Woe unto the Pretty Ones

[Nate]

Could happen... I suppose it all depends..

Well I personally wouldnt mind being called cute, I mean its much better than 'hot'. .. Perhaps you should say that their pretty, or they look nice. Hmmm... maybe we need to star searching through our dictionaries... ]
*nods*

If you give a girl an honest compliment about her clothing, or hair, or something similar, unless she's a witch with a capital "b," she's not going to slap you or yell at you. Keep in mind, I said an HONEST compliment. "Whoa, you're hot!" is NOT an honest compliment.

All of you females are very pulchritudinous.

Hey, you know how to use a thesaurus. Kudos to you.

[Joshua Christopher]

My comment was half jest, half-serious. I only said that because one of the other posters commented on rather being called "cute" than "hot".

Let that sink in, since what I just said made roughly zero sense.

[Kawaiikneko]

woah I sparked a money discussion...
lol I meant making money off girl's opinions and how to be a gentleman wouldn't be very gentlemanly at all XD

gee thanks... I feel demeened *goes off to cry "art-fully"*

lol if a guy came up to me and told me I was pulchritudinous I'd be impressed but a little bit scared...

[CephasWhite]

:3 Aww *hugs Kawaii* don't cry :3

[Joshua Christopher]

lol if a guy came up to me and told me I was pulchritudinous I'd be impressed but a little bit scared...

If I went up to a person, they would be scared. And I would be happy.

[Cognitive Gear]

Ya know.... I was just thinking about how guys never get wistled at..... and then a strange thought popped into my head.

How long until the femnazi's start wistleing at guys in order to "empower" themselves?

>.<

[The Doctor]

My friend, it's only a matter of time. :-(

[Kewl Girl]

hmm...
What should we call girls?

How about "You're really artificial."

(note, artificial used to mean, in old English, Art-ful).

Oh yes. Tell that to a girl who doesnt memorize dictionaries in her spare time, and you may find your self gettin slapped.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

lol if a guy came up to me and told me I was pulchritudinous I'd be impressed but a little bit scared...

thats either an english major, or a guy who thought you were an english major and tried to hit on you

[agasfas]

I know before hand this may rub some people the wrong way so please forgive me... it's just I really like to expand on my point that beautiful people should be greatful becaus not everyone is that lucky...

Back on the original issue, there was someone who mentioned that beautiful people should be grateful, because it's better than being treated badly because you're not attractive, or something to that effect.

When I hear people complain about how bad it is to be beautiful it just doesn't sit right in my stomach. Now don't get me wrong, I don't agree that guys should make rude comments and gestures... It just seems the people who don't have to work hard or given everything tend to take things in vain- like not knowing how lucky they really are. It's like people complaining they didn't get an I-pod for x-mas and are boasting about their new laptop, DVD collection, jewelry etc. For me, I had to work day in and day out for my things, even my car which is not that great looking. As bad as it looks I can't complain because I know that was the best I could have gotten and it gets me to where I need to go. It may not be worth much, but it means so much more to me because I worked my butt off for it.

And when I see people take certain things for granted I get really annoyed. It's just when I read the title, "Woe unto the Pretty Ones," I don't know about anyone else but that came across a bit hurtful to me and a bit boastful and a bit like bragging on their side (indirectly). It just seemed a bit condescending to me because I'm not close to be considered "handsome," and people want me to feel sorry for beautiful people b/c they have it so bad. Sure they may get bad gestures and I can empathize, but would you honestly change yourself to look unattractive or be considered a freak or dork? I doubt so because human nature wants to be liked and loved. So when I see people complaining about how unlucky they are my thoughts are sarcastic:
"Oh yes, you are so unlucky to be considered beautiful,"
"I'm so sorry you have such an easy time getting a date."

The truth is, many people would give anything to be liked or not be teased about being ugly. Or heck, given a compliment once in a while w/o it being a joke. So please forgive me it this comes off a bit obscure, random, rude or whatever... That’s not my intent. Perhaps I may have read the thread topic incorrectly, but that still doesn’t take away the fact that people should be grateful they are blessed with good looks. Sure it may have some down points, but when you really look at it, you are so very lucky to have people like you. Some have to try a hundred times harder to be liked, or even be considered “boy-friendâ€

[The Doctor]

Hmm....what's your girls vision of the "ideal" man?

[Debitt]

It's human's nature to want what they don't have.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

well agasfas, i dont think the point of being really good looking is an issue. The problem is that other people do wolf-whistles to those who are good looking. Therefore the "woe unto the pretty ones" emerges. But agasfas definately does have a good point

[agasfas]

ell agasfas, i dont think the point of being really good looking is an issue. The problem is that other people do wolf-whistles to those who are good looking.

its just a little thing I've been thinking about...you know how people (girls in particular) would usually like to be prettier or look better than they do. Just wanted to say, "Being pretty sucks." I loathe having guys stare at my butt and/or honk at me while I walk to the bus stop. It used to be flattering, then amusing, now just plain irritating. And some guys only like to hang around me cause of how I look--I became friends with a guy who was an anime fan, but then later I found out that he was hanging out with me and following me around school just because I looked like his ex-girlfriend.

So be proud of your huge nose, bug-eyes or lovehandles. you might want them back.

I understand that much, I was just saying how the thread came off as, "guys can be jerks at times... But I wanted to talk about it to bring up how beautiful I am." I know that wasn't the intent, that's just how I interpreted ... I felt it was implied indirectly, and that's why I felt a bit hurt.

Edit: I don't mean to offend anyone or the creator of this thread, I was just interpreting my inital thoughts... nothing more. So if I did offend anyone, I apologize

[Cognitive Gear]

agasfas, I agree with you. However, the reason that I did not bring up those points is because I had never taken the time to think of those particular downsides ... I only saw the obvious ups. I'm not trying to attack you, so if it sounds like it, I'm sorry.

I've never been an atractlive person, nor do I desire to be. I prefer to force the girl to like me for who I am inside. (although, I will admit that looks might help me meet someone >.<)

I think it's just that most of the time, people only see the ups. This is a place where the less-seen downsides can be talked about.

[Yeshua-Knight]

i must say, it's a shame that it's taken so much of this going on before we as christian young men took a stand and made our presence know to others, it's like we've been undercover all this time

[The Doctor]

hmm....the problem is that alot of young Christian guys don't have alot of people out there to teach them how to be real Godly men. It's sad.

We all need a Godly man mentor (sorry ladies, but we guys need a MAN to show us the way) to show us what it takes, and affirm us.

[Hikage_Ninja]

Wow...20 pages. Good gravy. Sorry I wasn't able to read it all...I stopped around page...12, so if I repeat something that's already been said, I apologize.

I don't consider myself particularly good looking or anything...but I've been called "cute" ...A LOT... Fortunately I look like I'm about 3 years younger than I really am...so I don't really have too much trouble. Oh yes...that and I'm home educated and don't really go anywhere...much. But I have had some crazy cases of some really odd boys being attracted to me. Such as the one boy who was like..."I live off of you like fungus." Yes...he really said that to me...and some other boys who don't understand the words "No" and "I have a boyfriend." One guy actually had the nerve to ask me what his chances were of sleeping with me. O.o

But within all those jerks I know there's really A LOT of nice guys out there... I've met several and...I don't really get out much. Actually, the majority of my friends...ARE guys... (I only have about 2 friends that are girls...for some reason I just get along much better with guys....>.>).

Also...I found a really great guy...who is now my boyfriend of...oh...let's see...16 months...as of yesterday. And as people mentioned...it is better to be friends with them first. He and I were friends for a while before he asked me out...and he actually waited 5 months before he got up the courage to do so. >_< He is one of those guys that...opens the door for me...and pulls out my chair...and such; very chivalrous. He's very much a gentleman. But above being a great boyfriend, he's also one of my best friends and also shares my faith.

As for guys that catcall and make rude comments on a girls' attractiveness...yes indeed...it's irritating, degrading, infuriating...etc. But it's definitely not our problem; it's theirs as long as we're not flaunting our beauty or running around scantily clad. When I see a girl going around in immodest dress, it just makes my stomach turn and I think "Goodness, how can someone disrespect themselves so much." And if they're being disrespected by guys because of it...no, it's not right...but it's inevitable because of the way they look... Guys have been scientifically proven to be much more visual in such things than girls.

As for girls putting up with guys that treat them badly... no, I don't really understand it myself...and I've never been put in that situation...but my best friend's boyfriend did something...absolutely horrible to her, not physically, but emotionally...(not going to get all into it...but it was something about lying a lot...and trying to get back with his old girlfriend while still dating her...blah blah) and she did the right thing and broke up with him. But she was telling me...that...even though she knew what he did was so bad, she wanted to get back with him...so much...and that she could kind of understand how those girls stayed with their abusive boyfriends because...you really think that they'll change. That they'll never do such a thing again...and you always want to give them a second chance because you love them so much. In a relationship...especially in a long-term one...it's almost frightening how emotionally attached you become to the person....

I'd much rather go out with someone for their personality and intelligence than for looks. And actually...I've realized that if you are going out with someone...maybe not so attractive but has a wonderful personality...that with time you'll slowly find yourself thinking that they are becoming more physically attractive as time goes on and as you get to know them better. Or maybe that's a me thing.

Either way...I'm not sure exactly what the point of my post was...except maybe to share some of my experiences... but in short...be happy with what God gives you, you'll be given crosses no matter what it is...whether it's beauty, intelligence, talent, or the lack of them...but in all situations...bear those crosses patiently because we're all children of God. Even the berks who are disrepectul and catcall and make rude comments. Of course...I'm not saying to let them walk all over you, do what you can to make them stop as long as you're not fueling their actions....but just remember that their actions are shallow...so try not to let it cut you too deep.

Sorry if I made no sense whatsoever... I'm not very good at explaining myself...

[termyt]

QUOTE=Hikage_Ninja]
As for guys that catcall and make rude comments on a girls' attractiveness...yes indeed...it's irritating, degrading, infuriating...etc. But it's definitely not our problem; it's theirs as long as we're not flaunting our beauty or running around scantily clad. [/quote]

I'm tired of hearing the line "I should be able to wear whatever I want..." That's garbage. You can do whatever you want, but you must also face the consequences of doing so. I should be able to run down the streets of Cleveland wearing nothing but a thong and singing "Dixie" with out getting the crap kicked out of me by the Bloods, but I don't expect that to be the outcome. Respect the natural tendencies of your brothers and don't cause them to stumble. If they stumble, it will be on their own heads, but do you really want to be a part of that?

I've realized that if you are going out with someone...maybe not so attractive but has a wonderful personality...that with time you'll slowly find yourself thinking that they are becoming more physically attractive as time goes on and as you get to know them better. Or maybe that's a me thing.

This actually goes along with what I was saying about first impressions. It's the next step. If you know nothing of the person, you will make a judgment based on physical appearance - not only beauty but cleanliness and dress, etc. As you get to know someone, first impressions melt away and are replaced by things with more substance like their intelligence and personality. If you get to know someone before meeting them, like we are getting to know each other here, then your impressions of that person will be shaped just as much (if not more) by what you know about the person's personality as it is by physical appearance.


Here's what I've learned from this thread:

1) Beautiful people have problems because of their appearance, too.

2) SirThinksTooMuch is very attractive IRL.

3) Women don't like too much attention.

4) Women don't like being ignored.

5) SirThinksTooMuch is very attractive IRL.

6) Some people who may not consider themselves attractive are still attractive to some members of the opposite sex.

7) Holding doors open for people is still a big issue in the “gender wars.â€

[dragonshimmer]

It's just when I read the title, "Woe unto the Pretty Ones," I don't know about anyone else but that came across a bit hurtful to me and a bit boastful and a bit like bragging on their side (indirectly). It just seemed a bit condescending to me because I'm not close to be considered "handsome," and people want me to feel sorry for beautiful people b/c they have it so bad

Although I know it wasn't intended that way, I'm sure, I took it the exact same way, agasfas. You are not the only one. I don't feel so bad now.

To expand a little upon what termyt said:

I know most of you ladies have stated that you are very careful about what you wear, and I'm really glad to hear that. For those of you who aren't...don't wear tight/revealing/provocative clothes and expect for someone NOT to stare or make comments. Whether you realize or not, when you put on that type of clothing you're subconsciously asking for attention of some sort. Why else would you put it on? So...don't throw knives at a guy for reacting to such like that, because that was the intention for those kinds of clothing. I'm careful about what I wear, but if I put on something that attracts a little attention, I know I'm walking into a battlefield, and I dodge accordingly without complaint.

[Heart of Sword]

but would you honestly change yourself to look unattractive or be considered a freak or dork?

I'm honestly not too sure. (Maybe to get guys to like me for who I am, at least.)

[vash10429]

personally as a dud i apperance! it never really affects me much at school but then supposed to be at working i sometimes think that being good looking takes from studying habit skills

[Heart of Sword]

BTW, Vash, your signature actually managed to scare me. o_O....(offtopic, sorry)

[Mr. SmartyPants]

it really frightens me too XD

[Mangafanatic]

BTW, Vash, your signature actually managed to scare me. o_O....(offtopic, sorry)

Everytime I see it, something in me cries "FOR PITY'S SAKE, GIVE THAT LITTLE BROWN MAN A NOSE!!"

[Debitt]

Everytime I see it, something in me cries "FOR PITY'S SAKE, GIVE THAT LITTLE BROWN MAN A NOSE!!"

I think something along the lines of: "WHY DOES GEORGE FOREMAN HAVE SPARKLY SHOUJO EYES?!"

[Kewl Girl]

Yes that picture is very..disturbing...

[Kawaiikneko]

Wow... thats strange O_O

[Joshua Christopher]

I'm loving the fact that this topic has imploded.

[PrincessZelda]

Hahaha! Though, that picture is pretty scary... O_o