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Postby sanitysux13 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:07 pm

I just read that it's due out on July 16th. Go to yahoo if you wanna see more.
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Postby Scribs » Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:58 pm

Regarding Krum,
I had never really thought about that age difference, so that is a bit sketchy. I don't think he could be the halfblood prince, because he atteneded Durmstrang which sounds a bit too "pure blooded" for a "halfblood"

Regarding the release date,
Hurah! just in time for my Birthday! I was afraid we would have to wait for another year or two.

the betting odds as to who will die have Hagrid leading the pack. Dumbledore and McGonogal are in second. then cho chang in third, and in fourth, Fred and/or George

I think Cho is a good bet (not that I would wager money on it) but I doubt that Dumbledore will die yet.
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Postby Rachel » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:41 pm

sanitysux13 wrote:I just read that it's due out on July 16th.

Dude! That's my birthday!

You're right, Mangafanatic. I don't think she would do that. I was just kind of hyper when I typed out that post. It wouldn't be too bad if Hermione wound up with Ron I guess. But I'm holding out that it will be Harry she hooks up with.

I'm not sure what to think about Krum, but I think that he will have a major role to play somewhere down the line.

As for people dying, what do y'all think about Rowling killing off Harry? In the prophecy it said that either Harry or Voldemort had to die. I know that if I was writing the books I would definitely kill off Harry. It would totally not be what most people would be expecting. But maybe if Cho dies, Harry will turn to Hermione for comfort and they will fall in love and yadda, yadda, yadda. (Can you guys tell I'm a hopeless romantic yet?) Then she couldn't kill off Harry. Or maybe she would then if they get together because it would be even more unexpected than the thought of her killing Harry off . Anyways, that's just what I think.
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Postby Scribs » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:06 pm

I really doubt that Harry and Hermione will hook up. She is far too studius. There has been little to no indication that anything of the kind will happen. By the way, I just thought of a charachter that noone has mentioned so far. That french girl, Fleuer Delacour (not sure of spelling). Could she have a major part in the plot? I think not, but I could be wrong.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:03 am

Hmm, I don't really think Cho's gonna get the ax. It seems Harry doesn't have any feelings for her anymore, so I don't really think that would be much of a tear jerker moment. (I for one, can't stand Cho, so I wouldn't be disappointed at all. I feel a little heartless saying that, but she's a literary characters so I won't worry about it. :lol: ) My money's all on Snape getting it in this book. I say that for several reasons. First, I think Voldemort's gonna make Snape account for why he changed sides, and that might be the source of his demise. Also, on a more minor note, Harry has to pass Double Potions to become an Auror, and I think his chances of passing the class under Snape's supervision are slim. So maybe Rowling will take it easy on the poor guy and give him a new potions master.

And concerning Krum, I know Durstang is a big "full-blood" school, but Sytherin is a big "full blood" house. And yet who is one of the most famous Slytherins of all time? Voldemort, a person we now know to be a half blood. My personal feelings about Krum are that he is a half blood but he was a llowed into the school because he's so famous and talented. Being a public figure opens door that often would otherwise have remained closed to you, and I'm guessing this is the case with Mr. Krum. If Victor is the Half-blood Prince, I most certainly hope the HBP is a bad guy.

Die, Victor---- die!!! Bwa ha ha ha ha!!!

And Rachel, take heart. My gut instict say that someone in the Hogwarts threesome will die before the end *sob sob*. It obviously can't be Harry, atleast not until the finaly confrontation with Voldemort (in which I believe Neville Longbottom will die *sob again* ). I think that Rowling is gonna set up Hermione and Ron in book Six and then kill Ron about half way through seven. That'll make room for our Hermione-Harry couple (although they will have to get together in a HURRY). Too bad Ron has to get the boot for it to be possible, though. Oh, and don't ask me exactly why I think that. It's just women's intuition. ;)
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Postby Rachel » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:50 pm

[quote="Mangafanatic"]It's just women's intuition. ]
Yes! That's why I think that all of this buildup between Ron and Hermionie is just Rowling's way of setting us all up to make us think that they will get together.

I''l be really sad if Ron does die. When they make a movie of it I won't be able to watch. *sheds tear for Rupert Grint*

Yes! Another person who doesn't like Cho!

Hmm, what if Snape and McGonagall got together? Just a thought.
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Postby Scribs » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:42 pm

I don't like cho either. I hope she dies.

McGonogal and Snape? I doubt it. Humerous idea none the less.

It could be that Everyone will die and voldemort will win. I would be suprised at least. I would find it rather humerous.
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Postby madphilb » Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:49 pm

There is the possiblity that the whole 7 years is a dream too.... wouldn't that be a groaner of a twist! :O
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Postby Rachel » Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:10 pm

That would really suck but I don't think Rowling would do that.
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Postby Aka-chan » Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:20 pm

I'm not a Cho fan, but I don't hate her. It's not like she was half-hysterical for no reason. I'm glad Harry didn't stay with her, though.

I'd be horribly upset if Ron died. Even more than I'd be if Harry died. I'm also hoping hard that Malfoy sticks around. I enjoy his nasty little character very much. ^__^

*twitches at the idea of McGonagall/Snape*

I think the whole thing’s just way too logical and consistent to be a dream. ;)
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Postby ZiP » Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:57 pm

Blast! Someone's beaten me to posting the release date!
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Postby Mangafanatic » Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:33 pm

Snape-McGonagal? I think not. She's too old for him, if I'm not very much mistaken. Furthermore, I think alot of the staff views him as a necessary evil. He serves his putpose and does good work, but he's not a very fun person to be around.

So "No". I simply won't allow them to get together. ;)

piloswine wrote:It could be that Everyone will die and voldemort will win. I would be suprised at least. I would find it rather humerous.


Unless Rowling changes the very nature of the books into Adult literature rather than childrens books, I doubt it. It's simply too tramatic to kill of ALL the main characters in a series of books intended for adolescence. Someone will probably die, yes. But not everyone, IMHO.

I seriously doubt that Voldemort will win. He might kill Harry, but he won't win. Through all of her books, Rowling has consistantly reinforced the idea that "Good triumphs over evil", even when that vitory is bought at a vicious price *sobs something about [spoiler]Sirius*.[/spoiler]

Sorry about being beat to the release date ZiP, but I guess I'm a little glad you didn't give it or I'd be forced to hurt you. I mean--- JULY IS SO FAR AWAY!! *pulls out hair*
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Postby ZiP » Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:16 am

*Narrows eyes*

I no like you no more...

Snape/McGonagal, if they were to get together, we would've had hints throughout the series.
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Postby Rachel » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:09 pm

That's probably true.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Sun Dec 26, 2004 8:02 pm

Yeah, if they get together-- that will be OFFICIALLY weird.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby ZiP » Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:53 am

Yeah, there have been weirder ones though (Remus/Molly).
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Postby sanitysux13 » Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:49 am

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before or not cuz i'm too lazy to go back and read the other posts again, but what if [spoiler] Dumbledore is the half-blood prince?[/spoiler]
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:55 am

ZiP wrote:Yeah, there have been weirder ones though (Remus/Molly).



Especially considering the fact that SHE'S ALREADY MARRIED!! *finally takes a breath* Yes, that would be terribly wrong.

But speaking of Remus, there are alot or rumors flying around that Remus had a major crush on Lily at one time, and we're going to find that out before the end. Any thoughts on this one?

And About Dumbledore being the Half Blood prince-- well, it's possible. But I think it's going to be someone more obscure. No particular reason I think that. I just do. ;)
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Mon Dec 27, 2004 3:03 pm

Remus... I don't recall too many hints in the books that he might have had feelings for Lily. He at one point made a comment about how kind she had been, but I don't think it ws supposed to mean any thing deeper than that.

There is no reason why Dumbledore shouldn't be the Prince, but I also don't think that he would be a prince, he is more of a king.
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Postby Rachel » Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:37 pm

ZiP wrote:Yeah, there have been weirder ones though (Remus/Molly).

What?! When did this happen? I never noticed anything like this!

But Remus having had a crush on Lily, that's something that I could see.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:51 pm

Rachel wrote:What?! When did this happen? I never noticed anything like this!

But Remus having had a crush on Lily, that's something that I could see.


The Molly Remus thing never happened. But as for the Remus-Lily thing, read back thorugh the flashback in OotP with this theory in mind, and you might see there's more than you thought.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:39 am

One thing that I noticed in the previous books was that seemingly pointless events and charachters had a large effect on the final outcome. can anyone think of any pointless events that happened in the previous books that could be clues to the outcome of the next book or of the series as a whole?

(I love this thread too much to let it sink back into the depths of obscurity.)
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Postby Aka-chan » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:26 pm

I want to know if Blaise Zabini will have any significance. He's a Slytherin in Harry's year, and yet he hasn't been mentioned since their Sorting. He hasn't even appeared in Draco's Slytherin entourage. I know the fans just use him as the extra Slytherin whenever they need one, but I'd like to know what he means to the canon storyline.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:04 pm

Aka-chan wrote:I want to know if Blaise Zabini will have any significance. He's a Slytherin in Harry's year, and yet he hasn't been mentioned since their Sorting. He hasn't even appeared in Draco's Slytherin entourage. I know the fans just use him as the extra Slytherin whenever they need one, but I'd like to know what he means to the canon storyline.


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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:05 pm

I have no doubt that peeves will be important, though I have my doubts about Blaise Zabini

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Postby Arnobius » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:32 pm

If you know where you're going to be, why not have it sent to you via B&N or Amazon? WHen they try to make deadlines, sometimes the books arrive early ;) Then YOU can be the one to post all the secrets on line...
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Postby Nate » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:39 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:I simply know that when I get back someone is going to give away a major plot element. Alas! I shall wear black for weeks!

I know...sucks, don't it? I hate trying to find pictures of an anime series on a fan site, and then I see a stupid SPOILER SITTING RIGHT THERE WITH NO WARNING!!! :mutter: :mutter: :mutter:

Sigh...I just wish some people would let others actually ENJOY a series without ruining it for them... ><
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kaemmerite wrote:I know...sucks, don't it? I hate trying to find pictures of an anime series on a fan site, and then I see a stupid SPOILER SITTING RIGHT THERE WITH NO WARNING!!! :mutter: :mutter: :mutter:

Sigh...I just wish some people would let others actually ENJOY a series without ruining it for them... ><



AHHH!!! You hear that, you spoiler people! Stop that abomitable behavior immediately!
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Arnobius » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:55 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:AHHH!!! You hear that, you spoiler people! Stop that abomitable behavior immediately!

Well, with the Harry Potter hype tending to reach the hysterical levels and Rowling's lawyers making the lawyers from Microsoft looking like Mother Teresa, posting spoilers for the next volume is something I'd like to do (properly marked of course)-- especially after the way they overhyped the "somebody's going to die" bit when Rowling put all the main chara in peril just to try to keep you guessing (As an aside the person who did die [see, I can be nice and keep secrets], was my number 2 guess, because I knew he would have to be a fairly minor character-- or at least useless to the story [Hagrid was my #1 guess since he was useless enough to not be needed but popular enough to shock people])
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Postby Scribs » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:52 pm

Hagrid is a rather useless lout isn't he.
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