A Good Manga... and then it happens

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A Good Manga... and then it happens

Postby Linksquest » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:28 pm

How many times has this happened to you? Your reading what you think is great manga. I mean, the jokes are hilarious, the anime is superb, and the storyline is amazing. You get to page 30, and then you flip the page to find... naked characters!!! ahh!!! I mean... is that really necessary?!?!?!? How many times has it happened to you, and how did you react? Did you continue reading it hoping it would get better, closingyour eyes to the nakedness, or did you shut it immediatly?
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Postby Mave » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:06 pm

Ohhhhh yeah! I get that all the time!! Not necesarily manga but artbooks and anime as well. You're watching/reading/drooling over the lovely art, great characters and fun plot and suddenly, out of the blue, all the unnecessary *fanservicey* nudity exposes themselves in all their glory.

In the case of nudity, I usually continue to read it hoping it would get better. But if I see that a few more times after that, amplified with premarital sex? NO MORE. -_-;;;
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Postby kaji » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:23 pm

Guahhhhh!!!!! I despise that so much!!!! *sobs*
Just once, ONCE!!! I would like to find a great story that is not corrupted by some form of that useless trash!!!! *sobs some more* (I have found good stories, but why do they always do that to the Great ones!?)

That is probably the number one reason why my wife won’t watch most anime with me. Those instances when you think every thing is great, good story, great art, fun characters, clean humor, and then BAM! Some naked or half naked scene leaps out at you.
I remember feeling really embarrassed. Because I don’t think that kind of stuff is cool, but here it is, right in the show I’m watching with my friends. Now I feel like I have to ‘screen’ anything before I watch it with some one else…

Even if its not ‘premarital sex’, I still don’t want to see it…

Gah! This whole thing really bugs me.
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Postby Linksquest » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:32 pm

yeah... its almost as if you want them to delete those scenes entirely. That would be cool if they make something that can delete those scenes in anime. Or a company who makes preedited anime, for christians... hmmm... what do you think?
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I give props to these ANIMEs/MANGAs: GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES, AZUMANGA DAIOH, MONSTER, SAILOR MOON SERIES, AKAGE NO ANNE, BOTTLE FAIRY, MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO, HOWL'S MOVING CASTLE, PARANOIA AGENT, YAKITATE!! JAPAN, UTAWARERUMONO, KANON, FULL MOON WO SAGASHITE, & YOTSUBA&!

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Postby That Dude » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:41 pm

Man that happens with way too many mangas...For me it depends if it's fanservicy...There is some nudity that I'm ok with...Like in "clean" anatomy books. but I've been trying to keep away from the ones with nudity. That'd be cool if they edited that stuff better.
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Postby SnowLeopard » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:57 pm

I know EXACTICALLY hoe you guys feel. I don't read much manga, but I've been in that exact situation with manga drawing books.


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Postby Solid Ronin » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:58 pm

Im very touchy about this subject..it all depend on how much I like the manga like Naruto..once i saw the "Ninja canterfold" I was reconsidering buying it then I said..waitaminute!!! This is the best manga I've ever read!! theregore I kept on reading.
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Postby c-girl » Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:44 pm

Linksquest wrote:How many times has this happened to you? Your reading what you think is great manga. I mean, the jokes are hilarious, the anime is superb, and the storyline is amazing. You get to page 30, and then you flip the page to find... naked characters!!! ahh!!! I mean... is that really necessary?!?!?!? How many times has it happened to you, and how did you react? Did you continue reading it hoping it would get better, closingyour eyes to the nakedness, or did you shut it immediatly?


Too many times that has happened to me.... too many times... >-.-<;;;
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:50 pm

This is why I own no manga. (Although I really should pick up some RK manga, it's good)

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Postby RoyalWing » Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:48 pm

When it really bugs me in a comic book, I cover the square or page with an image (I'm am not missing anything because those things usually have nothing to do with the stories~)
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Postby Mangafanatic » Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:42 pm

Yeah. . . this thread's totally being moved. ;)

Well, I generally quit reading a manga when that happens. But, honestly, very rarely can we say we didn't have any warning. I mean, if you pick a older teen (or a teen, for that matter) rated manga. it will probably have some level or nudity. We are warned. (plus, if wanna avoid being shocked, ask about a manga in the manga forum before you read it. We'll help you as best we can. ;))
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Gypsy » Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:16 pm

I'll scan through manga before actually purchasing or reading it. A quick flip-through will usually make it clear what's in the manga as far as art content.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:27 am

This has happened quite a bit to me, though I generally don't just randomly read manga. But friends do give it to me at random, and I feel obligated to read it.

I agree, move the thread.
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Postby Kisa » Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:42 pm

*sigh*
You have stumbled upon a very good point . . . I have had this happen way too much before . . . some examples are Alice 19th and Fushigi Yugi . . . they are so good and get you hooked then BAM! there it goes . . . so sad . . . You can edit the manga however by using the pen or sharoie on it ^^ very good way to edit your own manga ^^
Yes and definitley watch the ratings . . . T you can or may not have bad stuff, OT you will have bad stuff . . .
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Postby Linksquest » Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:17 pm

Yeah... and the hardest part is, you want to read the rest of the storyline, but you feel in your spirit that you shouldnt cause more bad stuff might be somewhere else within the paper covers of the book
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I give props to these ANIMEs/MANGAs: GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES, AZUMANGA DAIOH, MONSTER, SAILOR MOON SERIES, AKAGE NO ANNE, BOTTLE FAIRY, MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO, HOWL'S MOVING CASTLE, PARANOIA AGENT, YAKITATE!! JAPAN, UTAWARERUMONO, KANON, FULL MOON WO SAGASHITE, & YOTSUBA&!

LINKSQUEST's PASSIONS are: READING (especially books by authors: Lois Lowry, L.M. Montgomery, Ray Bradbury, C.S. Lewis) WRITING, SINGING, ACTING, COMPOSING, PIANO, PHOTOGRAPHY, ART, COOKING, MYST series, ZELDA series,OLD TIME RADIO , New Time Radio, SPANISH, LANGUAGES, and the list goes on.
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Postby Yeito » Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:44 pm

I know how it is. *sigh* Uber annoying.

:wonders how much to say: Hm..

Well I usually close the book a moment at least. If its really bad I don't want to finish it. If its not what ya'll said 'fanservicy' then i'll skip that block and go on. But.. my reason for not liking it is cause.... I've had some problems with that. I don't really think anyone on here knew (_ _) but I suppose the truth has to come out sometime.

It's a rather long story, and I think I'm finally progressing in my battle against it. So thats the good thing. I do my best to stand strong, and I've actually taken a kind of leave from reading or watching anime/manga for a while. Just cause I kept running into stuff like that when I least expected it. I still come on here to just see whats new and how everyone is.

Well... I'm sorry that this never came up before or anything. (_ _) maybe I should have done one of those things where you introduce yourself and stuff... I'm really sorry. I'll go now. Bye for now..

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Postby Keckhs » Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:58 pm

I've had that problem a few times before in my drawing books. It's really sad. I usually just try not to look at that page. The Japanese are more tollerant of nudity then we are, unfortunately. To a Nihonjin, Looking at pornography is an ordinarry thing. I think they might need our prayers most of all.
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Postby Aka-chan » Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:22 am

I usually have to look away at least for a moment, but if it doesn't look like it'll be a major theme, I'll stick with the manga. That's why I tend to keep sticky tabs handy, after all. Sometimes when I have friends or siblings in my room, they flip randomly through my manga, and I'd prefer they accidentally run across a post-it-censored page than a full-out moment of fanservice. (And, personally, I'd rather it be that way when I read it too.)
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Postby MorwenLaicoriel » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:58 pm

I've only recently really gotten into reading manga and watching anime. (Before I just watched anime on TV, so it was, of course, edited and things like that.) So far, I haven't seen any nudity--mostly because I've been so careful about what I read or watch. (For example, even though my friend likes Chobits, he was quick to say "Don't read it, you won't like it.") I wouldn't be surprised if I accidentally run into it one of these days. ^^;;; My greatest fear is that I'll rent out something or get something from my library, and my parents will walk in the room and RIGHT THEN nudity will happen.
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:17 pm

Ya, I hate this. It's because of Anime and Manga that I've been "desensitized". I edit ALL of my Manga. Any frontal nudity is, *KA-BLAM!* Edited. Wether with pen or whiteout. Most of the time, I'll just draw a swimming suit on them to make it tolerable. Or if the page isn't really needed in the story at all, I'll just RIP-IT OUT! I know this is extreme, but it's worth it. The problem with Anime DVDs is that you can't magically censor that type of stuff. So if it has that stuff, then I gotta get rid of it. :eh:
Fanserive is so stupid and pointless. I know it gets some perverted comic geeks fired up, but I HATE IT! :mutter: :mutter: :mutter:
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Postby Debitt » Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:34 pm

u_u; I usually dog ear the offending page with nudity and make a point to skip it next time. It's the best I can do - I'd feel terrible ripping or marking up my manga.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:31 pm

This may have been posted here before, but one of Murphy's laws of anime (which also applies to manga) is that if a series has any nudity or fanservice whatsoever the person most likely to be offended will walk in at the very moment it appears. I've found this to be surprisingly true...
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Postby Mangafanatic » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:46 pm

MorwenLaicoriel wrote: My greatest fear is that I'll rent out something or get something from my library, and my parents will walk in the room and RIGHT THEN nudity will happen.


This is a bacic rule of manga reading/anime viewing. The person mostly likely to be offended by a portion of manga/anime will be the one person who will walk in that the most suggestive moments. Never fails.

*looks up at UC's post* Oh, dang! He beat me to it! Oh well, it deserves repeating.

Luckily, atleast with manga, you can avoid that simply by flipping through it before yor buy it. Or---- you could go to the manga forum and ask the wonderful people if there's any nudity in the manga you're thinking about reading! Yay for the Manga forum!!!!

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I'm curious, what's the difference between ripping a page out of your manga and never reading it again, or skipping over it everytime and never reading it again?
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:08 pm

I have to even be careful what I flip through in stores. Many of my friends are not Christian in any way, so they naturally assume what I consider the worst. I would hate to have one of them glance over my shoulder and comment, "Oh, looking at anime porn?"

Mangafanatic wrote:I'm curious, what's the difference between ripping a page out of your manga and never reading it again, or skipping over it everytime and never reading it again?


With the former, anyone else who reads the manga cannot read it, and anyone flipping through the manga will not come across it.
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:17 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:I have to even be careful what I flip through in stores. Many of my friends are not Christian in any way, so they naturally assume what I consider the worst. I would hate to have one of them glance over my shoulder and comment, "Oh, looking at anime porn?"



With the former, anyone else who reads the manga cannot read it, and anyone flipping through the manga will not come across it.

O crap, not the all anime being porn issue again..... :shady:
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:17 pm

Well, ripping out a page, you loose the other side of it... I'd just mark it over... then again, I wouldn't be one to by "Mature" manga, if you can call it that.
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Postby Debitt » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:29 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:I'm curious, what's the difference between ripping a page out of your manga and never reading it again, or skipping over it everytime and never reading it again?

I dislike ripping pages out of ANY books, because I think the author, no matter how much I object with them, deserves a smidge of my respect. And with that respect I should honor their books and their work and keep them intact. Just a personal idiosyncracy.
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:31 pm

Kokoro Daisuke wrote:I dislike ripping pages out of ANY books, because I think the author, no matter how much I object with them, deserves a smidge of my respect. And with that respect I should honor their books and their work and keep them intact. Just a personal idiosyncracy.

Well, there IS loopholes, ya know? ;)
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Postby Debitt » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:48 pm

[quote="ZIPO_MASTER*"]Well, there IS loopholes, ya know? ]
:) Yes, any book that somehow manages to make me feel like it doesn't deserve my respect will be quickly returned to the bookstore.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:59 pm

I'm respecting them by buying their works and not downloading them off the internet, IMHO. Simply drawing a nighty on their scantily clad ladies is still honoring the work. Just my two cents.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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