American Animation: Doesn't Suck

[Ky Kiske]

the new version of He-Man was just as cheesy but had extremely smooth animation, I mean it was just really well done.

[cbwing0]

I guess that I'm the only Exo-Squad fan here.

Yet another show that was not as cool as the toys that were based on it .

[Meza]

The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy is one of the funiest shows i have ever seen.I also liked the angry Beavers.

[Roy Mustang]

Yet another show that was not as cool as the toys that were based on it .

Heh, I guess. But it was one cartoon show that dealt with alot of stuff that no other cartoon show would have at that time.

I think the reason why it didn't to well was because of the bad time slot they had it on and the age group that they were going for.


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[yukinon]

The Angry Beavers was awesome. Remember the magic time acorn? And how Dagget remembered stuff by writing it on his eyelids? eeeew.

[Steeltemplar]

So many great shows mentioned.

One great one that has not been talked about here yet - Tazmania. I loved that show.

[mitsuki lover]

Duck Dodgers was great yesterday night.Not only did they do a Samurai Jack
parody on the second ep. but the first one was a surfer parody and they had
Brian "The Beach Boys" Wilson on as a guest star!:)
Too bad they didn't do one of the Beach Boys' classics like Surfin' USA,that
would have been freakin' funny!

[Aeolus21]

I love the wit and style of King of the Hill, though I am dreading the newer episodes. The Spielberg toons (Tiny Toons, Animaniacs) were fun to watch in that it was able to blend it's humor to both adults and children. And of course, Genndy Tartakovsky's shows are probably among the best I've seen in recent years, with it's fluidity of animation and genius writing - Especially Dexter's Laboratory.

Though I am surprised a lot of people are not mentioning the old Hanna Barbera cartoons. They were pretty much responsible for influencing most of the animators\writers today (namely in the Simpsons).

[Bobtheduck]

Man... I agree with not bashing the entirety of american animation, but it ticks (wanted to use a slightly harsher term, because "ticks" doesn't fit) me off to see this thread turning into an ANIME BASHING thread of all things... Volt, I hear your sophestry by so many anti anime people, but the plain fact is American animation uses JUST AS MANY SHORTCUTS as ANIME! Rewinds, reusing sequences, limited animation (EVERYTHING Hannah Barberra put out, short of GI JOE which uses limited frame rate instead) Then there is the fact that anime tends to be more detailed, wheras American animation is much less detailed, making it easier to animate. I have no problem with this if the stories and such are good, but don't start in with crap about American animation being BETTER than Japanese animation...

As for animation quality, I have never EVER seen another work of animation-- Japanese, American, Brittish, Canadian, French, or othewise-- that matched Akira. There just aren't any. I am not talking story or tastes in art style... I'm talking purely technical skill in animation. It was hand drawn (except, I think, a scene in a helicopter) with cells, and the animation was pretty much flawless. Very detailed, and an almost theater quality frame rate (was it like 20 FPS instead of the live action 24 FPS?) That was a lot of work. It is possible, objectively, to look at that compared with all the big budget Disney movies, Don Bleuth movies, and Dreamworks movies like Prince of Egypt and say that it still stands as the best technical work of traditional animation. (since most newer disney movies are done on computer, and Akira still looks better than most of the new big budget movies)

There are MORE ANIME because animation is on a higher societal tier in Japan than in the US. Plain and simple. It's worth more to the animation studios to do such. Plus, there are more serials, so instead of focusing efforts on 1 show lasting 10 seasons, they can make 10 shows lasting 1 season. And, also rather simply, Japanese movie/television indsustry just doesn't have the sort of money that the american industry does. Even so, we still get some subpar animation and artwork (most of the CN productions) and a lot of cheap tricks on par with the TV anime tricks...

I wanted to come in here hailing the praises of my favorite works of American animation, because I love a lot of American animation, but hearing people bash Anime on the Christian Anime Alliance of all places really burns me...

And this complaining (though I'd rather usea harsher term) about frame rate is so old... Get some new material... This has been rehashed so many times...

Should I even bother mentioning the biggest new form of cheating, "Flash"? Flash is good for stuff like Homestar, but when big animation studios start relying on that (like Hannah Barberra with Sea Lab and Harvey Birdman) people have no right to be complaining about cheating in anime... Flash is the biggest cheat of them all. (hahaha... Cheat...)

[Myoti]

Bobtheduck, you are my hero.

I noticed people bringing that stuff up, and I jsut couldn't believe. When Impact began this thread, I don't think he was planning on people bashing either side. He was simply bringing up the fact that not all Amercian animation is bad.

[Sonic_13]

The Angry Beavers was awesome. Remember the magic time acorn? And how Dagget remembered stuff by writing it on his eyelids? eeeew.

hehehe my gerbils names are norbert and daggot (ones golden brown the other black) That show was really awesome!

I vaguely remember the eye lid thing... something about betting norb that if he let him have something one year later he'd have to do whatever he says with the wall/cieling riding bikes! lol!

[yukinon]

You have good points, my friend Bob, but also keep in mind that not everyone in this thread has been bashing anime.

(Which is not what I think you were implying, but your reply did come off a bit harsh. Good points though, really.)

[Fsiphskilm]

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