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Happy Metric Day!

Postby Ingemar » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:58 pm

It's the tenth day of the tenth month...

...for those of you still in Mountain and Pacific time.
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Postby livewire » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:11 pm

What is metric day?
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Postby Mithrandir » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:34 am

You didn't do it at 10:10:10. Shame on you.


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Postby Ingemar » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:09 am

It doesn't matter anymore, since it's the 11th.
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Postby Espoir » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:45 am

:lol:
total dorks
hehehe
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Postby mitsuki lover » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:40 pm

Actually it would have been geekier if he had posted it on
10/10 at 10:10:10 or even geekier still if it had been five years from now since then he could have posted on 10/10/10 at 10:10:10
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Postby blkmage » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:20 pm

Canada and the rest of the world use the metric system.
So should you.
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Postby Mithrandir » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:00 pm

In Soviet Russia, the metric system uses YOU!
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Postby Mangafanatic » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:02 pm

*Stabs Metric Day with a yard stick.*
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Ingemar » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:12 pm

blkmage wrote:Canada and the rest of the world use the metric system.
So should you.

If the rest of the world jumped off a cliff--well, you get the idea.
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Postby blkmage » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:12 pm

The Imperial system never did make sense to me. I mean, 12 inches in a feet? I remember being down in the States and seeing on the highway "3/4 miles" til some exit and going "how in bloody hell do you tell it's been 3/4 miles?"

Oh and physics. Wow, thrown in feet into a problem and it adds twice the stress. Acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 metres per second per second (m/s/s). Not so in feet. It's some crazy number like 32.2 feet per second per second (ft/s/s). Talk about crazy world.

Anyway, /me stabs English system with a metre stick.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:39 pm

I hate the metric system.We had to learn it when I was in Junior High.Needless to say that was the worse semester of math I ever had as I flunked every quarter
we had it.
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Postby TurkishMonky » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:54 pm

i love the english system... it's so random (however, whoever inented the computer's metric was random too - 1024 b in a kb? must of been an american trying to use the metric system, but getting two feet mixed up in there somewhere.)
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Postby Arnobius » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:50 pm

The good old metric system... where the units of measurement are too small or too large to use conveniently.

Not to mention the entirely useless units between the meter and the kilometer we were forced to memorize micro milli centi deci --- deka hecka hella kilo mega... almost none of them used.

At least with the English system you have units that are reasonable in measure if not in division
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Postby Warrior4Christ » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:45 am

deka, hecka, hella, and to a lesser extent, deci, are unheard of in the real world usage.

But metric system = GOOD.

(1024 was chosen because it was a power of 2 that was "a good approximation" to 1000.)
Everywhere like such as, and MOES.

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Postby Hephzibah » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:59 am

I've gotta jump in here and say that the metric system is so much better than the imperial.
1) It is easy to calculate
2) It's in units of 10... you dont have to memorise all these different numbers
3) It's used in Australia, hence it must be good
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how did that last one get in there? :eyebrow: :grin:
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Postby Sammy Boy » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:49 am

Talame, I am sure our American friends would agree with us on no.3 of your points. LOL.

I have an Australian astronomer friend who now works in America. He spends part of his spare time trying to convince Americans to use the metric system instead. The world needs more people like him! :)
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Postby TurkishMonky » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:23 am

Warrior4Christ wrote:(1024 was chosen because it was a power of 2 that was "a good approximation" to 1000.)

i know, just joking around... it just strikes me as funny when usb drives advertize as 1 GB when the're really more like 1000 MB, but on the back it says (1 GB = 1000 MB, although their 1 MB is calculated as 1024 kb...)

anywho, i live close enough to canada to have their money mixed up with ours in my change, so metric is good too! (you can go so much faster when driving!!!!)
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Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:04 pm

From my own expeirence I can testify that the metrics system was simply created to make the math lives of American Junior High students in the
'70s miserably worse than they were. :shake:
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Postby Technomancer » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:06 pm

1 inch
1 foot = 12 inches
1 yard = 3 feet
1 rod, pole or perch = 5½ yards
1 chain = 4 poles
1 link = 1/100 chain
1 furlong = 10 chains
1 mile = 8 furlongs (I'm not sure if this is statue miles or nautical miles)
1 league = 3 miles


'Nuff said.
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Postby Eriana » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:36 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:*Stabs Metric Day with a yard stick.*


lol! :lol:
I'm not to good at knowing this sort of thing so please excuse the confusing posts. ^^;;;
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Postby Arnobius » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:44 pm

Well just like you guys ignore the useless parts of the metric system, we ignore most of the ones you listed

Besides I can calculate roughly in my head.

And a foot is much more useful than a centimeter for understanding distances

6'7" (my height) is easier to visualize than 2.0066m

However, for some real confusing conversions, see http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_all.htm

where we can learn that 1 feet [international, U.S.] = 1.0940416 pie [Spanish]
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Postby Eriana » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:23 pm

I'm 5'5" how tall would that make me in all exactness? ^^;;;
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Postby Arnobius » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:52 pm

[quote="Eriana"]I'm 5'5" how tall would that make me in all exactness? ^^]
1.651 meters. Since a Meter is about 39.37 inches, we can see it's a bit too long as a reasonable measure

and at centimeters. you're 165.1cm (2.54 cm/inch)

So either way, measuring in feet and inches is easier to get a useful measurement
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Postby Eriana » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:58 pm

Hmm. Interesting, thanks AnimeHeretic! I've always wanted to know that! ^_~*
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Postby Arnobius » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:08 pm

Eriana wrote:Hmm. Interesting, thanks AnimeHeretic! I've always wanted to know that! ^_~*
Hey i don't mean to be weird and off topic but do you like Halo? ^^

I get the motion sickness from playing FPS, which is a pity since watching the game, it looks amazing.
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Postby Hephzibah » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:20 pm

AnimeHeretic wrote:Besides I can calculate roughly in my head.

And a foot is much more useful than a centimeter for understanding distances

That is only because you have grown up with it. I can understand distances and speed only by looking at the kilometers or km/h.

The issue of growing up with a system of measurement aside, metric system is alot more logical and understandable (I had to use the imperial system when I was a kid as well as metric... metric is so much easier)
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Postby Arnobius » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:28 pm

Talame wrote:That is only because you have grown up with it. I can understand distances and speed only by looking at the kilometers or km/h.

The issue of growing up with a system of measurement aside, metric system is alot more logical and understandable (I had to use the imperial system when I was a kid as well as metric... metric is so much easier)

Actually I meant convert English to metric. I wouldn't be helpless in the rest of the world, I just prefer the English system.

And the metric system is a bit arbitrary: The English system evolved from previously established units that were standardised. The Metric system came out of nowhere, with arbitrarily sized units. Yes it is logically measured in units of 10, but few of them are convenient in size.

They tried to convert in the 1970's, but they couldn't answer the question: Why?

Because nobody has come up with a reasonable answer, metrics in the US failed.
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Postby Technomancer » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:36 pm

AnimeHeretic wrote:
Yes it is logically measured in units of 10, but few of them are convenient in size.


The metre was originally designated to be some fractional power of 10 of the distance from the pole to the equator, so there was actually a basis. Unfortunately, this turned out to be incorrect due to the imprecise surveying methods available at the time. That said, there is a real need for an international system of weights and measures, and metric provides this. Remember, at the time there were differences in the systems used in every region; the Imperial measures were just one of many.
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Postby Mithrandir » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:11 pm

For a fun time, ask 10 different american physists what a "meter" represents. :lol:



You think I'm kidding. I used to work with a bunch of american born physicists and electrical engineers. They were fun in a I'm-smarter-than-you kinda way. The invited me to a LAN party once. ONLY once. heh.
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