Alright everyone, easy. We have enough persecution against us without tearing into one another! So please everyone, try to keep this thread civil and courteous, even when you don't agree with one another.
As for the homeschooling being bad for your social life, I beg to disagree. I had a rather strange schooling--3 years homeschool, 3 years private Christian, 6 years public--in that order. When I was homeschooled, I hung out a lot with other homeschooled kids on field trips and stuff, had friends in the neighborhood I'd play with after they got home from school, etc. Personally, I want to home school my children first, until about 6th grade and then give them a public education. Homeschooling gave me a firm foundation not only in my faith, since I grew up in a Christian home, but also in my intellectual strengths. By the time I got to public school, I was not afraid to speak up and participate, and didn't care as much for being made fun of. And high school gave me a number of opportunities to be involved in things like latin and journalism my parents couldn't have taught me.
Homeschooling in Japan article
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I was warning you before I took action on one of your posts. Next time you post somthing ignorant, it will simply be snipped from the post. If you don't like how an Admin warns you on somthing...find a site where there not there. And further....how am i starting a flame war? I'm simply saying it would suck. It is my opinion and considering this is a forum, I believe i'm entitled to my opinion. otherwise, what is the point of a forum?
Man, you must have been quite a nerd to get picked on that much!
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Just kidding. Actually, I've heard people say that they had MORE homework while being homeschooled.
Comments like that will be snipped as well. Adding a just kidding does not excuse being ignorant. If I said, wow you have become a flamming hemroid to CAA as of late....just kidding. Would that make you feel any better? I doubt it. Consider this your final warning before you start getting strikes. I hope you can cool it down and not push the staffs hand on this.
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Stephen - Posts: 7744
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Maybe I missed the point from the beginnng, but what I'm seeing in this article is not so much a beginnng of a home school movement as it is attempting to help a student that can't fit into the normal society. Unless they're willing to make some accomodations to give these students school credit, this kid is going to have some serious problems when it comes time for "exam hell" prepping for college-- not because the education is substandard to the regular education (for all I know it could be an improvement) but because it seems that right now, the Japanese government doesn't see this as acredited schooling.
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Arnobius - Posts: 2870
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I've mostly been to public school my whole life and I must admit I found homeschooling pretty awkward to me at first. I only learnt of it when I came to the U.S!
In those years, I had one experience of being bullied and probably a few times of being disciplined by teachers physically (ouch). Peer pressure and academic competitiveness was pretty intense. Sounds like a tough environment, huh? Yeah it was.
BUT when I think about it further, I would say that I was "homeschooled" very well at home by my parents from a moral standpoint of view. Sure, they could not give me academic lessons but they were there for me whenever I came home from school to share with them with my experiences in school. They strengthened me from the inside (moral values and spirituality) so the outside had little impact on me. I had little problems dealing with peer pressure and stress that comes from competitiveness and unpleasant individuals because I knew my family and friends I made would back me up anytime.
For that reason, I'm fine with public school AS LONG as parents/family provide the love, support and moral education at home as they were SUPPOSED TO. I suspect that some parents who send their children to public schools don't even spend time with them at home. I'm pretty sure that homeschooling has its merits and advantages. Come to think of it, I was homeschooled in my early 5 years of life. My mum did teach me and brother writing, reading and some maths before we started to go to kindergarden school and onwards. It did help prepare us for the public school system.
So yeah, I support both systems as long as the kids receive adequate support and guidance from home. IMO, if the influence from home is strong, the kid is going to be able to withstand the world outside.
And to keep to the topic, ehh....I wish the same for the Japanese. I don't care what education system is established as long as the kids grow up to be responsible and mature individuals.
In those years, I had one experience of being bullied and probably a few times of being disciplined by teachers physically (ouch). Peer pressure and academic competitiveness was pretty intense. Sounds like a tough environment, huh? Yeah it was.
BUT when I think about it further, I would say that I was "homeschooled" very well at home by my parents from a moral standpoint of view. Sure, they could not give me academic lessons but they were there for me whenever I came home from school to share with them with my experiences in school. They strengthened me from the inside (moral values and spirituality) so the outside had little impact on me. I had little problems dealing with peer pressure and stress that comes from competitiveness and unpleasant individuals because I knew my family and friends I made would back me up anytime.
For that reason, I'm fine with public school AS LONG as parents/family provide the love, support and moral education at home as they were SUPPOSED TO. I suspect that some parents who send their children to public schools don't even spend time with them at home. I'm pretty sure that homeschooling has its merits and advantages. Come to think of it, I was homeschooled in my early 5 years of life. My mum did teach me and brother writing, reading and some maths before we started to go to kindergarden school and onwards. It did help prepare us for the public school system.
So yeah, I support both systems as long as the kids receive adequate support and guidance from home. IMO, if the influence from home is strong, the kid is going to be able to withstand the world outside.
And to keep to the topic, ehh....I wish the same for the Japanese. I don't care what education system is established as long as the kids grow up to be responsible and mature individuals.
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Mave - Posts: 3662
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I hope the admins don't take this the wrong way. I just feel that as someone who was homeschooled all there life I should speak.
One of the biggest things people are saying is stiffled social life. I definatly was not stifled. I socialized with many families that also homeschooled. I made friends and enjoyed there company. My mother also has the belief that public school offers an artificial enviorment. (I am not trying to diss public school. I know people who went to public school and are fine individuals) She believes that it is not true to the real world to have all the 6th graders in one room and all the 7th graders in another. In the real world all ages are mingaled. Seperating them is artificial. That is why she liked to let us socialize with kids above and below our age. Doing so you learn to interact with all age groups.
As to the ability of the parent to teach, my mother went to college to be a teacher. Now, in my life, I see this as God preparing her to teach me and my siblings. But even with that education there where times when she learned right along with me. When we got to a point, mostly in the higher algebras, where she was having trouble she would discuss it with a family friend who is also a teacher. I fully understand that not every parent has the ability to homeschool for one reason or another. If that is the case I fully agree with Mave. The parent must be there for there children and give them strong moral guidence. The parent is the entity in a childs life that should mold them into the individual God has called them to be.
Also as to the point of being prepared for college. When I finished high school and took the placment test for my local college I tested in at Level 151 math and 101 english. My counelor took one look at my scores and asked me why I wasn't full time. Even then I have aced all but one of the classes I have taken. Math 151 was like a rehash of what my mother tought me in high school. My mom pushed me hard and even though I got C's in high school english all four years for the most part, because she held me to such a standard getting A's in english 101 and 102 was easy for me. I flunked algebra 2 the first time around and had to take it again, and because she had me do it again I scored an 98% on math 151.
Please, please understand that I am not flaming public schools. I will only say that I echo Mave's post. If a parent doesn't have the ability to educate there child at home they must make sure they are the ones teaching there child morality and not the public school system. I plan to homeschool my children because I feel it has so much to offer a child.
With that said I will cease ranting
One of the biggest things people are saying is stiffled social life. I definatly was not stifled. I socialized with many families that also homeschooled. I made friends and enjoyed there company. My mother also has the belief that public school offers an artificial enviorment. (I am not trying to diss public school. I know people who went to public school and are fine individuals) She believes that it is not true to the real world to have all the 6th graders in one room and all the 7th graders in another. In the real world all ages are mingaled. Seperating them is artificial. That is why she liked to let us socialize with kids above and below our age. Doing so you learn to interact with all age groups.
As to the ability of the parent to teach, my mother went to college to be a teacher. Now, in my life, I see this as God preparing her to teach me and my siblings. But even with that education there where times when she learned right along with me. When we got to a point, mostly in the higher algebras, where she was having trouble she would discuss it with a family friend who is also a teacher. I fully understand that not every parent has the ability to homeschool for one reason or another. If that is the case I fully agree with Mave. The parent must be there for there children and give them strong moral guidence. The parent is the entity in a childs life that should mold them into the individual God has called them to be.
Also as to the point of being prepared for college. When I finished high school and took the placment test for my local college I tested in at Level 151 math and 101 english. My counelor took one look at my scores and asked me why I wasn't full time. Even then I have aced all but one of the classes I have taken. Math 151 was like a rehash of what my mother tought me in high school. My mom pushed me hard and even though I got C's in high school english all four years for the most part, because she held me to such a standard getting A's in english 101 and 102 was easy for me. I flunked algebra 2 the first time around and had to take it again, and because she had me do it again I scored an 98% on math 151.
Please, please understand that I am not flaming public schools. I will only say that I echo Mave's post. If a parent doesn't have the ability to educate there child at home they must make sure they are the ones teaching there child morality and not the public school system. I plan to homeschool my children because I feel it has so much to offer a child.
With that said I will cease ranting
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That's me locked inside reality's maze
Come someone make my heavy heart light
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Kenshin17 - Posts: 860
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I think it's clear that the home schooled on this site do not feel like they've suffered socially. That's good, since that's the biggest knock I hear about home schooling in general.
But back to the article, I'm under the impression that most Japanese families would never even consider home schooling. The article kind of backed that up by mentioning that only two to three thousand Japanese children are home schooled and some of those were done as a last resort. Anyway, the Japanese consider school to be a critically important part of growing up. It's interesting to see how some of those thoughts are changing. I also really appreciated the tone of the article. Even though home schooling is far from normal in Japan, the tone the writer used was professional, and even positive toward home schooling. Part of the differences between the US and Japan, I'm sure, but most news reports on home schooling I've seen here in the states have had very negative tones, even though it is a lot more common here.
But back to the article, I'm under the impression that most Japanese families would never even consider home schooling. The article kind of backed that up by mentioning that only two to three thousand Japanese children are home schooled and some of those were done as a last resort. Anyway, the Japanese consider school to be a critically important part of growing up. It's interesting to see how some of those thoughts are changing. I also really appreciated the tone of the article. Even though home schooling is far from normal in Japan, the tone the writer used was professional, and even positive toward home schooling. Part of the differences between the US and Japan, I'm sure, but most news reports on home schooling I've seen here in the states have had very negative tones, even though it is a lot more common here.
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