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Japanese Pronounciation Help

Postby Steeltemplar » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:51 pm

How does one pronounce the name "Aoi"?
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:00 pm

ah-oh-ee...roughly.
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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:29 pm

Think of it as stubbing your fingure and saying: "Owwie!"

Don't forget the "oh" sound in there though. 'Ow-oh-ee'.
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Postby Arnobius » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:39 pm

Close. More like this:

OW (like Ouch) + OI (like what the skiniheads yell). Run it together fast.

In songs, they tend to enunciate every syllable (heck, they even pronounce を as 'wo' when they sing instead of like 'o' when they talk)

The Japanese tend combine some syllables in interesting ways
Example, in Tokyo, "hito" tends to become mangled to "shto" because of the dialect. Then there are the dropped vowels, the combined vowels, slurred words etc...
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Postby Mr. Rogers » Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:04 pm

ah-oh-ee like that
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Postby Mithrandir » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:10 pm

Yeah. If you say it fast, I've found that "Ow! Oh! Weee!" is close, but don't glottal stop between the ow and the oh. ;)
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Postby termyt » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:54 am

Another trick is try not to emphasize any of the three syllables. This is very difficult for me - almost as difficult as saying the Japanese "l" or "r" - whatever.

In general, all Japanese syllables should get equal treatment whereas in English we learn to emphasize certain syllables of words. Also, every vowel should be pronounced, there are no diphthongs (although there are some exceptions to this). That’s why it’s a-o-i instead of a-oy.
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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:49 am

The best way to learn how to pronounce it, of course, is to hear it for yourself.
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Postby Steeltemplar » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:38 pm

Thanks for all the help :) It's really appreciated.
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Postby Arnobius » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:54 pm

termyt wrote:Another trick is try not to emphasize any of the three syllables. This is very difficult for me - almost as difficult as saying the Japanese "l" or "r" - whatever.

In general, all Japanese syllables should get equal treatment whereas in English we learn to emphasize certain syllables of words. Also, every vowel should be pronounced, there are no diphthongs (although there are some exceptions to this). That’s why it’s a-o-i instead of a-oy.

Except some vowels vanish. If you sing, everything gets equal emphasis, but there are words where vowels dropped
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Postby Lynx » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:39 pm

http://japanese.about.com/blphrase.htm try looking at that website. they have a bunch of wav files of some japanese words. Japanese prounciation isnt too difficult, the romanji is written phonetically so once you learn the vowel and vowel combination sounds, you're set. i'm learning japanese, so if there's anything i can help you with, feel free to ask for it!
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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:59 pm

Lynx wrote:http://japanese.about.com/blphrase.htm try looking at that website. they have a bunch of wav files of some japanese words. Japanese prounciation isnt too difficult, the romanji is written phonetically so once you learn the vowel and vowel combination sounds, you're set. i'm learning japanese, so if there's anything i can help you with, feel free to ask for it!


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Postby termyt » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:21 am

AnimeHeretic wrote:Except some vowels vanish. If you sing, everything gets equal emphasis, but there are words where vowels dropped


That's more a function of lazy speech than a language rule, but you are correct. They aren't like the silent vowels in English - if you tried to pronounce the "e" at the end of "gate," you wouldn't be understood. But if you pronounce the "u" on the end of "desu," you will be understood (and the Japanese tend to think it's cute when Americans try to speak their language anyway).
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