the Government isn't anti religion... Islam is allowed in school...

[Shao Feng-Li]

...It's anti Christian

Dear God:
>
> Why didn't you save the school children at . . .
>
> Moses Lake, Washington 2/2/96
>
> Bethel, Alaska 2/19/97
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> Pearl, Mississippi 10/1/97
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> West Paducah, Kentucky 12/1/97
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> Stamps, Arkansas 12/15/97
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> Jonesboro, Arkansas 3/24/98
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> Edinboro, Pennsylvania 4/24/98
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> Fayetteville, Tennessee 5/19/98
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> Springfield, Oregon 5/21/98
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> Richmond, Virginia 6/15/98
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> Littleton, Colorado 4/20/99
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> Taber, Alberta, Canada 5/28/99
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> Conyers, Georgia 5/20/99
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> Deming, New Mexico 11/19/99
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> Fort Gibson, Oklahoma 12/6/99
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> Santee, California 3/5/01 and
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> El Cajon, California 3/22/01 ?
>
> Sincerely,
> Concerned Student
>
>
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> Reply:
>
> Dear Concerned Student:
>
> I am not allowed in schools.
>
> Sincerely,
> God
>
>
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>
> How did this get started....
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> Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare complained
>she didn't want any prayer in our schools.
> And we said, OK...
> ------------------
> Then, someone said you better not read the Bible in school, the Bible
>that says "thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your
>neighbors as yourself,"
> And we said, OK...
> -----------------
> Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they
>misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might
>damage their self-esteem.
> And we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we won't
>spank them anymore...
> ------------------
> Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
>children when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty
>member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we
>don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued...
> And we accepted their reasoning...
> ------------------
> Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they
>want, and they won't even have to tell their parents.
> And we said, that's a grand idea...
> ------------------
> Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and
>they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they
>want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell
>their parents they got them at school.
> And we said, that's another great idea...
> ------------------
> Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we
>do in private as long as we do our jobs.
> And we said, it doesn't matter what anybody, including the President,
>does in private as long as we have jobs and the economy is good...
> ------------------
> And someone else took that appreciation a step further and published
>pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them
>available on the Internet.
> And we said, everyone's entitled to free speech....
> ------------------
> And the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
>that promote profanity, violence and illicit sex... And let's record music
>that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.....
> And we said, it's just entertainment and it has no adverse effect and
>nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead...
> ------------------
>
> ------------------
> Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why
>they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill
>strangers, classmates or even themselves.
> ------------------
> Undoubtedly, if we thought about it long and hard enough, we could
>figure it out. I'm sure it has a great deal to do with...
> "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW,"

[Shao Feng-Li]

when it came to islam i was simply stating that the government isnt anti religious... and as christians we shouldnt "tolorate" any other religion I dont even think the bible says anything about tolorence... But my main point here is waht happenes when the church sits back and does nothing!!!! this is what happens when good men do nothing

[Shao Feng-Li]

all right ill calm down but i wont change my mind. this is the truth no doubt and the bible does say to do away with the wicked-or something to that matter (any other religion is a cult). im not trying to start a war here. but i wont let my brothers and sisters be unintelligent to these matters

[Danyasaur]

the bible does say to do away with the wicked-or something to that matter (any other religion is a cult).

yes but that doesn't mean we should be mean to them, otherwise we're just doing what the rest of the world is doing to us. besides, the bible says that we shoud love ALL people, not just the people that agree with us.

but I don't want to start a argument!, archy

[Straylight]

I agree. I also think respect for another's beliefs is ESSENTIAL if you stand any chance of witnessing. You do not rush up to them and hit them with a Bible.. you make friends instead.

Keep it down anyway, otherwise this thread will get locked.

[Shao Feng-Li]

yes but that doesn't mean we should be mean to them, otherwise we're just doing what the rest of the world is doing to us. besides, the bible says that we shoud love ALL people, not just the people that agree with us.

but I don't want to start a argument!, archy

i know i would never be mean to anyone... i dont think id ever go as far as i think david or jacob....(the guy who killed everyone men women and children cuz God told him too, but he left one alive) Hmm this is a rather touchy subject... and i have to be carefull because im not all that edjucated yet in the bible... But i am going with what i know as fact. we should love all people in the sense we have missionaries in africa and such but talorence...oh never mind

[Danyasaur]

*sigh* I'm not saying anything ellse otherwise this could break into an argument.

but think, how would YOU like not to be tolorated just because of your religon? you should respect other people's religon, that's all I'm saying, archy

[redkorn]

at my school we have a club called club 121 on tuesday morning before school, and we have devotions and sing hyms, we advertise around the school to get more kids too come but not many do, most ppl that come are the one that already go to my church or another church.

[cbwing0]

this is the truth no doubt and the bible does say to do away with the wicked-or something to that matter (any other religion is a cult).

I have a few problems with this if it is taken as national policy. First off, there are quite a few people in the church who I would not want to have deciding public policy (Jerry Falwell is a good example). They take their self-righteous stand, and then watch others to see whether they have discovered the same "truths" about morality.

My second problem is that the government should not make laws forcing people to conform to the tenets of Christianity. This is why prohibition wasn't a failure. It is hard enough for Christians to act in a Christian manner, so the government should not try to make everyone else follow that standard.

Then there is the problem of interpretation. Not everyone holds to the same interpretation of moral demands, even within Christianity. Who is to decide the "right" one? You can throw scripture around all you want, but the issue is more complex than that: people look at the same verse and see two different things.

I agree that you should respect the beliefs of others. Furthermore, I think it is important to know the beliefs of the different religions in the world so that you can form more effective approaches to witnessing. For example, certain "code words" (i.e., don't mention "authority" to a mormon unless you are prepared to get smacked with a canned answer) will set these people off, so you should know to avoid them while saying the same thing.

[Shao Feng-Li]

about the government: rememebr it was created in the first place to PROTECT the church. that was one thing that was wrong with our contitution that they didnt specify wich religion

[Shao Feng-Li]

*sigh* I'm not saying anything ellse otherwise this could break into an argument.

but think, how would YOU like not to be tolorated just because of your religon? you should respect other people's religon, that's all I'm saying, archy

IF you really stand up as a Christian you wont be tolorated. th w world will hate you wich is why we are in the world not OF it


PLEASE FORGIVE THE DOUBLE POST...oopsy

[Yoda47]

This sums it up nicely:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36149

[Shao Feng-Li]

hmm that's interesting yoda... goes right along with what ive been saying

[Mithrandir]

IF you really stand up as a Christian you wont be tolorated. th w world will hate you wich is why we are in the world not OF it

Question: If everyone in the world who was not a Christian hated us, would there be any new conversions?

Did everyone hate Jesus? Or Paul? What about Peter? I think you'll find the answer is no. What about Mother Theresa? Billy Grahm?

I don't think we need to be so worried about "standing up" that we don't walk forward. It's a question of respect. I MUST love and respect everyone. I can't always love and respect what they DO, however. Does this mean I stand on a street corner and preach at them? I'd have to say that if I were to do that, I don't think it would lead people to Christ. Respect for another person includes learning WHY they believe what they believe. It is NOT my responsiblity to change anyone's life. That's GOD'S job. Mine is to make people more receptive to him.

about the government: rememebr it was created in the first place to PROTECT the church. that was one thing that was wrong with our contitution that they didnt specify wich religion

No. Our government was most deffinately NOT setup for this reason. It was established to ELIMINATE religion from the govenment.

I was going to go on, but this is really becoming a debate.

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[Straylight]

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