Psycics...

[Artist4Jesus89]

I know this is a weird question but do any of you think that there could be Christian Psycics (or any at all) i have been wondering about that.
Would God give someone that kind of abillity or is it a demon thing ?
Please help me.

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Psychics are either con artists or people who get their powers from the demonic. Therefore why would there be Christian Psychics? That said, some Christians have been given the spiritual gifts of visions and prophercy but they are different from telling the future and are from God and for His purpose, not for self gain.

[Arnobius]

[Lochaber Axe]

This is one of those grey matters that the bible talks little about... at least to my knowledge. In my opinion, all of humanity is psychic... that is how I believe God made us to be in tune with him while in our earthly forms. The mind being the gateway between God and our souls... I guess.

Are there really such things as telekinesis, levitation, and pyrokinesis? I don't really know and don't care... to me, it just allows me to play a great game like Psychonauts.

I don't have such powers, I meant... oh nevermind.

[Yojimbo]

Psychics are either con artists or people who get their powers from the demonic. Therefore why would there be Christian Psychics? That said, some Christians have been given the spiritual gifts of visions but they are different from telling the future and are from God and for His purpose, not for self gain.

Exactly Christians with those kind of gifts were given from God. They're not the same as a Miss Cleo type of psychic who just uses techniques and general answers to give you your "future" for 3.99 a minute. They're con artists. The other kind are in league with less than Godly powers.

[Lochaber Axe]

I don't really believe that Demons ultimately give these powers, but twist the spiritual connection I mentioned earlier, allowing for these type of powers.

Demons do not create evil thoughts or emotions, but twist already existing ones. They're entire purpose is to pervert what God created, so this theory fits the bill to me.

[Artist4Jesus89]

i asked because there was a show and there was a Christian Psycic on there suposedly and he went into a persons house (they were Christians too) and he said he beleived what they did and he had the ability to detect all kinds of spirits and all that


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[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Well there are Christians whom God has given the spiritual gift of discernment to detect the presence of spirits. But these are different. Say a Christian with Discernment walks into a Crystal store, the Holy Spirit will give them insight and help them discern if there are evil spirits are at work there. Its often detected when the person becomes physically and spiritually uncomfortable and if it is extra strong even feel physically sick being in said shop. I know some people at my church who have the gift of Discernment and have heard some of their experiences.
Its a crude example but I hope it helps a little. Remember Jesus is bigger than all that!

[Lochaber Axe]

We all have feelings of deja vu (mine is really acute sometimes however, as if i foresaw that moment. Its freaky...) or the feeling of being watched when there is no obvious perpetrator. Instincts play into it, but it also goes a little beyond that as well.

EDIT: Warrior is right. I would be wary of his claims... as much as I do the supposed science of demonology. Ghost hunters... pfft.

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Sometimes instincts are all they are but there are some people that God has given the spiritual gift of Discernment to help their spiritual walk with Jesus and help others in their walk of faith.

Ghosts don't exist, they are just the result of people with overactive imaginations and in some rarer instances would be demons disguising themselves as ghosts to decieve.

[Lochaber Axe]

Sometimes instincts are all they are but there are some people that God has given the spiritual gift of Discernment to help their spiritual walk with Jesus and help others in their walk of faith.

It's one of the Fruits of the Spirit... most people who have a strong faith have this fruit, though like you said others have more developed through God's nurturing of the ability.

It allows someone to know what a demon's is... say lust or whatever... and exorcise it that way, or to tell what is wrong with a person.

I always say that ghosts are lesser demons put to "answering machine" service where they continually play back the same thing over and over. Be it a horrible murder victim, or just a voice... you could say they are gloating about it.

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

I agree with you Axe. Yes, some people are stronger in their faith, but I guess to a certain extent all Christians have the gift to detect evil prescences at times.

[Kawaiikneko]

I believe there are no Christian pychics... Some people may have a gift of discernment, but that is a gift from God, not something within themselves. I do believe that any real pychic, not the phony ones who pretend to tell fortunes for money, is being empowered by some sort of demon, whether the person knows it or not.

And I think ghosts are just demons working to pull focus away from what's really going on in the spiritual world.

Ah... sry if I basically restated all that's already been said.

This is one of those grey matters that the bible talks little about... at least to my knowledge. In my opinion, all of humanity is psychic... that is how I believe God made us to be in tune with him while in our earthly forms. The mind being the gateway between God and our souls... I guess.

btw axe, this statement made me a little wary. I'm sure you didn't mean it in the way I read it but it made me feel a little.. wrong. Maybe that's the Holy Spirit pulling on my heart, maybe its my mind just saying so... I do agree that God can speak to us (and he does). While everyone is open to spiritual influence, psychics are people who open themselves up to the entire spirit world and invite any kind of spirit to come, and what comes is normally a bad spirit. That isn't to say that God can't reach them, but that would be alot of conflicting voices. God can, of course, still reach them, but its still not the best situation for them to put themselves in. It might not be best to refer to all people as psychics. ^^; sorry if I misinterpretted and it sounds like I'm chewing you out. I don't mean to sound that way...

[Kireihana]

“Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.â€

[EireWolf]

I believe some Christians have God-given gifts that may resemble what we think of as psychic abilities. Others have already mentioned the gifts of discernment and prophecy. I guess the way to tell if they are serving God with these gifts is to look at who they glorify. Do they credit God, or are they self-serving? It is possible to misuse a gift that God has given.

[Technomancer]

I've never seen any reason to believe that psychic powers were anything more than self-deception or a con game. I do however like Sirach's take on the matter:

Empty and false are the hopes of the senseless, and fools are borne aloft by dreams. Like a man who catches at shadows or chases the wind, is the one who believes in dreams. What is seen in dreams is to reality what the reflection of a face is to the face itself. Can the unclean produce the clean? can the liar ever speak the truth? Divination, omens and dreams all are unreal; what you already expect, the mind depicts.

Sirach 34: 1-6

[Azier the Swordsman]

I've had instances where I've seen events in my minds eye right before they happened.... freaky..... but I still don't believe in psychic powers. God gives certain people the ability to discern and fortell certain things, but the rest is all demonic.

Miss Cleo.... don't even get me started on her. We almost had to call the authorities on her because she kept spamming my personal phone line. MY phone line. -_- Her and her cronies were calling 20 times a day....

[Fsiphskilm]

ALL Psy

[Kaligraphic]

Hmm, this is an interesting question. Under the old testament law, all spiritual doings were considered unlawful because man's spirit was evil. It is the spirit which interacts with other spirits, thus people would have to rely on that part of them that was most corrupted. (bad idea) This is where you got witch doctors, shamans, sorcerors, psychics, necromancers, mediums, and all those sorts of people. (And no, they aren't really hearing from dead uncle Morty, demons are just good at impressions.)

Now, under the new covenant, the spirit is regenerated, so we have the ability to operate safely and properly in the spiritual realm. This does not, however, mean that we should operate in the same way as shamans, psychics, mediums, et al., but rather that the realm in general is open to us. If you want to operate well in the spirit, the thing is you need proper instruction. Mediums hold seances to talk to what they believe are dead people. Christian "seances" involve talking to the source of all life. (God, in case you missed that part) (real) Psychics learn things in part by spiritual perception and in part by listening to demons. Christians learn things in part by spiritual perception, but all prophecy has to come straight from God. You can't just muddle through things or pull out whatever, you have to be more discerning in your source. (Also, a man who I very much respect said once, "You can't give a prophecy until you've received one." When I came to understand why, it made perfect sense. It is a true saying.)

With an evil spirit, people can do many things, all of them flawed. With a regenerated spirit, people can do even more things, without flaws. Just don't try to do them the same way - God > Demons, and Prophets > Psychics. You can know all things, the Bible says - yea, even the deep things of God - but that doesn't mean that you can know them all at once (your head might pull an Osaka) or by your own effort. You should exercise your spiritual senses, the Bible tells us, if you want to see/hear/smell/taste/feel more accurately and precisely what's going on in the spirit - it usually doesn't come all at once. (Senses are different from the spiritual gifts in that - the gifts are by faith, the senses require practice. (not that it's bad to exercise your faith, though (Okay, that's enough parentheses.)))

Anyway, the short answer is, sort of, but differently.