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Postby Dante » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:32 pm

*yelling* WHAT KIND OF PERVERT DO YOU THINK I AM?!?!?!?!?!?! igot these from a WEBSITE i did not write these. as i said at first i was too lazy to EDIT i was meaning to say i did not write these.and how many boys would call themselves princess nine fanatic, hm?*normal voice* and to answer your questiaon ML i left out the what thought could get me banned just to be safe.


Apologizes, it was purely on a joking manner, (I actually thought is was just a hilarious typo to begin with), and the fact that you stated you edited it skipped my vision, nor was it strong enough to suggest that you had a source for your writings. But with this clarification we can now all rest assured that Anime Mute is indeed, a girl :lol: .

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Postby Kaori » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:51 pm

AnimeMute wrote:4Never miss an opportunity to tell them they're beautiful.

Sure, but you should be able to say something else about her besides that she is beautiful. If you only compliment her appearance, she may think that that is all you care about. I personally think that it would be far more meaningful to receive a compliment about my personality, intelligence, abilities, etc. than my physical appearance.

AnimeMute wrote:6If they slap you hard, you deserved it.
16Never, ever slap her, even if it's just in a joking way. Even if she swats you first, and says, "Oh, you're so dumb" or something, never make any gestures back.

Is it really wise to date a girl who is going to slap you around? There really shouldn't be violence on either side.

AnimeMute wrote:17Go to a chick flick once in a while. She doesn't care whether you enjoy it or not, it just matters that you went.

Only if she actually likes chick flicks] 20Don't be freaked out by PMS. It's not gross, and it really does make them feel like crap, so be understanding. [/quote]
Yes, but it's also important to not jump to conclusions about the cause of her bad mood. There are plenty of other things that can cause irritation (hunger, fatigue, annoying people) but for some reason, if a woman is having a bad day, people immediately jump to conclusions about where she is in the menstrual cycle--which is somewhat condescending.

AnimeMute wrote:25Girls are fragile.

Oh?

AnimeMute wrote:28Don't give her something stupid for her birthday or Christmas or Valentine's day. It doesn't have to be expensive, but it has to be meaningful. Jewelry is always nice.

Again, only if she actually likes jewelry. To me, jewelry sounds expensive and useless.
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Postby Alice » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:36 pm

I enjoyed reading it, and I like it, not because I think it's right on every detail, but because it encourages men to respect their girlfriends, and it seems to have taken some thought to write it. ^___^
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Postby Maledicte » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:03 am

Hmm, on buying gifts, jewelry can be relative. It doesn't have to be JEWELry jewelry--if she likes wearing iron crosses, beads, or anything relatively cheap, you can get her that. As long as it looks nice she'll like it. (or failing that, get some at your local thrift store. The answer for almost everything.)

"Always tell her she's beautiful."
Wouldn't that be tiresome after a while? There are so many other things to compliment--her choice of clothes, her manners, her sense of humor. Also, if you must comment on her beauty, be specific--"I like how your necklace brings out your eyes," etc. Saying "you're beautiful", while sweet, is kind of a blanket approach. Kind of like saying "Happy Holidays."

And if she wants to pay, let her pay, but the next time treat her out to a more expensive treat. Or if she opens the door for you, say "thanks" and get inside as quickly as possible instead of making her arm tired holding open the door. Recieve her gifts as enthusiastically as you want her to recieve yours.

Above all, TALK. Maybe she doesn't mind getting punched in the shoulder occasionally. Or maybe she's nervous about getting into fights. I know one girl who always wrestles with her fiancee. Other girls wouldn't dream about it. Or about chick flicks--talk about it with her. Maybe she avoids chick flicks and would much rather watch a sci-fi horror movie. This has to be made clear in the relationship what both of you expect out of it, and make compromises accordingly. An internet list doesn't cover the expectations of all women.
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Postby Alice » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:12 am

Yeah, hopefully, when I have a boyfriend, he won't try to give me too much jewelry. o.O For one thing, I'd feel bad if he wasted his money on it. For another, I barely ever wear jewelry, so it wouldn't be a very useful gift for me.
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Postby DaughterOfZion » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:50 am

what do you mean good post pascal?
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Postby chibiphonebooth » Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:30 am

yeah, i wouldnt want alot of jewlery either, concidering i lose it all the time. XD
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Postby Dante » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:07 am

what do you mean good post pascal?


I meant that I enjoyed it, thought it was funny and at the same time informative. Seeing as I have also posted on "I have never had a girlfriend" thread, maybe I should print it and devise my stratagem upon actually getting a girlfriend... Or maybe stratagizing about these things isn't the best idea :) .

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P.S. You're 13 years old and you're already waiting for a wedding ring? Waits for next volley of missiles and Apache helocopters due to misunderstanding a joke (and I thought I read that girls were better at reading feelings better than we were, I need to use more emoticons :lol: :eh: :thumb: :brow: :P .

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Postby Nate » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:34 am

Pascal wrote:P.S. You're 13 years old and you're already waiting for a wedding ring?

I wondered about that too... >.>;;
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Postby Bobtheduck » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:50 pm

Bunny wrote:If I may add a little bit of advice just out of personal experience:

Guys:
Do nothing to make her best friend despise you. Even if she is crazy about you and willing to defend you to whatever end, you really don't want to put her in that situation. It's miserable.


Hold the phone... Sometimes their friends hate you just because. As for the only girl I've ever been in love with, her roomate loathed me... Why? Because I hung out with her (the girl, not the roommate) and I was male... Nothing more... A lot of times girls that are good candidates for marriage have friends that are good candidates for shock therapy.

And "don't cheat" is just a given for guys or girls... It's just plain stupid, not because you can be caught, but because you think that you're even really going to get anything out of it... Stupid.
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Postby DaughterOfZion » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:06 am

Pascal wrote:P.S. You're 13 years old and you're already waiting for a wedding ring?

i say that meaning im not going to date until i meet The One god has planed for me
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Postby Arnobius » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:49 am

AnimeMute wrote:i say that meaning im not going to date until i meet The One god has planed for me

Not making fun of the idea, but how will you know?
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Postby Nate » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:51 am

I hear that a lot too, and find it's a much better idea in theory than in practice.

But hey, if you think you can succeed, more power to ya.
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Postby Scribs » Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:37 pm

AnimeMute wrote:i say that meaning im not going to date until i meet The One god has planed for me


I agree with what others have said. It may not be possible for you know if they are the one God has planned for you untill after you start dating. Maybe not even then. It isnt likely that one day you are suddenly going to meet some person, realise that they are perfect, start dating them and then get married without any failed dating experiences allong the way. While I think you shoud only date people who you would consider marrying, I dont think that you should limit yourself to only dating someone who you know you will marry. Dating is like a compatability test, seeing if you fit together, seeing if they are the person God has planned for you. If you dont get to know someone, how do you expect to know if they are the one?
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Postby Heart of Sword » Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:11 pm

If you dont get to know someone, how do you expect to know if they are the one?

Yeah I agree...but I've never really loved someone until now...so...I don't know what I'm doing, lol. I know quite a few people who met when they were teens and ended up getting married and are very happy together, like my father's friends, who were dating since they were in 8th grade and they got married in their 20s. And there is a young couple at church who courted throughout their teens and even had a long-distance relationship through letters, actually, it was REALLY long-distance...the guy was in America and the girl was in Iceland for quite a few years. They're married now; they're, I think, 18 and 20...I'm not sure. So relationships during teen years DO work out sometimes.
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Postby Nate » Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:37 pm

Heh...oh, sorry if I came off that way, Heart of Sword. ^^;; I didn't mean that such things can't happen. I knew a guy on the ship who met his wife when they were 16, and they were the only person each other had dated, and they're still married.

Such things DO happen. The thing is, they're the exception rather than the rule. That's why you hear about them so often, not because they're so common, but because they're so rare.

I just don't want to see anyone make a promise they might not be able to keep and then beat themselves up for it. I know a person who swore that the only person they'd date would be the one they married, and they literally tore themselves up and went into a deep state of depression because they said that. It's not a very realistic goal.

If God brings you such a thing, that's cool...but please don't limit God by saying "the only person I date will be my future spouse," because He might have other plans for you, okay? :D
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Postby K. Ayato » Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:04 pm

Yeah. I don't mean to ruin your hopes, but sometimes those who insist on waiting for God's choice end up missing him/her when he/she walks by into their lives. I encourage you on your decision to wait, but paraphrasing what kaemmerite said, don't go through this with a closed mind.
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Postby Kaligraphic » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:41 pm

soul alive wrote:Eh, my dad doesn't hide the fact that he owns several guns, and that we have several thousand acres of ranch to hide a body on. XDXD

As well he shouldn't. Plenty of guys can successfully deceive females - it's easy, really. Those chick flicks that guys complain about? They take notes in secret, because just about any girl these days has been successfully brainwashed to believe that the "perfect guy" acts like in those movies. Even if you don't admit it, they still greatly influence your thinking. We guys can see through that act much more easily - we know how to be properly suspicious. Not paranoid, just aware.

When a suitor comes to woo a girl, her father should be sitting out there cleaning his guns, having that "friendly conversation".

"You do realize, that she's my only daughter. Why, if anything happened to her, I don't know what I'd do..."

Or something along those lines. Guys have a right and a duty to protect those we care about - and more of us need to exercise that right.

(And yes, when my sister brings somebody back to meet the family, I will be sure to be there to meet him... and to give him the old "you break her heart, I break your face." After all, a little extra caution won't hurt him, and, well, if anyone was to hurt her, quite frankly, I would not hesitate to kick his *ss six ways from Sunday. That's what guys do - what we love, we protect.)




Here's another thing to know - before you date somebody, do a background check. What does it matter if they're attractive, if they drive like they're chasing death - at that rate, they won't be attractive near as long as someone who drives sensibly, all else being equal. (or at least, your hair won't turn gray as quickly.) Make sure that they make good decisions, have a worldview that's compatible with yours, and in general are a good match - before you even think about dating.

You put forth your best face when you're on a date - why wouldn't they do the same? They want you to like them the same way that you want them to like you. So, before you start, talk to their friends, their co-workers if you have access, get to know their family - and ask some of your own friends of their gender for opinions. (i.e. if you're a guy, ask some female friends, if you're a girl, ask male friends.) Guys know guys' tricks, and gals know gals' tricks.

If you buy a $10 stock, you'll research the company first - and you can always sell the stock later. (even if at a loss, you don't lose more than your investment.) With marriage, though, you risk a lot more of your assets, yet people rely solely on emotion to guide their decision - this is foolishness. It's a serious matter, and must be approached seriously, not treated like a game.
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Postby Swordguy » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:53 am

God can do all, and if it is lead you to your someone if you wait for Him than He will. I am not saying it is unlikly, but our God is a God of the unlikly, if you trust Him and have faith in Him that He will lead you to the person who is right for you, than He will. When we start doubting God we start boxing Him in. God is not stupid, if you turely have the faith He will lead your path.
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Postby soul alive » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:16 pm

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soul alive wrote:Eh, my dad doesn't hide the fact that he owns several guns, and that we have several thousand acres of ranch to hide a body on. XDXD


As well he shouldn't. Plenty of guys can successfully deceive females - it's easy, really. Those chick flicks that guys complain about? They take notes in secret, because just about any girl these days has been successfully brainwashed to believe that the "perfect guy" acts like in those movies. Even if you don't admit it, they still greatly influence your thinking. We guys can see through that act much more easily - we know how to be properly suspicious. Not paranoid, just aware.

When a suitor comes to woo a girl, her father should be sitting out there cleaning his guns, having that "friendly conversation".

"You do realize, that she's my only daughter. Why, if anything happened to her, I don't know what I'd do..."


He doesn't hide that fact. Lol. And he would definately protect me. Which I am grateful for. Luckily, I have a wonderful Christian boyfriend who not only respects and loves me but gets along with my family. I would definately never date a guy I barely knew, and who wasn't a Christian, and definately not bring him home to meet my parents.

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Postby Stephen » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:55 pm

Yamato wrote:First off, Shatterheart ... Spike did not say Butt ... lol



Which might have been why I wrote "..." *mock gasp* ;)
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Postby DaughterOfZion » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:42 pm

Swordguy wrote:God can do all, and if it is lead you to your someone if you wait for Him than He will. I am not saying it is unlikly, but our God is a God of the unlikly, if you trust Him and have faith in Him that He will lead you to the person who is right for you, than He will. When we start doubting God we start boxing Him in. God is not stupid, if you turely have the faith He will lead your path.

exactly my view swordguy. i have to trust god will help lead and guide me.heck im only 13 and im reading christian dating books.not so i can date now but so i can mature in my faith and hopefully have my heart prepared for the man god has planned for me. yes if i dont date i could possibly miss the guy god has planed for me, BUT if i only focus on dating and not in trying to get ready for the man god has planned for me and growing in my faith theres that chance ill never be ready for him when he comes along. plus i want to save my self for my future hubby. not just physiclay but my HEART.i dont want to pour my heart in soul into who i THINK is the one when he really isnt.
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Postby Nate » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:01 pm

AnimeMute, I don't think any of us are saying that you should focus solely on dating. That's ludicrous. God should be the focus of our lives, first and foremost.

BUT, you have to understand the purpose of dating. Dating is a test, a TEST, to see if two people are compatible for marriage. And the test may pass, or it may fail. But there's no shame if it fails.

You say, "I don't want to pour my heart and soul into a guy and think he's the one when he isn't." Then you refuse to love. Plain and simple. You CANNOT love someone if there is no option for rejection. Period. Why do you think God gave us the ability to reject the sacrifice Christ made for us? Because He knew that if we had no choice but to accept it, we'd be no more than His little robots. It wouldn't be real love.

How will you know which tests you will pass unless you take them? Dating's the same way. What I'm trying to avoid here, AnimeMute, is you meeting some guy, saying, "God led me to him, so he must be the one," and then he breaks your heart and you feel like somehow you have failed God.

I am speaking from EXPERIENCE. I'm 25, and I've had a lot more experience than you. I'm not saying that in an insulting way. But I don't want you to meet someone and think, "This is the one, God rewarded me" and then it turns out to not be the case, okay? I don't want you to beat yourself up like I have been doing for the past 8 months.

Like I said. DO NOT LIMIT GOD. He may bring you an absolutely horrible guy who will stomp all over your heart...but know what? He's doing it for HIS purposes. Not yours. To say "I won't date anyone except who I'll marry" is NOT allowing God to work in your life.

Instead of saying "My will be done, God" why don't you try saying, "YOUR will be done?" Trust me, it works a whole lot better. God may have plans you cannot even imagine, which may result in you dating guys who are not your spouse, but it's only gonna turn out bad for you if you reject His plans, okay?

I know, I know. You're 13, you think you know everything, and that's fine. I was 13 once too, you know. But I'll pray that God will open your eyes and you will be more receptive to His will as you grow and mature in His love.

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Postby Scribs » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:33 pm

I second all that Kae has said.
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Postby taboo » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:11 pm

Aww, guys are so sweet. =^^=

2Don't cheat on them. It may seem foolproof, but girls tell each other everything about everything. Trust me, they WILL find out and you will be mad.
Yes, yes. My girlfriends and I talk ALOT about our boyfriends/potential boyfriends. I hate to say it, but the friends are important.
3Beware of every single male relatives and all guy friends. Any of them would kick your butt at the drop of a hat, and a lot of them wouldn't even wait for the dang hat.
That's true too. My dad has guns, and has been known for throwing rocks at strays in the front yard.
5Don't refuse to kiss in front of your friends. If they laugh at you, it's because they're jealous.
Do guys really get embarassed by that? I'd make the kiss extra hot then. >:3
6If they slap you hard, you deserved it.
Some girls can be total butts so I disagree with this one to some extent.
14If a guy is bothering her, it is your right to kick the crap out of him.
Um... make sure the guy is really bothering her and not just talking or something.
17Go to a chick flick once in a while. She doesn't care whether you enjoy it or not, it just matters that you went.
Although, I know a fair few who would go to a 'man flick' as well. xD
18You're dead meat if you can't get along with their pets, parents and best friends. Be prince charming to their friends, Mr. Polite to their parents, and make sure to be nice to their animals.
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20Don't be freaked out by PMS. It's not gross, and it really does make them feel like crap, so be understanding.
True, true. *sigh* PMS is definetally something we enjoy going through.


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Postby DaughterOfZion » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:14 pm

yes im thirteen but i know i dont know everything. i really know nothing about life.
when i say im not gonna date, at least not at this age any ways i mean im gonna let god prepare me and not date UNLESS i feel it is gods will.
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Postby Doubleshadow » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:19 pm

My thoughts.

1Whatever you do, don't just show up at their house. They run around in their underwear just like we do.
I definately do not.

2Don't cheat on them. It may seem foolproof, but girls tell each other everything about everything. Trust me, they WILL find out and you will be mad.
Getting caught should not be the only motivation for showing her faithfulness and respect even in her absence.

3Beware of every single male relatives and all guy friends. Any of them would kick your butt at the drop of a hat, and a lot of them wouldn't even wait for the dang hat.
Mas o menos. My Dad once assured me if I ever got involved with a man who abused me, I had my Dad, two uncles, two cousins, and a brother who'd fix the problem. The knowledge they care is comforting, the knowledge they would risk prison for me is not-so-comforting.

4Never miss an opportunity to tell them they're beautiful.
I wouldn't believe him. I'm very skeptical. :lol:

5Don't refuse to kiss in front of your friends. If they laugh at you, it's because they're jealous.
I wouldn't kiss him in front of just anybody. I'm bashful, so he just might be as well.

6If they slap you hard, you deserved it.
I don't want him to hit me, I won't hit him, unless something HUGE happens. Treat others they way you want to be treated.

10Not all of them eat like birds, a lot of them can eat like whales.
I have my moments, especially when it's Chinese.

11Most of them don't mind paying half of everything, but they do discuss these things with their friends. Realize that if you make your girlfriend pay half all the time, everyone will know about it and your friends will know you're a *****.
Casual dates, sure go dutch. But if you want to get more serious than that, you had very well have enough money to cover both meals.

13Make sure she gets home safely as often as you can. If you're dropping her off, walk her to the door. If you aren't dropping her off, call to be sure she's home safely.
Ding ding ding! My favorite! One of God's roles for men, at least I think so, is as a protector. If you cannot keep her safe if something happens, do not have her put her well-being in your hands. I'm not quite 5'5, 95 lbs., and most of my male friends can hold both my wrists in one hand. If I have to defend myself in a real fight, I will get hurt. I have no illusions about that.

14If a guy is bothering her, it is your right to kick the crap out of him.
Maybe not to that extreme, but some considerate intervention would be nice.

15If you're talking to a female friend of yours, pull your girlfriend closer.
Nah... But that is personal taste.

16Never, ever slap her, even if it's just in a joking way. Even if she swats you first, and says, "Oh, you're so dumb" or something, never make any gestures back.
Again, treat others the way you want to be treated. Men should not hit women, but that's a two way street.

17Go to a chick flick once in a while. She doesn't care whether you enjoy it or not, it just matters that you went.
Why make the poor guy suffer? Do something else together and go to chick flicks with other chicks.

18You're dead meat if you can't get along with their pets, parents and best friends. Be prince charming to their friends, Mr. Polite to their parents, and make sure to be nice to their animals.
There is a major underapreciation for manners, consideration, and deference in general it seems in at least my neck of the woods. I genuinely try to be a lady, I would expect him to genuinely try to be a gentlemen.

20Don't be freaked out by PMS. It's not gross, and it really does make them feel like crap, so be understanding.
Indeed. I get flu-like symptoms sometimes. Would you rag on a sick friend for being short-tempered?

21If you don't like the way they drive, you do it.
Ditto.

22If you're officially dating, and you're introducing her to your friends, you'd better dang well introduce her as your girlfriend.
Only if their lacking that knowledge could lead to trouble. Otherwise, I don't see why.

23Don't stress where you go for every date. They really only want to be with you.
Yes, except for common sense. Don't expect her to just be happy that she is with you if she is somewhere you know she hates. Especially if she knows you know she hates it.

25Girls are fragile. Even if you're play fighting/wrestling, be very gentle.
True for me at least. I appreciate the care.

26Memorize their birthdays. U forget her birthday and U'rebasically screwed for life.
I forget my own parents birthdays. It varies by individual.

27Don't marinade the cologne.
YES. Don't asphyxiate your date.

28Don't give her something stupid for her birthday or Christmas or Valentine's day. It doesn't have to be expensive, but it has to be meaningful. Jewelry is always nice.
Yes. Who wants a gift that clearly says, "I got you this out of obligation"?

29If you think the relationship isn't going to last, don't wait to find out. It will only hurt u more if u draw it out.
Hmm. I would gather more evidence than just "you think" before you make a descision.

30After you've been dating for a while, realize that they really have started to trust you. When you have a girlfriend who truly trusts u, u have a lot more responsibility, privilege and control than u would think. Be careful with it, most guys would kill for that kind of power, and it can be lost in a nanosecond.
True. This is possibly a gender thing, but for me at least, betrayl or constant failure by someone I care for and trust enough to actual call a boyfriend would hurt more than simply being betrayed or failed by a friend.

31Don't ever do anything wrong (well not anything). girls remember things for life and anything you did wrong will be brought back in every argument that you will have in the future.
Depends. A one time incident is a far cry from a habitual attitude or behavior.
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Postby DaughterOfZion » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:22 pm

also i might not date date but im VERY open to courting
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Postby DaughterOfZion » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:29 pm

kaemmerite wrote:You say, "I don't want to pour my heart and soul into a guy and think he's the one when he isn't." Then you refuse to love. Plain and simple. You CANNOT love someone if there is no option for rejection. Period. \

thats not what i mean. i dont mean im not going to keep my ALL my love from him. i mean im not going to give everything.im not going to tell him every little thing, every little hope,dream and fear right of the bat. i know thats probably not what you mean but still.
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