "news" catagory). Soaps do have people doing dumb things, as a result to the plotline, have their consequences.
But as an article coming from Fortune, it could have been a little more specific.
True. I think the entire context of the article is focused more on the business aspect of anime and not of an opinion (otherwise it wouldn't be put in the "news" catagory). Soaps do have people doing dumb things, as a result to the plotline, have their consequences.
But as an article coming from Fortune, it could have been a little more specific.
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Chiyocities - Posts: 62
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There's a more complete link at the bottom of the page, which I read (in the real magazine, actually).
The problem is that the article is not anime in general, but ADV. ADV is a rather large distributor, yes, but they are not the only ones in business and their operating model isn't the only way to go (especially given that they have gone for a highly diverse one, including an H-oriented product line which other businesses have been quite profitable without). What about Viz, or AnimEigo (my personal pick for best publisher), or Pioneer Geneon, or ... ?
The problem is that the article is not anime in general, but ADV. ADV is a rather large distributor, yes, but they are not the only ones in business and their operating model isn't the only way to go (especially given that they have gone for a highly diverse one, including an H-oriented product line which other businesses have been quite profitable without). What about Viz, or AnimEigo (my personal pick for best publisher), or Pioneer Geneon, or ... ?
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"Al hail the forum editting Shooby! His vibes are law!" - Osaka-chan
I could still be champ, but I'd feel bad taking it away from one of the younger guys. - George Foreman
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shooraijin - Posts: 9927
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shooraijin wrote:There's a more complete link at the bottom of the page, which I read (in the real magazine, actually).
The problem is that the article is not anime in general, but ADV. ADV is a rather large distributor, yes, but they are not the only ones in business and their operating model isn't the only way to go (especially given that they have gone for a highly diverse one, including an H-oriented product line which other businesses have been quite profitable without). What about Viz, or AnimEigo (my personal pick for best publisher), or Pioneer Geneon, or ... ?
ADV is the largest and most successful of the distributors, so if you're a reporter with no knowledge of the subject, they're probably the logical choice.
Personally, I'm glad they didn't choose AnimEigo... can you imagine what they would say?
"The Anime industry is run by some incompetent people, irresponsible, who couldn't make a deadline if their life depended on it, releasing shoddy products and incapable of holding the rights to their acquired series"
(Urusei Yatsura finally completed some SIX years after their original projection... ADV got Macross... I wish they had gotten UY as well)
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Arnobius - Posts: 2870
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Well, that's true. From a FORTUNE point of view, AnimEigo has a very strange way of doing business. But I think they're the highest quality stuff, when they do get off their collective rear ends.
Besides, AnimEigo distributed Macross -- I have one of their boxes here!
My point is that the article was fairly monochromatic.
Besides, AnimEigo distributed Macross -- I have one of their boxes here!
My point is that the article was fairly monochromatic.
"you're a doctor.... and 27 years.... so...doctor + 27 years = HATORI SOHMA" - RoyalWing, when I was 27
"Al hail the forum editting Shooby! His vibes are law!" - Osaka-chan
I could still be champ, but I'd feel bad taking it away from one of the younger guys. - George Foreman
"Al hail the forum editting Shooby! His vibes are law!" - Osaka-chan
I could still be champ, but I'd feel bad taking it away from one of the younger guys. - George Foreman
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shooraijin - Posts: 9927
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Ironically enough, being a Houston native, I have YET to see an anime store in the whole area for several years. Planet Anime used to be HQ'd there, but they've been over-run into a dinky little one that's not worth sneezing on. Questionable practices aside, I'd really appreciate it if the home for the biggest distributor in the country could have at least ONE local store! </rant>
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Ashley - Posts: 7364
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Description of the appeal of anime wrote:Plots build over the course of an unusually long season (typically 52 episodes), as characters die, fall in love, do dumb things.
Um, the SEASONS are not typically 52 episodes long. The SERIES may be, but not the seasons. And dying, falling in love, and doing dumb things-- don't most all forms of entertainment have these aspects? And besides that, the writer doesn't include many of the other valuable aspects of anime. I didn't read the article, I just saw this quote, but from it alone it sounds like the writer is pretty un-informed and biased.
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Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
Thou my best Thought, by day or by night,
Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light.
Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word;
I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord;
Thou my great Father, I Thy true son;
Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one.
Be Thou my battle Shield, Sword for the fight;
Be Thou my Dignity, Thou my Delight;
Thou my soul’s Shelter, Thou my high Tower:
Raise Thou me heavenward, O Power of my power.
Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise,
Thou mine Inheritance, now and always:
Thou and Thou only, first in my heart,
High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art.
High King of Heaven, my victory won,
May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heaven’s Sun!
Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all.
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Yumie - Posts: 1939
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Store? They actually have STORES devoted to anime? I end up ordering everything online because the places that sell anime around here either put really high prices on everything or have a really poor selection. Most of the stuff I find either looks sketchy or is something I have never heard of before.
As for the article, it seemed to me that it was more an attempt to understand a marketing phenomina by business types. They tend to misunderstand niche markets, in my experience, because they are used to dealing with mainstream culture. They also seem to look at Anime as a strange form of entertainment, which seems pretty common in my experience. Most people who find out I like anime give me strange looks or question my sanity. Not that I blame them when all they likely see are shows like Pokemon and the bizarre TokyoPop comics the Milwaukee paper has started printing (no offense to fans, but it would seem a bit strange for a 23 year old male to like that stuff), but I digress.
As for the article, it seemed to me that it was more an attempt to understand a marketing phenomina by business types. They tend to misunderstand niche markets, in my experience, because they are used to dealing with mainstream culture. They also seem to look at Anime as a strange form of entertainment, which seems pretty common in my experience. Most people who find out I like anime give me strange looks or question my sanity. Not that I blame them when all they likely see are shows like Pokemon and the bizarre TokyoPop comics the Milwaukee paper has started printing (no offense to fans, but it would seem a bit strange for a 23 year old male to like that stuff), but I digress.
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Puritan - Posts: 799
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Store? They actually have STORES devoted to anime? I end up ordering everything online because the places that sell anime around here either put really high prices on everything or have a really poor selection. Most of the stuff I find either looks sketchy or is something I have never heard of before.
*sigh* They used to. I knew of about 3 in Houston, but they've mostly died out. Well, and I don't LIVE in Houston anymore, so even if they did I couldn't go every weekend. The Waldenbooks by my house, though, pratically could be--they have like, 15 bookshelves devoted to manga alone, then more to dvds, toys, etc.
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Tom Dincht wrote:They also said girls who read anime are weird.
"The girls have drawn their own manga for us. Not just one weird girl -- a lot of girls."
They were not calling girls who like anime/manga weird. They meant there was not one unusual (using a synonym) girl who was the only one interested in manga, but that it was quite a few girls who like the genre. Their point was its not an unique hobby or interest anymore.
I also noted the same biases against anime that most of the older folks who grew up with stunning animation of shows like Speed Racer have in the article, not that American cartoons from the sixties are so much more impressive. His area of expertise is obviously buisness rather than art or pop culture. It's not likely he watched any of the non-stereotypical animes out there when researching this article.
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