I could really use some advice...

Postby **Mr. SmartyPants** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:58 am

mobilesuitpilot wrote:I personally believe this should be dealt with in PM, not where everyone can see and get clouded views on other members.

agreed, this should of not been inside this thread

Postby **Kura Ookami** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:08 am

I can see where everyone is coming from, but why make such a fuss over it? I mean none of us are perfect. We make mistakes. Volt only said OMG. It's not like he murdered someone.

Postby **K. Ayato** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:11 am

I think it's settled now, James. No need to drag it up.

Postby **Stephen** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:29 am

Moving on back to topic now.

Postby **Kewl Girl** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:31 pm

Okay this thread got really off topic, if you would like to discuss this issues start you own thread or PM me, I dont care which one just please can we stop debatind it here!

Anyways... Im grounded for the next couple weeks or so...

As far as progress reports go, I dont go to public school so I dont see him everyday, (I homeschool and do PSEO) but I think God has given me another way to talk to him soon....I cant really say anymore I have to get off before I get in even more trouble ... but thanks to everyone who has helped, Ill update you agin when I get back on!!

Postby **agasfas** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:45 pm

Well, to be honest, perhaps people are over reacting a little... Everyone has different ways of expressing themselvs (sometimes not in the best way), but because we are a diverse community sometimes I think that misunderstandings and arugments arise out of it.

Anways, my advice Kewl Girl is just be honest w/ this guy. Persistent is usually a sign of misunderstanding of not wanting to accept the fact he may have lost a good friend out of his stupidity/ignorance. True, he stopped writing, but sometimes we have to be the bigger person and patch up what is torn; whether or not y'all become friends again or not. Just tell him what bothers you about him, how he's changed and etc... and why you are avoiding him. Try to bridge that gap of misunderstanding. And sadly, fact is people change... and to put it bluntly, we need to drop dead weight at times to move forward. What I mean is sometimes breaking off the friendship to avoid them dragging you down too.

For example I had a friend who who got heavy into drugs and things I didn't agree with. He would change, and I would have no place in that situation or friendship. So I just broke it off. Sad, but sometimes we have to.

(I don't mean "dead weight" to be a jerk or whatever... it's just a term I use for people who drag others down)

So whether y'all become friends again or not is up to you and your personal feelings and what you feel is the right thing to do. If you don't want to be around that kind of atmosphere , then don't. But he at least deserves the truth, and so do you. Getting things into the open is sometimes the best way to get this done with... To see where the old-friendship goes... Just be honest w/ him opposed to avoiding him. We guys tend to be dense at times; we don't always get the hint if we don't understand the situation.

Postby **Mr. SmartyPants** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:49 pm

agasfas wrote:For example I had a friend who who got heavy into drugs and things I didn't agree with. He would change, and I would have no place in that situation or friendship. So I just broke it off. Sad, but sometimes we have to.

that is true... but that should only be used pretty much as the LAST FINAL resort...

Postby **David** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:02 pm

Well I am having the exact same problem and I tell you it is a differcult position to be in.There is this guy who I know is extreemly gothic,he wants to be my freind but then he would get on my nerves by hurting my siblings or deeply offending me.I tried to be a freind to him but I couldn't let him do these things to me.What I did was I showed him kindness but I did not become close friends with him.We are not supposed to become unequally yoked,correct.Your relationships are a big factor in determining your lifestyle.Yes show him kindness but you don't have to build a strong relationship with him.Continue to pray for him everyday and over time he will likely turn in the right direction.

Postby **Kewl Girl** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:23 am

Hey look its David!! :grin:

Thanks everyone for everything (especially the prayers!!)!!! :hug:

No I havent gotten to talk to him yet *sigh* but I guess thats all in Gods own time. Right?.

Anyways heres the update: has begun to attend a Bible study in town (I dont go there anymore because my sis. has dancle classes the same night) and is actually interested in coming to my Youth Group!!

This is exelent news!!! I know that he has been messing around with wicca (or whatever the proper name is for talking to demons and playing with magic is called now a days :shady:

), so this may be difficult for him because a lot of people (from the bible study that is) are telling him that he shouldnt come and are saying mean thins about him... :shady:

I hope that he still comes though. He says that he enjoys it a lot so thats always good to here. :sweat:

I think that is about it as far as I know...Ill post again when I have more news!! :jump:

Postby **termyt** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:34 am

Kewl Girl 16 wrote:...this may be difficult for him because a lot of people (from the bible study that is) are telling him that he shouldnt come and are saying mean thins about him...

The number one thing keeping the lost from finding Christ: Christians.

I hope is interest is genuine and these "well-meaning" Christians don't disuade him from finding the truth.

Postby **Kewl Girl** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:31 pm

GUESS WHAT EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE GAVE HIS LIFE OVER TO GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE SAYS THAT HE DOENT HATE GOD ANYMORE FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HIM !!!!!! AND THAT HE WANTS TO START OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SOOOOO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you everyone for your prayes and everything! They really payed off! Now I hope that he is able to change his life around!!!

Thats about all the news I have so far. Ill keep updating though so you all know how it goes!

Postby **ShiroiHikari** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:50 pm

ooh, wow. awesome. I'll pray for him.

Postby **The Doctor** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:11 pm

Wow.

Once again, God shows what a great strategist He is in bringing this guy to Himself. Using you as well.

I would only warn you to keep praying for him; and don't become very close to him yet. Watch as he grows in Christ and keep praying for him, and for him to find a Godly man to be his mentor.

Postby **termyt** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:36 am

Excellent news! Rejoice! (Actually, I've never joiced for him before, how can I rejoice?)

Joice!

Postby **Kewl Girl** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:13 am

Im gonna keep praying for him... but the mentor thing wont work really... our youth program has shut down except for the regular Sunday nights and the 'Leadership Team' and those are barley being held togehter. Otherwise we used to have a small Biblestudy..one for girls and one for boys... All the adults with free time are already working all they can trying to maintain the Sunday night program. Its been really chaotic.... Our whole curch is going through a really tough time.

But in better news!!! We are having a pizza party and watching the Passion this Sunday at Youth Group hopefully he comes. Heheh but I might not go.... Ive never seen the Passion. We own the movie but I havent watched it yet. See... I have a problem with blood. And thats the reason Ill never be a doctor or anything. I get sick....really sick at the sight of blood. But I plan on going anyway because my older bro. promise if I threw up or got sick he would give me 20 dollars....and if I dont all the better for me... So it should be interesting!!

I could really use some advice...

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