Greek and Hebrew Of the Bible

Talk about anything in here.

Greek and Hebrew Of the Bible

Postby ~Natsumi Lam~ » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:25 pm

Do you guys study the original Greek and Hebrew interlinery ?

If so what do you choose to study?

~NL~
my new little sis: Eriana :) an awsome woman in Christ!!


- "For we fight not against flesh and blood" -

<~~~Eph.6:12-18~~~>



User avatar
~Natsumi Lam~
 
Posts: 708
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:29 am
Location: In my house :')

Postby meboeck » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:45 pm

I don't, but I really want to get a Greek New Testament. I think it would be very helpful.
*insert poem, quote, or witty comment here*

"If it doesn't fit, you must edIT! -- [color=#cc3322]MOES."
[/color]
User avatar
meboeck
 
Posts: 1311
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Earth

Postby Slater » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:53 pm

I use electronic lexicon in conjunction with my electronic copy of the JBF commentary while reading my KJV so I can understand the exact meaning of wording in the Bible sometimes.
Image
User avatar
Slater
 
Posts: 2671
Joined: Sat May 22, 2004 10:00 am
Location: Pacifica, Caliphornia

Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:09 pm

I always use text notes and original language commentaries. Both can be very helpful, and when there are issues concerning specific language they are absolutely critical. Whenever I am involved in a serious inductive study I try to have someone on hand who actually knows Hebrew or Greek. This is not too difficult at college, but I predict that will be less frequent afterward.
User avatar
uc pseudonym
 
Posts: 15506
Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:00 am
Location: Tanzania

Postby Cap'n Nick » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:16 pm

I'm just starting to learn the languages myself, so I haven't made a comparison of the quality of the various resources available. Right now I only have one source text and one lexicon for each language. These would be Biblica Hebraica Stuttgartensia and Holladay's A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament for Hebrew and a rather generic Greek New Testament.

Do be careful researching the original texts, though. As new at this as I am I've already heard plenty of examples of how someone went off and formed a cult after reading some verb differently or botching a definite or indefinite article. When it's The Bible, little words can make a big difference.
User avatar
Cap'n Nick
 
Posts: 1008
Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:00 am
Location: Kojima, Japan

Postby ~Natsumi Lam~ » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:22 pm

i use the electronic ones too,

~NL~
my new little sis: Eriana :) an awsome woman in Christ!!


- "For we fight not against flesh and blood" -

<~~~Eph.6:12-18~~~>



User avatar
~Natsumi Lam~
 
Posts: 708
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:29 am
Location: In my house :')

Postby Ashley » Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:02 pm

I use Liddell and Scott's Greek Lexicon, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's ONLY Greek to English, and not vice versa, which is rather infuriating sometimes.
Image
User avatar
Ashley
 
Posts: 7364
Joined: Mon May 26, 2003 10:00 am
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Postby Puritan » Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:32 pm

Strong's Exhaustive is a great way to look at words in Greek and Hebrew and their meaning. Although it is only from KJV to the original language, it lists every word in the Bible, and then directs you to the word in the original language in a dictionary in the back. It's really easy to use, and the definitions are considered extremely reliable. I've found it really useful when I've run across members of cults who try to twist the wording of scripture.
User avatar
Puritan
 
Posts: 799
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:26 pm
Location: The Southeast

Postby Yeshua-Knight » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:09 pm

i use the interlinear bible included on my pc study bible software, it even has a feature where u can click on the greek word and it'll pop up a window with the strongs info in it
'nuff said
User avatar
Yeshua-Knight
 
Posts: 720
Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:13 pm
Location: Somewhere within the universe

Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:17 pm

No, I don't because I wouldn't have a hope with it. I don't even have ease learning a bit of Japanese!
User avatar
Warrior 4 Jesus
 
Posts: 4844
Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:52 pm
Location: The driest continent that isn't Antarctica.

Postby Deny_Yourself » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:22 pm

~Natsumi Lam~ wrote:Do you guys study the original Greek and Hebrew interlinery ?

If so what do you choose to study?

~NL~


I use the Hebrew-Greek Keyword Study Bible (NKJV) and Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. Awesome pair.
User avatar
Deny_Yourself
 
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:43 pm
Location: In Christ, hopefully

Postby CDLviking » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:31 am

Greek is next on my list of languages to learn. I currently read a Latin Vulgate Bible, still a translation, but closest to the source.
User avatar
CDLviking
 
Posts: 1794
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:28 pm
Location: Phoenix

Postby Kaligraphic » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:23 pm

I read some Latin and some Greek - the Sword Project can do vertical parallel, which is almost the same as interlinear. Only problem, really, is that my Greek texts are unaccented. No breathing marks, no accents, no iota subscripts - it's a little harder for me because of that.

Ah, well, the program is free, after all.
The cake used to be a lie like you, but then it took a portal to the deception core.
User avatar
Kaligraphic
 
Posts: 2002
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: The catbox of DOOM!

Postby Ashley » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:25 pm

No breathing marks, no accents, no iota subscripts - it's a little harder for me because of that.


Eek! That sounds like torture, especially given things like ei and ei (with breathing and accent), etc.
Image
User avatar
Ashley
 
Posts: 7364
Joined: Mon May 26, 2003 10:00 am
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Postby Galant » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:19 pm

Greek and Hebrew are useful, but watch out for the distraction. There are tons of little Christian 'rabbit trails' that seem super interesting and useful, but truly, are not that significant for most believers. As a good friend once said, "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing".

By all means learn and study and grow from it, but make sure you're majoring on the majors and not on the minors.

:)

God bless.
No trees were harmed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were displaced and terribly inconvenienced.

Adopted by Starfire!

OATS - for Shoobie goodness!
User avatar
Galant
 
Posts: 323
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:23 pm
Location: Gibraltar

Postby Kaligraphic » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:05 pm

Ashley wrote:Eek! That sounds like torture, especially given things like ei and ei (with breathing and accent), etc.

Yeah, if you know where to find a free, downloadable text with the accents, let me know posthaste.
The cake used to be a lie like you, but then it took a portal to the deception core.
User avatar
Kaligraphic
 
Posts: 2002
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: The catbox of DOOM!

Postby Galant » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:19 pm

No trees were harmed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were displaced and terribly inconvenienced.

Adopted by Starfire!

OATS - for Shoobie goodness!
User avatar
Galant
 
Posts: 323
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:23 pm
Location: Gibraltar

Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:12 am

I am with Puritan on this one as I usually use Strong's when I am curious as to what a word might actually mean.For example when I was watching Science of the Bible on National Geographic they said that a certain word in Greek meant laborer and not carpenter.So I looked it up and NG was wrong,the word in question does indeed mean carpenter.In fact it actually means artisan who works with wood,there is a totally different Greek word that would have been used for laborer.
I believe the ability to know what the actual Greek and Hebrew words mean help us to get a clearer understand of what the Bible is trying to say to us.
User avatar
mitsuki lover
 
Posts: 8486
Joined: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:00 pm

Postby Boink! » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:44 am

When translating to another language there's always some depth to things that are taken away. While I believe in an inerrant, God-breathed Bible, there are many treasures to be found when studying in the original language. I use a Greek Bible, a NKJV New Testament with the greek, NASB, NIV, Greek Lexicons, and Bible dictionaries. If you have the software, it makes it much easier. Here is a list of great sources to use:

Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domains (Louw-Nida)
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Abridged ("Little Kittel")
The Anchor Bible Dictionary (Great set!)

There are more but I don't have them all in front of me. I took four semesters of Koine Greek and it has been very rewarding. I am saving up for the Scholar's Library Silver Edition (QB) CD-ROM - Logos Bible Software Series X. It's a great investment for a library of works.
User avatar
Boink!
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:12 am
Location: Under a bed

Postby Kaligraphic » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:09 pm

Galant - is there a download link on that site somewhere for the text?
The cake used to be a lie like you, but then it took a portal to the deception core.
User avatar
Kaligraphic
 
Posts: 2002
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: The catbox of DOOM!

Postby Cap'n Nick » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:47 am

I made this for a LiveJournal post but I realized it applied here also, even if it does detract from the seriousness of the conversation somewhat. Behold, the dangers of knowing just enough Hebrew to get you in trouble!

Image
User avatar
Cap'n Nick
 
Posts: 1008
Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:00 am
Location: Kojima, Japan

Postby Syreth » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:29 pm

I use Strong's Exhaustive in E-sword when necessary. I don't really have a problem with the english, though, since the new testament paraphrases when it quotes the old testament. The Bible is for both the layman and the scholar, after all. Of course, I don't want to discourage anyone from studying the language. I'm always blessed when someone has a relevant insight from the Greek or Hebrew.
Image
User avatar
Syreth
 
Posts: 1360
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:12 pm
Location: Central Washington


Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 145 guests