Physical Attraction in Girls?

[Felix]

Wow termyt! You nailed it on the head! ^^ That's basically exactly what I was trying to say, Kudos on your verbal skillz and your awesome hat.

[cbwing0]

Volt, you're still posting with the attitude that anyone under 20 is an immature brat.

Stop proving him right . Relax!

[termyt]

Wow termyt! You nailed it on the head! ^^ That's basically exactly what I was trying to say, Kudos on your verbal skillz and your awesome hat.

Thanks! I'm really quite fond of my hat.

Oh, and my verbal skillz.

[pyro_moogle]

It depends on what you attracted to in the body.

[Fsiphskilm]

How? M

[Yeito]

I didn't take volt's posts that way. He makes a good point.

Maybe someone is just taking it the wrong way.

[Zane]

I join the bandwagon with Felix, well said termyt.

I don't know if you two agree with this, but one such person is Faye from Cowboy Bebop... supposedly shes attractive (thats what some ppl here have said, and fair enough), but having watched her in action; her attitude, body language and the way she relates to other people, makes her, to me anyway, totally unattractive.
Thats my example to what termyt said.

[Zane]

Okay, once again I have no idea how that happend.

Mod/Admi can you please delete me. Cheers

[uc pseudonym]

I have very little to say about this topic, though I thought that I might. The only reason I'm posting is because of something fairly small. It is possible this post is unnecessary, but I feel this is an important distinction.

Likewise, it is impossible to commit adultery if you are not married - in which case, lust itself is the catalyst for marriage. What he's saying is that a married Jewish man who goes out to strip clubs or the like is no different in his heart from an adulterer. Even there it only applies to people under the law.

Some time ago I wondered about this verse myself, and so I went to the trouble of doing research on the text in its original language. What I found was interesting.

Jesus definitely uses the word that specifically means adultery, not pornea. However, his language is very inclusive. In other words, he is applying what he says to everyone, married or unmarried. It is phrased such that Jesus is essentially redefining the definition of adultery (which is fitting, given that he is addressing specific laws). The verse applies to everyone (as I think it is fairly safe to assume Jesus meant all of humanity but addressed his audience in the language of the day).

In any case, consider the alternative. According to the Law, nothing was sinful except for the actual act of intercourse, and that was generally only "punished" by marriage. Do we really want to operate by that kind of morality today?

[Kaligraphic]

I think it's a good idea, actually.

Max: Hey, guys, let's go pick up chicks for tonight!
John: Yes, let us go and procure for ourselves some action!
Sam: Hold on, guys, remember Al? How he ended up with that shrew because he just wanted to sleep with her? Remember how he hasn't been happy since?
Max: Yeah...
John: Hmm, on reflection, maybe it's not such a good idea to just sleep with whoever. We might end up with someone like Gertrude.
All: *shudder*


You see, it could really put things into perspective for some people.

[Kenshin17]

I think physical attraction is important. I have a list (not yet written down, but I have one) of characteristics I want in a girl. One of those is that she is pretty, to me. I don't think physical apperance is what a relationship should be based on. Basing a relationship such as marrage on the physical is...well stupid. However though I believe that I think it is not only right but natural that a man should find his wife physically attractive. In fact I love hearing guys say there wife is pretty or "hot". Thats as it should be.

On that topic and in response to Yumi's post way back on page one, I believe that sociaty has given girls the wrong view of beauty. They tell girls they have to look like celebrity A when I believe each girl has her own beauty. Girls arn't supposed to look the same. I don't want my girl trying to be celebrity A. I want her to be her and have her own beauty. Anyway thats my two cents on that matter.

And in answer to Mr.SP's question - yes I believe physical attraction is important. I will not however base my marrage on the physical.

[Galant]

Physical attraction IS important. Not because I considered the philosophy of it and decided that it was so, but because I have been made a human male and as such find physical attraction to be of importance.

However, I think we should make a distinction between being physically attracted to someone, and that someone being a model. To be with someone you find physically repulsive (the opposite of attractive) is I think a poor move, yet it is different from being with someone to whom you a physically attracted yet would not succeed as a super model. See the difference? We're talking here about attraction and not a specifc standard of beauty.

To say that inner is everything and the physical is nothing is a remnant of old philosophy and even heresy. Though I'm not saying you're a heretic. The physical was created by God. It is not unimportant but aactually a significant ingredient in a successful relationship.

[uc pseudonym]

I think it's a good idea, actually.

Max: Hey, guys, let's go pick up chicks for tonight!
John: Yes, let us go and procure for ourselves some action!
Sam: Hold on, guys, remember Al? How he ended up with that shrew because he just wanted to sleep with her? Remember how he hasn't been happy since?
Max: Yeah...
John: Hmm, on reflection, maybe it's not such a good idea to just sleep with whoever. We might end up with someone like Gertrude.
All: *shudder*


You see, it could really put things into perspective for some people.

That's a humorous angle that I hadn't considered, but it is irrelevant because this isn't a theocracy. Max and John don't have to care about this any more than they would care about current Christian morality. Furthermore, if we really want to operate by the Law, nothing would keep Al from divorcing Gertrude in an instant. Even if for some reason people wanted to follow the law, they could still sleep around by imitating Brittany Spears. Without our legal system of marriage it'd be easier, actually.

But that is all really aside from my point (though it is fine for you to bring it up). What I'm saying is that such a morality would completely eliminate our conceptions of lust. Pornography in all its forms would be perfectly acceptable for Christians. Absolutely nothing would be wrong except for sex itself, and I don't feel that's a healthy outlook.

[Kharl]

Physical attractiveness is important to me, but after a year or so, I suppose it soon becomes something as unimportant as the meteorologist saying today is a day with weather. After that year or so, personality would be more important. Personally, I'd like someone who is physically attractive, flexible, easygoing, and knows how to cook very well.

But I'm right now I'm a person with a vested interest on maintaining this point of view.

[mitsuki lover]

When it comes down to it there really are two types of beautiful girls.
The first is the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Cover Model type that most guys
know they aint got a chance with unless a Huge Meteor Hits America and
Wipes Out Every Other Man And Woman In The Country.
The other type is the type we end up marrying,the girl next door type of
beauty.

[Kaligraphic]

uc: I'm probably misreading this, but it sounds like you're saying we start from what we want to allow and build doctrine and principles to support it? Rather than being willing to throw out large portions of our doctrine simply because we learn that they were built on a misunderstanding of principles. (i.e. designing God around our doctrines and rules, rather than starting with God and letting everything be designed around Him)

Otherwise, your line "Do we really want to operate by that kind of morality today?" suggests that you would throw away doctrines simply because you didn't like what they implied, and I'm sure that's not what you were meaning to convey.

[uc pseudonym]

I am unable to answer that question without going too deep into theological waters. Therefore I will PM you my response and abandon the discussion here.

[Takuya]

It depends on who you ask... I'm going to say yes, but don't think I'm shallow, because looks are lowest on my list. What matters most to me is that we get along totally (No history of arguments) and if we don't... I just mark her off my list (I've lost too many friends to fights, so I don't even risk it)...

[Linksquest]

I think that physical attraction is at least somewhat important. I think many other things are MORE important, but physical attraction still remains something that holds a crucial element in what attracts people to one another, at least in the first place. A guy might see a girl, and because she is pretty want to know her more. Then he will fall in love with her because of common interests, she has a good heart, a love of God, etc.

[Takuya]

ahh... true true... like the venus fly-trap except non-deadly... you get sucked in by the smell and look, then everything else takes over...

[Mithrandir]

What matters most to me is that we get along totally (No history of arguments) and if we don't... I just mark her off my list (I've lost too many friends to fights, so I don't even risk it)...

Hmm... At the risk of sounding rude, I've found this to be more closely related to the maturity of the individuals than to the "quality" of the friendship. Early in adolescense, emotions run a lot hotter than they do later in life. As for your other point, life with someone who I've never disagreed with would be boring. I would recommend you thoroughly define "history of arguments" to yourself before crossing someone off your list. There are some major points that should be compatible, to be sure, but if you guys get in arguments over small things, well, it's not about "compatibility" at that point.

[Cognitive Gear]

Yes. Physical attraction is important. However, I've found that inner beauty will end up "leaking" outwards. When you first meet the girl, she may not be that most attractive woman physically, however, as you get to know her you slowly start to see her in a different light. Suddenly, all of those little imperfections fade away, and you'll find yourself beholding the most beautiful woman in the world.

At least, that's how it has happenned to me...

Beauty is all in the eye of the beholder.

[skyblue]

No. It shouldn't be important. But, however, it is quite hard to forget.

[Kaligraphic]

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

[Syreth]

This is very subjective. Physical attraction is important, but not the most important thing by a long shot. Appearance does, in certain ways, affect how someone is on the inside. Having a well-kept body can reflect discipline and self-control. On the other hand, a neglected body is often unattractive and can reflect irresponsibility and lack of self-control. But again, this varies from person to person, as with the importance that a person places on physical attractiveness.