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Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:33 pm

The question that arises from all of this is:Is the future changeable in any way?
If someone dreams that they're going to be run down at 11:00 a.m. the next
day by a white car with a certain license plate at a particuliar corner,can that
same person change the future by avoiding going near that same corner at that
time.Or are we locked up into only one particuliar outcome and no matter what
we do that same outcome will always occur?
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:53 pm

All one needs do is look at the old testament prophecies... Most of them were WARNINGS that would only happen provided the people did or didn't do certain things. Almost all of the prophecies in the Old Testament were conditional. So, yeah, I think it is changeable.

Even in the New Testament, there were prophecies of sorts in the first 3 chapters of Revelations that were entirely conditional... And the churches must not have stayed fixed, because none of them exist anymore...
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Postby Nate » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:03 pm

mitsuki lover wrote:The question that arises from all of this is:Is the future changeable in any way?
If someone dreams that they're going to be run down at 11:00 a.m. the next
day by a white car with a certain license plate at a particuliar corner,can that
same person change the future by avoiding going near that same corner at that
time.Or are we locked up into only one particuliar outcome and no matter what
we do that same outcome will always occur?

Reminds me of the old story about the farmer who saw Death walking around his land, so he got scared and told his son he was going to town to hide from Death.

Death later ran into the farmer's son, and the son said, "That's pretty mean of you to scare my dad like that."

And Death said, "No, I was just surprised to see him here at the farm, that's all. I have an appointment with him in town today."
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Postby Arnobius » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:54 pm

Steeltemplar wrote:I agree with some here that as long as you are a Christian and are not trying anything occult, then I doubt it is diabolic/demonic in origin.

Well, remember that Satan likes to disrupt our peace.

I once had a dream that I would die on a certain date...

...that date came and went last year.

So, I doubt God was involved with that one...
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Postby Doubleshadow » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:37 pm

I get dreams like that. I can control it to a certain extent (I imagine certain things in day dreams that happen later), but it's so weak that I can't rely on it. I almost never bother anymore.
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Postby Fireproof » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:22 pm

mitsuki lover wrote:The question that arises from all of this is:Is the future changeable in any way?

Yes, no, and maybe, all at the same time. Watch Minority Report.
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EDIT: I'll add some substance to that post. To a certain extent, dreams where you "see the future" can be odd constructions of everyday events that seem to predict the future. If it happens, it could just be a concidence.
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Postby Anna Mae » Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:32 pm

I have seen the future on occasion also. I would pray about it and try to keep an open mind. However, be on your guard. Just because it is from God doesn't mean that Satan can't twist it and use it for his gain. So, I guess my two cents is to use discretion and pray.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:04 pm

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Postby EireWolf » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:23 am

Heart of Sword wrote:NO. No way, not ever! o_O

I didn't suspect that you were. I said that to reassure you, actually, not to freak you out. :)
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Postby Anna Mae » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:34 pm

Question:
Volt, what did you mean by this?
Volt wrote:Dreams will be Dreams, But last I checked... We're not in need of a prophet, at least not yet.
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Postby Syaoran » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:49 pm

Very rarely I get dreams that come true......I mostly get Out of body Experiance, which are realy weard. Other than that......It could just be that God is telling you something throw your dreams.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:26 pm

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Postby teen4truth » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:52 pm

Woah, this is tottaly deep. Anyways, as for me I think that all dreams that come true are either from God, Satan, or are just a simple coincidence.

If they are from God, he probably would tell you. Most if not all of the dreams and visions that he gave to people in the bible he or the angel that he sent specifically said that it was from him. after all, if the God of all excistance was to give someone a dream it would have to be for an vital enough reason for them to need to know who it is from.

And as for all other dreams, they(in my opinion) are simply from Satan to mix us up and to get us involved with witchcraft and other evil things that we can accidently stumble upon when trying to find out about prophecy and visions. And if its not from either of them, then it must be simply coincidence.
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Postby teen4truth » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:56 pm

oh and by the way i also agree with some stuffs that anna mae said. and what i posted above was just my opinion..nobody knows exactly how dreams work except for God.
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Postby teen4truth » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:14 pm

I would say that on this forum some of the posts that you should listen to are ones from yeshua-knight, anna mae, volt, and ofcourse my own(once again, just my opinion). but if you want the full truth without any deffects or blemishes...then the one you need to go to is God himself:)
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Postby Slater » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:15 pm

remember, folks, that prophecy isn't just being able to tell the future. To prophecy simply means to tell the truth. God installs His Word into the hearts of us prophets, and well, today that's mostly it. He can reviel the future to us in dreams, sure, but such dreams aren't just limmitted to prophets. Even the unsaved and pagan can be given such dreams (Look at Pharaoh in the Joseph story).
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Postby teen4truth » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:47 pm

hey sorry if i double posted above...didnt know that that was bad until just now.
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Postby Slater » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:07 pm

Double posts get deleted. Triple posts get Mithy's special treatment :)
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Postby Hephzibah » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:10 pm

Volt wrote:What i ment was that.

The propheticies about the coming of Jesus were already prophecized, the bible is written, and everythings done.

Revelation speaks about 2 prophets at the end of the world. Other than that, we won't be needing any major prophecising for a while.

I disagree with you mate. I've had several prophesies over my life, and they are beginning to come true. Also, there have been numerous prophesies about Australia.
Basically, my point is that the gift of prophesy is not just limited to the Old Testament OR to the two Witnesses that will be coming. That is why Paul and other New Testament writers talked about the gift of prophesy.
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Postby Slater » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:43 pm

I think the key word there in Volt's post was "major."

Yet again, to say that any prophecy isn't important must be done at risk of one's life.
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Postby Anna Mae » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:22 pm

I agree with you, Talame. I know people who proshesy and I have also, and I'm sure that it's not just Satan or imagination.

By the way, thanks for the compliment, teen4truth.
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Postby Sparrow Writer » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:51 pm

I sometimes have dreams like that too...my grandma said she did too. My brother had it happen once too...my cousin and mom just said something about having strange dreams... But I never dreamed about anything major. Just pets dying or something happening. So I'm thinking its just imagination. Or else my family is in trouble. 0.0
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Postby Michael » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:58 pm

I think everyone gets an overwhelming sense of Deja Vu at some point in life. It's normal to feel like you've seen something before, probably has something to do with hormones or some such.

I wouldn't read too much into it, after all, the Bible says that we are more blessed if we believe without having seeing then if we see and believe.
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Postby teen4truth » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:08 pm

as my mum always says...when you discuss things like whitchcraft, speaking in tongues, and, yes, dreams and prophecing(dont think i spelt that right) nobody wins and it usualy turns into a heated fight. Dont get me wrong, we have been doing a good job about not turnig this into a heated fight of fury...im just saying that none of us knows for sure, only God does.

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Postby EireWolf » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:34 pm

Prophets have spoken in my life, and have told me things that I needed to hear and obey. Now, I'm not talking about "John the Baptist"-style prophets -- just ordinary folks that God uses in extraordinary ways. I don't think we can say it's all over and done with until Jesus returns -- God will work the way He works, and He still speaks. God will decide if prophets are needed.
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