Jesus is coming again soon...

[Artist4Jesus89]

Hey all i was watching Jack van Impe presents and i have realized more than ever before Jesus is coming again soon in the bible i know it says something about the waters before he returns and the waters are VERY active now so i beleive that we are now in the final days now i hope you know that im not saying i know because as you know noone but God knows so yeah ne ways i just felt like posting this what are your thoughts?

[Slater]

lol...

The Bible says that nobody in heaven and earth will know when the final days are. Says that it's gonna be out of the blue; His coming back's gonna be like a thief in the night.

The more we guess about when he's coming back, the more we're gonna be wrong and have to wait...

[Zane]

Like frwl, and many more people will say (I presume), no one knows when JC will return, sure we are closer to his return then the 1st century christians. But God will return like a thief in the night, so act today as if he were to return anytime.

[edit] oh and I see I absent-mindly used the same quote as you.

[CephasWhite]

I agree. I have to say that we are in the final days due to things being allowed in this world:

First there was the love of sports
Next was the allowment of homosexuality
and soon it will be the use of pedophilia (PM me if you want to know what this is)

Frwl's right in saying that we shouldn't worry and try to figure out what day Jesus is coming, or just plainly focus on his return. Just be ready.

[Hephzibah]

Yes, we don't know when he is coming back... but He still warns us to be watchful. Just because we dont know the day He will return, we can still look at the prophesies and see that it is drawing near.

[CephasWhite]

Yep, exactly, Talame.

[Slater]

I kinda liked the possible prophecy that one of the GoRGs brought up... http://www.guildofredeemedgamers.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1242

Maybe...

[bigsleepj]

Someone once said (I forgot who) that if he knew Christ was coming tommorow he'd plant a tree today. This phrase was meant to be a parable of sorts, actually. What he was trying to say is that all Christians should remember that, although Christ is coming we shouldn't give up on the world and the people in it. Off course we must live like Christ is coming tommorow but should remember that His Will is still possible not yet fullfilled and that it could still be a long time. We should try to live for today and help non-CHristians rather than just saying "Its all going to end soon - why bother?"

And before this gets rather eschatological, I would like to say something a pastor once told me. "Christians should never read their newspapers with their Bibles next to them."

[Bobtheduck]

For my opinion on end-times mania, PM me as it would DEFINATELY be a Theological debate...

[Fsiphskilm]

If you guys take a look at your history books.

Everytime Someone says the "End is Near", nothing happens for at least 200+ years.

Many famous people have made claims over and over of when the world was going to end. Making Calculations, decrypting scripture. The first end of world prediction was long before all these Natural Disasters started.

Jesus said "The end will not come until all of these things are to pass" (talking about natural disasters, wars, prophecies, scripture coming true).

The end is not near. It's far away. There's still TONS of things that are suppose to happen, and I doubt the world will end in My life-time. There's still time to save the lost.

[Hephzibah]

I strongly disagree, I believe it is nearer than we think. Yes, there are alot of things that are supposed to come to pass that haven't yet, but such things won't take forever to be accomplished. They might take only a few years!
In the end, it is best to prepare as if He comes today or tomorrow, yet not be hesitant to begin works for Him.

Also, in regards to a view I have come across a fair bit lately of how we shouldn't bother studying the world in relation to end time prophesy because 'noone knows the day or time' [not saying anyone here is saying this]. The way I view it, by looking at the state of the world and comparing it to the prophesies, it reminds us that time is running out and that we shouldn't waste this time on ourselves, rather use it to train ourselves in His way and to reach out to the lost with a renewed urgency. Such study won't discourage us or make us paranoid, rather it will empassion us and remind us that everything is going to happen (and is happening) according to God's plan

[The Grammarian]

Actually, as Peter points out in Acts 2, the Last Days started with the first Pentecost. We have been in the Last Days for nearly 2000 years. "And in the last days, says the Lord, I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy" (paraphrase).

[TheMelodyMaker]

*sigh* Indeed, what a wonderful day it will be when He comes again. Not only will we get to see Him for the very first time, but we'll all get to meet each other too! *________*

[Myoti]

You've got to remember that with God, time is nothing. "Soon" could mean anywhere from now to a million years into the future, though I'd say we're closer to it (we're closer than we were, anyways).

[Dunedan]

Well, mostimportant to remember is that no man knows the times and dates God has set by his own authority, so it doesn't really matteer whether we are pre-or mid-tribulation, but I think it goes without saying that we are not already past the tribulation.

The important thing is that Christ is coming back, and I think it would be funny if he defied Jack van Impe's logic completely.

[Scribs]

agree. I have to say that we are in the final days due to things being allowed in this world:

First there was the love of sports

I am not sure of where you are getting this from biblically, but the anchient romans loved sports, so that is not nessisarily a sign that the end is coming.

Next was the allowment of homosexuality

Homosexuality ran rampent in ancient times as well

and soon it will be the use of pedophilia (PM me if you want to know what this is)

I am no expert, but I think that this has been around for a while too. BTW, could you tell me what scriptural refference lists these three things as signs of the end of the age, I dont think I am familiar with whatever verse it is you are using.

I take all of these "this sign means that the end is near!" reports with a grain of salt. As it has already been said, when Jesus comes noone will be expecting it. It could happen befor I post this, I may be dead by the time the rapture comes, but that is not important. The only important thing is that we all be ready, whether it comes in our lifetime or not.

[glitch1501]

remember five iron frenzy said the end is near...then they said the end is here...lol, are we aloud to talk about this?

[Kkun]

remember five iron frenzy said the end is near...then they said the end is here...lol, are we aloud to talk about this?

Once again, Glitch is put into my "Heroes" list.

Good one, because I was about to say the same thing. XD

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I've always had that weird thought that "The world will end soon" or something

[Mangafanatic]

Someone once said (I forgot who) that if he knew Christ was coming tommorow he'd plant a tree today.

That was Martin Luther. Why I know that-- I'm not sure.

My thoughts on this are as follows:

Think back in history. Pompei was completely obliterated by a volcano of horrific magnitude. The black plague killed 1/3 of Europe's population. Krakatoa a volcano in the Indonesia Island erupted in the early 1800's destroying 2/3 of the insland it was located on, killing an estimated 23,000 people, and creating a sound so loud that it was reportedly heard by people on the Australian continent. In 1954, Hurricans Carol and Edna both struck the same mid-Atlantic coast region just 10 days apart. Both hurricanes weighed in at category 3 (Carol was recorded at one point to have winds which would have qualified it as a category 4, but they weren't wide spread).

The head of the hurricane center said that the United States always experiences a 10-20 year cycle of unactive hurrican patterns and then devistating frequent hurricans. It's been happening since the dawn of recorded weather.

That's all just to say-- these things happen. We'll all fall prey to chicken little syndrome if every hurrican hails the end of the world. End of the world or not (personally, I think it's gonna get A LOT worse before then, but, that's just my two yen), we should live every day to its fullest, follow God's will, and not worry about it. So long as we're accomplishing his plan, there's really no need to fret about it.

Really,

[CephasWhite]

That's right Osaka. *hug*

Love the life your in now and live the way God wants you to live.

[Artist4Jesus89]

well the reason why i say this is because i feel like we are near in my spirit some of you probably feel it too but i dont beleive that if we say he is coming soon he will wait for another hundred years he has an EXACT date and i doubt he changes that.
There hasnt been this many signs fullfilled like they are being fullifilled today.
and i agree with cephas

[Shao Feng-Li]

While I don't know a lot about "end times" I still have reason to belive it won't happen for 1000+ years, and I hear Armageddon isn't too far off (Within 100 years). *shrug* I'm more just waiting to see what will happen.

[Nate]

well the reason why i say this is because i feel like we are near in my spirit

I don't rely on my heart, because the human heart is too easily fooled by things. Also, as many others have pointed out, no one knows the day except the Father in Heaven. The warnings of the end have already been pointed out in Revelation, and if "hints" were given to people, it wouldn't be like a thief in the night, would it?

If a thief put a note on your house that said, "I'm going to rob you sometime in the next month," it wouldn't be a surprise, would it?

God's not going to tell us when He's coming back. He's not even going to give us a clue.

i dont beleive that if we say he is coming soon he will wait for another hundred years he has an EXACT date and i doubt he changes that.

Right. He does have an exact date. But no one knows what it is. It hasn't changed. Just people's "feelings" about when it would happen were wrong. And He IS coming soon.

But you know what? He was coming soon 1,900 years ago, too. "Soon" is a vague and relative term.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. - 2 Peter 3:8 and some of 9

"Soon" to God is different from "soon" to humans.

There hasnt been this many signs fullfilled like they are being fullifilled today.

Actually, preterists would completely disagree with you, since they believe all the prophecies of the end times in Revelation were fulfilled before 70 AD. But that's not a discussion for this site.

I'm not concerned with the Second Coming. Whenever He comes, He comes, and if it's in my lifetime, cool. I don't think it will be, but if it is, that's pretty awesome.

[Scribs]

Kae, you have summed it up very nicely. Thank you.

[starfire]

I find it interesting that some people think that the world is more evil now than it ever has been. It's as the saying goes, "There's nothing new under the sun." As long as people have been around, there has been deception, murder, and lust. In fact, the times we live in today are much more tame compared to the times of the Old Testament. Look at Judges if you have any doubts. Think about it, at one point the people's deeds were so hideous that God had to destroy the entire earth with a flood.
I'm not saying that the end times aren't near. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Isaiah 2:1-5 talks about how "In the last days the mountain of the Lord's temple will be established as chief among the mountains;it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream into it." I take that to mean that many people will come to Christ before the end. Again, if I'm taking that out of context, feel free to say so.
Regardless, many signs do seem to be in place. But we shouldn't believe everything we hear. The Bible says that in the last days many false prophets will come to deceive the nations. If it's the true Word of God, it will come true.
If the end is on your mind, maybe God is trying to tell you something. Is there something in your life that needs to change before he comes? I know that's happened to me. I would advise praying about it and asking him for wisdom as to what needs to be done.

[Debitt]

I find it interesting that some people think that the world is more evil now than it ever has been. It's as the saying goes, "There's nothing new under the sun." As long as people have been around, there has been deception, murder, and lust. In fact, the times we live in today are much more tame compared to the times of the Old Testament. Look at Judges if you have any doubts. Think about it, at one point the people's deeds were so hideous that God had to destroy the entire earth with a flood.

Agreed. Some "current" issues (sanctity of marriage, disasters, etc.) aren't as current as we think - Osaka cited some good examples of seemingly apocalyptic occurances, and none of those have heralded the end times (from the perspective of a finite human life). Homosexuality, rape, murder, persecution, discrimination - it's all been going on thousands of years before. As people say, history repeats itself.

Personally, though I know I should be "ready" because the end could come any day, it's not something I meditate on. I have this little card that I got on a school trip once that says "Live as though Jesus died yesterday, was buried today, and is coming back tomorrow." Every day we should be living for Him - I don't think the approaching end of the world should have any influence on our behavior as Christians, because we should be trying to live to His standards day to day.

At any rate, no one knows and people have been shouting "It's the end of the world" for eons now, and I don't think any human being alive has any ablility to foresee exactly when that's going to happen.

[mitsuki lover]

This is an interesting topic.May I just say that I happen to be a
Postmillennial Preterist?
Not all Preterist agree.Some believe that the Bible prophecies were only
partially fulfilled in AD70 and others believe in total fulfillment.
I won't tell you which camp I'm in though as I don't want to start anything
here.
btw:Did you know most Postmillennialists are either Preterists or Historicists?
There are also about four ways of interpreting Revelation:
Literalist:This is where you find Dispensationlists.
Preterist:Past Fulfillment either totally or partially.
Historicist:Revelation is symbolic of total Church history.
Idealist:Revelation is symbolic of universal ideals such as good versus evil.

[Michael]

The Bible says that nobody in heaven and earth will know when the final days are.

If it even takes it further. Even Christ said He didn't know. I can produce the verse if need be, but the fact is, it could be 5 minutes from now or 5,000 years. We have to watch and pray as we are commanded to.

[ShiroiHikari]

I don't rely on my heart, because the human heart is too easily fooled by things. Also, as many others have pointed out, no one knows the day except the Father in Heaven. The warnings of the end have already been pointed out in Revelation, and if "hints" were given to people, it wouldn't be like a thief in the night, would it?

If a thief put a note on your house that said, "I'm going to rob you sometime in the next month," it wouldn't be a surprise, would it?

God's not going to tell us when He's coming back. He's not even going to give us a clue.

Right. He does have an exact date. But no one knows what it is. It hasn't changed. Just people's "feelings" about when it would happen were wrong. And He IS coming soon.

But you know what? He was coming soon 1,900 years ago, too. "Soon" is a vague and relative term.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. - 2 Peter 3:8 and some of 9

"Soon" to God is different from "soon" to humans.


Actually, preterists would completely disagree with you, since they believe all the prophecies of the end times in Revelation were fulfilled before 70 AD. But that's not a discussion for this site.

I'm not concerned with the Second Coming. Whenever He comes, He comes, and if it's in my lifetime, cool. I don't think it will be, but if it is, that's pretty awesome.

Well-said.

I find it interesting that some people think that the world is more evil now than it ever has been. It's as the saying goes, "There's nothing new under the sun." As long as people have been around, there has been deception, murder, and lust. In fact, the times we live in today are much more tame compared to the times of the Old Testament.

Agreed. We just think there's more of it because the world is so...connected now. We hear about things within minutes or hours nowadays rather than days or weeks because of internet, TV, radio, etc.