Matrix Revolutions

Postby **ShiroiHikari** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:39 pm

I didn't see Revolutions last night. But that's 'cause I'm cool like dat. (we went to see Alien: Director's Cut instead)

We'll probably go next week sometime.

Postby **Saint** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:56 pm

The Rave part is quick, i didn't notice it myself the first time.
Also i agree without the game and the anime you are left wondering a lot. Still even with everything it makes you wonder what they want to do with the story now. i'm ready for more.

Postby **Kagan** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:04 pm

I agree with Shadsie that it was a bit of a ripoff. Personally, I think he's the representing Him in his world. There are a lot of stories based on imagined world that rip-off the same thing, I think. Sorry if this sounds a bit vague but I don't know how to make one of those spoiler things =/

Postby **Michael** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:16 pm

<(we went to see Alien: Director's Cut instead)>

Me and my dad wanted too, but it didn't open locally. Was it good?

Postby **Ashley** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 1:14 pm

I just saw it myself. Boy oh boy....there were times I sobbed, times I could hardly breathe...and times I bounced in my seat (well, part of that has to do with the cherry coke I bought, I'm sure). Overall, wonderful movie. And unlike some others I've talked to, I liked the ending. Although....
[Spoiler="Trinity"]I sobbed and cried beyond mention at Trinity's death[/spoiler]

Postby **true_noir_chloe** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:59 pm

I'm with you Ashley, I felt all the above, except the cherry coke part. :eyebrow:

I just saw it with my family and some friends. I don't really care about what meant what, I just enjoyed the movie and I figured the ending would happen the way it did. No big. I really liked the ***** scene and the ***** scene. (Those are not bad words, I just don't want to spoil it for anyone.) Those were some awesome graphics.

Postby **Solid Ronin** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:01 pm

this one is the best in the series in fact every Lord of the Rings is OK compared to this movie least in my opinion

Postby **Michael** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:09 pm

Woooo, be careful there, a lot of LotR fans on here.

My thoughts:
[spoiler]The series has been franchised too much. There is no cyber-punk feel to it. They mostly do it so people will buy every little thing they produce. That's why there'r so many unanswered questions. The final fight scene was excellent. I didn't like the part about Neo being crucified though. Aslo, Trin dies, I'm ok. Smith dies, I feel terrible.[/spoiler]

Postby **Solid Ronin** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:13 pm

Michael wrote:Woooo, be careful there, a lot of LotR fans on here.

My thoughts:
[spoiler]The series has been franchised too much. There is no cyber-punk feel to it. They mostly do it so people will buy every little thing they produce. That's why there'r so many unanswered questions. The final fight scene was excellent. I didn't like the part about Neo being crucified though. Aslo, Trin dies, I'm ok. Smith dies, I feel terrible.[/spoiler]

im one ofem but Matrix I can REALLY get into the story and characters I dont feel that way with Lotr

Postby **Ashley** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:03 pm

Anyone else notice the allusion to King Arthur in the end?
[spoiler=Neo is Arthur?] Neo, like King Arthur, was borne away on a "barge" somewhere between death and life (for Arthur, it was to Avalon), possibly to await his return, possibly dead. I thought it was cool anyway, but I'm a sucker for medieval mythology.[/spoiler]

Postby **Lochaber Axe** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:14 pm

Do you know that many people felt that King Arthur had come back as Winston Churchill?

My 2 ruples.

Postby **postbagboy** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:01 pm

[spoiler]I just saw the movie today. I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, but did anyone notice the obvious Revalation/Christian references at the end?
Revolutions = Revalations
When Neo dies, in the real world, a big light comes out of his chest, looking like a crucifix.
Peace begins, just like in Revalations the 1000-year peace.
etc etc.[/spoiler]

Postby **Ashley** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:04 pm

[spoiler] There's also the way Neo was lying (arms outstretched) on the machine barge in the end, the fact he brought Trinity back to life in the 2nd one (raising a girl from the dead, that sounds familiar) and a ton more Christian references in the first one. Yeah, it is interesting to note the Christian elements, however, I picked up a subtle message of "you can save yourself, you don't need a Messiah" between Neo and Kid.[/spoiler]

Postby **Haibane Shadsie** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:10 pm

Those who probably couldn't get into LOtR are probably those who have not read the books. Read the books! The movies have done a good job in keeping well with the books (except some deviations, especially the second movie), but... yeah... I loved the books, and seeing the movies was like... reliving my wonderful experience in reading the books.

I understand how people don't "get into" LOtR, though. My mom can't get into it... because she's not a fan of fantasy hardly at all. (I almost live for fantasy, myself). Some people just aren't high fantasy fans. Also... a warning about the books for those who haven't read and found the movies too complicated to follow... the books are even more complicated, lots of little tangents like Elvish poetry, and it's also written in a very "high style"... lots of complicated language useage and made up, hard to figure out how to pronounce words... You have to like fairly "sofisticated", complicated fiction to enjoy them, I think. I do, so... I did enjoy the books, very much.

As for the Matrix... I'm sad to say at that spoiler...

[spoiler=Spoiler about Characters]I was almost glad when Trinity died... because I had read in the newspaper that a character died and I was sure it was going to be my favorite - Morpheus. So... I was glad that Morpheus lived! Trinity's death was sad... but I almost cracked up laughing in the theater at that scene because of idiots in seats behind me talking to each other and mocking it. At Neos line of *You can't die* one of the idiots behind me said *Yes I can! Watch me!* So - I almost laughed and felt ugh about it. [/spoiler]

Postby **uc pseudonym** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:22 am

Hmm... spoiler city. They're annoying me, but I'm grateful for those spoiler boxes. I still have to get around to seeing this, but it will happen, now that my dad's seen Reloaded.

On that topic, I'd have one thing to say: people seem to be very disappointed in Reloaded because they expected another first movie, not a sequel. There's a distinct difference between the two. Why should one expect something the same as the first, when it is clearly a continuation? I went expecting a sequel, and wasn't very disappointed.

Postby **Ashley** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:06 am

Well, I was kind of disappointed in Reloaded (yeah, I gave into the hype :red:

) but not too much, and after seeing Revolutions, I liked Reloaded more than Revolutions.

Postby **uc pseudonym** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:14 pm

I've had Revolutions ruined for me (not all of your faults). Friends at school who already saw it. Sigh...

I'm seeing it Thursday. At the moment I don't think much of the plot (read as: ending), so I'm banking on fights and special effects.

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:58 pm

Lochaber Axe wrote:Do you know that many people felt that King Arthur had come back as Winston Churchill?

My 2 ruples.

So a fictional character of absolute good reincarnated as an underhanded and downright manipulative leader? I guess the reincarnation process of fictional characters has some kinks to work out...

Postby **Saint** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:14 pm

What a shame its a good movie. It has to be the ending that gets most people. Yet when you really think about it... it is probably the most appropriate ending.

Postby **shooraijin** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:58 pm

The ending was quite, well, tacked on. (And the Kid's screaming fit was just silly.)

But, I did like the final scene with the Architect and the Oracle, and the undoing of Agent Smith was an ingeniously clever and spectacular ruse.

Postby **Ashley** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:02 pm

I found the ending appropriate: closing, final, resolved (no more sequels for hollywood to butcher) yet not without hope. Just what a good ending should be.

Postby **senjutsu** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:27 am

i thought it was an excellent ending. for fanfics that is XD

Postby **Michael** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:34 pm

Eh, it had the makings of a good series, but it was franchised to much.

Postby **Shinja** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:37 pm

Michael wrote:Eh, it had the makings of a good series, but it was franchised to much.

shinja imagines> hammburgurler as neo fighting a cernal sanders agent smith,

.....bizzar

Postby **shooraijin** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:44 pm

Ah, the Matrix Fast Food Revolutions. Watch for it. I think the Carl's Junior Star makes a cameo.

Postby **Shinja** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:56 pm

wait waht am i thinking thats just the auqa teen hunger force

thier potatoes with power

Postby **Bobtheduck** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:28 am

Before he was a machine, he was an elf... "Good evening, Mr. Frodo" (talking movie reference chronos not when the movies were MADE)

anyhow... I have no self control... I've looked at ALL the spoilers... -_-

>>>iz so weak<<<

I'm still seeing it, maybe friday night...

Postby **Will Smith, Jr** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:46 pm

And mercifully, this series is over.

While better than Reloaded, Revolutions for some reason didn't bring it all together. As mentioned elsewhere, I guess the game and animatrix had some clues that would fill in my gaps.

Maybe someone can post "Matrix for Dummies" for people like me because there are things I still don't understand.

Just like Link, I'm not sure what to think. And I'm in agreement with Saint: I knew that Neo or Smith was going to turn into some Super-Saiyan. Just like DBZ they kept going on and on and on... I began to think "would somebody please knock somebody out because this is ridiculous."

And what was up with that Wizard of Oz scene at the end? The Zion scene was nice but I missed the martial arts that made the first one.

Well, Return of the King in one month.

WillieDoc

Postby **uc pseudonym** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:21 am

Well, the person who started this thread has finally seen the movie it is about. Sixty two posts in.

Hmm... what all to say? Oddly enough, I liked the movie less and less as it went on. Though that isn't to say I didn't like the entire movie overall. Now, I think this is very warrented.

[SPOILER=Just about everything]I liked the opening scene where Seraph, Trinity and Morpheous go in. The fight versus the six guys who walk on the cieling was interesting. We have people who run up walls and the like, but these guys just plain walk on the cieling.

The mech scene was cool, but I'm not too big on mechs in the first place. I do have this to say, though: this is the first live action movie that truly honors the name of mech.

Trinity's death, while it was something I knew was coming (and suspected before that) felt somewhat pointless. How many main characters die while landing? It was very cool that they briefly pierced the nuclear cloud level.

I'm a DBZ fan, but I really didn't like the fight of Neo versus Agent Smith too much. When they were engaging in hand to hand it was fine, but when they were kind of just wildly tumbling it wasn't nearly as cool.

I'm not quite sure what I think about the ending. The sunrise was a good way to end the entire series. Smith's destruction was certainly unique and good, I'll give them that. Neo's death actually felt good to me, I had expected it to be more depressing. Seeing him go off like King Arthur was a good way for it to happen.[/SPOILER]

Postby **Saint** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:20 pm

Want to know whats up next... well it will cost you.
i got an e-mail a few days back announcing the new 'Matrix Online.' the online (money maker... err, game) story will pick up after the movie and will have short movies (maybe 5 min.?) and new missions each month to continue the story along. could be interesting, who knows yet... who will? i don't have the money for a monthly fee.

if you want to just check it out you can find it at http://www.thematrixonline.ubi.com

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