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Postby That Dude » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:16 pm

I got it...It's pretty stinkin neato. It's different from all their other stuff but it's still uniquely P86. "Cavity King" is a rock your face off song.
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Postby Kkun » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:26 pm

Cavity King is great. I also love Necktie Remedy, From December, Wordsmith Legacy (Spoken and spoken and spoken and spoken and spoken!), and The Hand, The Furnace, The Straight Face. This CD is greaaaat. My friend made a good point today when we were talking about the inevitable comparisons to Drawing Black Lines that will be made,and he said that this album is no Drawing Black Lines.....and yet it doesn't have to be. This is And the Rest Will Follow....and it's darn good in its own right.
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Postby Stephen » Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:18 pm

Bah, I spent all my money on a date Sunday and forgot about saving cash for this. Once more chicks come before music I guess....Thursday I get paid, I will be picking this up.
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Postby Kkun » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:00 pm

Chicks before music is a totally valid excuse. XD

Can't wait to hear your opinion on it, Steve. I think you'll like it.
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Postby Stephen » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:15 am

I should have it Thursday. As long as the local walmart has it. Or it will be lit a flame.
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Postby Kkun » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:33 am

I've wanted to burn Wal-Mart to the ground for that reason, and others, before.
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Postby That Dude » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:39 am

I got it at Best Buy on sale for $10 dollars. And you're right Kkun, this is a great CD in it's own right. I think all their CD's are great except Truthless Heros. Which is still good but not as good as any of their other CD's...
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Postby Kkun » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:23 am

That Dude wrote:I got it at Best Buy on sale for $10 dollars. And you're right Kkun, this is a great CD in it's own right. I think all their CD's are great except Truthless Heros. Which is still good but not as good as any of their other CD's...



Truthless Heroes is an interesting case. It's probably my next to last favorite Project album (last being their first album) but because it's kind of um...depressing? Sad? I don't listen to it that much. However, it has some of my favorite Project 86 songs, I think. Little Green Men, Soma, Last Meal, and Hollow Again all readily come to mind. TH was just different, personally. Not really worse...just different.
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Postby glitch1501 » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:02 pm

gah, i hope i can find 10 dollars on the ground by saturday :)

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Postby That Dude » Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:28 am

That's true Kkun...But it was a huge dissapointment to me when I first got it...I was looking forward to another "Drawing Black Lines." I like TH now but it wasn't what I was expecting when I got it.
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Postby Stephen » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:18 pm

I got it today. I will drop my feelings on the album shortly. I am a huge P86 fan...so I will be opinionated on the matter thats for sure.
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Postby That Dude » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:08 pm

I'll be looking forward to your take on it.
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Postby Stephen » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:34 pm

Ok. I just finished listening to this. I gotta say, this is the strangest P86 CD to date. Yes, even odder then Truthless Heroes. The use of a piano shocked me to be honost. I never expected it from P86. The songs are such a weird hodge podge mix of sound...I like it. I think its a brave new change for the band...much in the vein of Truthless Heroes. Now, that being said. One question always comes up when a new P86 CD comes out. Is it better then Drawing Black Lines? Heck no. Shut up, move on, and live past it. It was an amazing CD...but the band changes like people do. Its a new album, its a new sound, but the same old Shwab. Or however he spells his name. All in all I give this CD 4/5 A good new album.
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Postby That Dude » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:41 pm

That's cool. Actually I had about the same ideas on it...I don't think that it's stranger than Truthless Heros though...
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Postby Stephen » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:19 pm

People got all weird about TH. It was very much a fun album. I diden't get the depressing vibe off it like others did though...It was just kinda weird lol.
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Postby That Dude » Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:00 pm

I didn't get the depressing vibe either...I was just really dissapointed when I first got it because it was so much softer than what I was expecting.
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Postby glitch1501 » Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:37 am

YAY i just got the new pj86 album, I LOVE IT, its no DBL of course, but i would say its second !!! :)

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Postby glitch1501 » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:37 am

ok, after much deliberation, i have decided that "...And The Rest Will Follow" is now my absolute favorite project86 cd (dont hate :))

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Postby That Dude » Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:17 pm

I don't quite agree with you but I don't hate you. And this new one is definately awesome.
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Postby meboeck » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:18 pm

Yay! I'm gonna see Project in concert on Thursday! It's gonna be way awesome!
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Postby glitch1501 » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:42 pm

well, since i love this cd, i decided to make a wallpaper for it, so here ya go

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Postby That Dude » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:58 am

That's quite good Glitch!
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:38 pm

I saw the aforementioned Project show in Lancaster, PA Thursday night and was quite surprised to see Meboeck there (I hadn't read his post on page 5). It was an awesome show. My vocal chords were totally jacked on Friday and on Saturday I sounded like a 14-year-old boy (my hearing took equally as long to fully recover). And it was all the more awesome for being able to rock out with Nathan as well as the friends that I came with. :rock:
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Postby That Dude » Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:46 am

Man...I wish I could see P86 live...I've missed them everytime that they've been in my town.
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Postby Zilch » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:41 pm

Hey, have you guys looked at the lyrics for "All of Me"? It almost seems like Schwab is apologizing for his recent depressing turn in song writing. I mean, yeah, P86 has always had a darker tone, but recent albums(TH and Songs To Burn Your Bridges By) have been much darker than usual. It also seems like a cry of repentence. But hey, that's just my thoughts. Yours?
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Postby Stephen » Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:21 pm

I think each album has told a story. Like life, not every story is a happy one. TH told one of the more honost open storys of all there albums. But, unlike many P86 fans I talk to...I just don't see the "depressing turn in song writing" I fail to see it at all.
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Postby Kkun » Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:56 pm

I just got back from Project.

WOW.
WOW.
WOW.

Wow.

That was one of the best shows I've been to in a long time. Project and Spoken tore the house down. I'll talk more about it later.
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Postby Kkun » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:11 am

Shatterheart wrote:I think each album has told a story. Like life, not every story is a happy one. TH told one of the more honost open storys of all there albums. But, unlike many P86 fans I talk to...I just don't see the "depressing turn in song writing" I fail to see it at all.


I don't think they were depressing, so much as sad, which is very different. Andrew was very honest in Drawing Black Lines, Truthless Heroes and Songs To Burn Your Bridges By, pointing out and attacking the damaging effects of pornography, herd mentality, selling out your values, becoming a mindless drone of the corporate world, betrayal, deceit, child molestation and other nasty things but as Andrew has said before, he doesn't want to be known as a positive band but an honest band and on some level, I really appreciate that. While I may not agree with him all the time, he has guts to say what he says.
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Postby That Dude » Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:48 am

Yeah I've never really found their lyrics that depressing...I think that they are pretty dark and brutally honest but I haven't noticed a more depressing turn in their lyrics. I have noticed that a few of their songs are darker like "Suix Lane Spirits" and "Cavity King." But if you look at their older stuff it isn't really much darker than say..."Chimes" or "Stalemate."
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Postby Stephen » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:40 pm

Yeah...I was gonna bring up Stalemate...which, btw is an awesome song.
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