Swords vrs guns, post yor opinon

[Rashiir]

What about an Airzooka?
http://www.airzooka.com/

[Mithrandir]

all in all the "gun" would be the best choice in almost an situation. take the 7.62x38 m-43 round for the ak-47.

Well, unless the situation is:

Someone broke into your house and you don't know if your child is behind them. Or behind the wall behind them. A handgun is all well and good if your opponant is in front of you, and there is nothing behind them, but if you fire at someone with almost any caliber, well... Even a .22 from a pistol will go through drywall like a hot knife through butter. And higher calibers... Well even if you hit your target, most of them will keep going. That just not acceptable risk if you have another person behind them. On the other hand, if you are skilled in knife fighting, well...

The best weapon for every situation is totally different for each situation. Personally, I'll take an appartment on mars. That way no one's gonna get me.

[Zal-Utaon III]

thats what they all say.
Remember Total Recall

[Shinja]

Well, unless the situation is:

Someone broke into your house and you don't know if your child is behind them. Or behind the wall behind them. A handgun is all well and good if your opponant is in front of you, and there is nothing behind them, but if you fire at someone with almost any caliber, well... Even a .22 from a pistol will go through drywall like a hot knife through butter. And higher calibers... Well even if you hit your target, most of them will keep going. That just not acceptable risk if you have another person behind them. On the other hand, if you are skilled in knife fighting, well...

The best weapon for every situation is totally different for each situation. Personally, I'll take an appartment on mars. That way no one's gonna get me.

well today they have the Frangible round that goes in and decentagrates which means its ideal for shooting in crowed places and even in aircraft because the round is only made to penitrate un armored targets, another advantage of this new rpund is it contains no lead, but is rather a highly compacted mixture of metal grains, mostly of tin, so there is no fear of lead poising from breathing in the dust from such a round
while this round lacks the power of a convertional round i think it is ideal for those who arm them selvs for protection in an urban area where alot of people might become involved in said incident, though i dont think one should give up the use of a convetional round all togeather due to the fact when most people are atacked it is useully not during daylight and it is useully in a very remote location.

[LorentzForce]

i was not joking. see the attatched image.

i call this gun Honey Bee - Mark 1. because it's yellow and has holes in it. and if you say it like HB-M1, it sounds cool.

[edit] oh yeah, and it uses air pressure to shoot thin and narrow things like nails. it's not powerful at all, but it's good enough to shoot at bird without dealing fatal damage. well, as long as i don't hit their eyeballs or something...

[sskg0tt0]

well i didnt mean the ak was the best gun for any situation =) just that a "gun" is a good choice.then i mention the ak as an example of what a "gun" can do.i phrase thngs badly,sorry

for home defence i use a .45,good stopping power and little to no over penetration.the federal hydrashok's i use are the same as law-enforcement rounds,making them a good choice,they break up when they hit things and they lose energy very fast once striking a target.part of the great thing about a .45,posotive energy transfer,little waste ,everything taken up by the target.

the 22 is small yes,but the velocity is high making overpenetration a high risk.as for riskin general with "guns",well there is risk in everything.train a bit,know what your doing,and be awear of the situation.


On the other hand, if you are skilled in knife fighting, well...

well thats when the other guy shoots ya

probly more then anyone wanted to know there....sorry

[LillyAngel]

Well... I'm a Lord Of the Rings fan, so I'm just gonna say... er... either a Hand-and-a-half sword, or a re-curved bow with Fire Arrows.

^.^ Liana

[Mithrandir]

well today they have the Frangible round that goes in and decentagrates which means its ideal for shooting in crowed places.

Yeah, but if you get attacked at night, your chances of hitting your target aren't that good. Does this round penetrate drywall? Or will it fracture on impact there too. That would be kinda cool. Is it available for public purchase, or only for law enforcement?

[Shinja]

Yeah, but if you get attacked at night, your chances of hitting your target aren't that good. Does this round penetrate drywall? Or will it fracture on impact there too. That would be kinda cool. Is it available for public purchase, or only for law enforcement?

they are made for differant penitrations for differant situations, some wont even puncture aluminum aircraft skin which is very easy to pucnture. id say most would go through one sheet of dry wall but wouldnt go through the other side. they are also do not ricochet. frangibles are now avilible for everyone and you can get them in all the popular pistol cartriges and some rifle cartriges like the m16/ ar15 veriants.

weve talked alot about carrying hand guns for protection but if you do deside to carry one then you should take the time and be responcible engough to train and become familliar with your firearm and have keen handle on firearm safety. in the end its not what round you shoot or the gun you own it is the profecincy of the marksman in the areas of gun handleing and opperation.

[Mithrandir]

Not to mention that it's illegal some places...

Though I don't know about the great nation of Tx.

[Link Antilles]

Even a .22 from a pistol will go through drywall like a hot knife through butter.

Yep, I've witnessed that before. I learned one thing, ALWAYS CLEAN YOUR GUN!


For home security, I rely on my trusty shotgun and a few other things.

[Mithrandir]

ALWAYS CLEAN YOUR GUN!

I thought it was, "Always check the weapon before cleaning it." Accidental discharge is a very dangerous thing! Get your BFAST and follow your manufacturer's warning labels!

[Link Antilles]

I thought it was, "Always check the weapon before cleaning it." Accidental discharge is a very dangerous thing! Get your BFAST and follow your manufacturer's warning labels!

We all knew the gun was loaded, that's we had it pointing up! We hadn't used the gun in years, and there was a lot gunk build up, causing the gun to jam. My dad tried to eject the bullet, but it locked up. Eventually, the gun discharged. No one was hurt, my mom was a little bit mad, ok really mad!

[Shinja]

all firearms can be loaded without the magazine. thats why you should always practice safe methods of gun handleing,

[Technomancer]

I thought that it was a general rule not to store loaded guns.

[Link Antilles]

I thought that it was a general rule not to store loaded guns.

I live in the redneck south, we usually keep our guns loaded.

[Mithrandir]

Well, there are plenty of reasons to store guns either loaded or unloaded. The best advice I ever received was from a friend who told me, if you have to keep a gun around you loaded at all times, get a revolver. It saves the spring and doesn't jam as easily.

As for rednecks keeping their guns loaded, well, so do the police...

[Shinja]

the biggest thing i would have to say about keeping a gun laoded is its wise to regularly unload the gun and clean it to keep the oil and grese from drying out or gumming up, those can both cause bad jams

[shooraijin]

> The best advice I ever received was from a friend who told me, if you have to keep a gun around you loaded at all times, get a revolver. It saves the spring and doesn't jam as easily.

I ran this one by Dad (USAF small arms cert, DVM by day), who stated he'd prefer a semi-automatic pistol with a half-cocked safety in that case. There is little additional strain on the spring with a half-cocked system, he states, and obviously more shots available. (If it were a full-cocked, he agrees.) W/r/t jamming, he notes that a pistol would be more likely to jam than a revolver under *any* circumstance, not just keeping it loaded.

I should note Dad always keeps his weaponry *un*loaded at all times, but as he has stated many times, he can have it loaded before an intruder can get through the door. Also, all of us in the house as kids had a healthy respect for what guns do beaten firmly into us.

(n.b. And that is a really, really annoying autocensor. Guess what it does if -ed is taken off the word 'cocked'?)

[Mithrandir]

> The best advice I ever received was from a friend who told me, if you have to keep a gun around you loaded at all times, get a revolver. It saves the spring and doesn't jam as easily.

Said quote was in reference to the magazene spring, not the head spring. But the point is well taken.

[*Hope*]

Swrds all the way!!!!!!!!!!! I want a samouri sword, a broadsword, a short sword and....ooops!!! There i go rambling about pointy objects again!

[Matthew]

Lol, I'm still staying with swords.

[sskg0tt0]

well i keep 3 of my mags loaded,and the other 4 unloaded.i rotate them out every 2 weeks or so.
on a glock there is no half ****,and no safty,so i uslualy just dont chamber a round when its just setting in the house.
as for auto vs revolver.the new auto's such as glocks ,sig's,and h&k are not likely to fail if maintianed even a little bit.if your not going to ever take care of them though a revolver is a good choice as its less than low care..its almost no care.

now as for swords.....well take a look =)

[DragonSlayer]

Has anyone here actually done coreography with swords or wooden swords? I aheb its pretty fun.

[Technomancer]

No, but when I was a kid my day camp leaders did. It was part of thing they were doing for the final campfire night (the whole theme was Vikings so..). Anyways, one of the days they were practicing in one of their backyards (with real swords), the next door neighbour called the cops. She really thought they were trying to kill each other.

Fortunately the performance went off anyways. It was really spectacular, and more than a little psycho. Both of them were martial artists and had a real flair for drama.

[Saint]

Lets settle this now... its the GunBlade from FF8.

Or be like Ash and have a chain-saw for one hand and a shotgun in the other.

*I'll take a trusty blaster over a lightsaber any day, kid.*

[kaibrightwing]

I would say sword its more honorable and takes skill to use a sword.
My friend and I are blademens in my town. It takes time to master the sword and style you are using so I say sword, anyway there is no honor or skill to use a gun.

[LorentzForce]

try learning to snipe from a distance over a kilometre. it's not as simple as 'putting the cross in the center'. you have to calculate the distance, the approximate distance of from the centre and direction the bullet will hit, wind speed, other environmental factors like snowing and raining, speed of target moving to which direction, etc etc. it requires tremendous amount of skill. i can safely say it is as difficult to swinging a sword properly.

[Ashley]

Or be like Ash and have a chain-saw for one hand and a shotgun in the other.

Oh ha ha, very funny.

[Saint]

Obviously, Ashley has never seen the Evil Dead trilogy.

I guess not, but thats ok, Ash.