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Postby RoyalWing » Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:56 pm

I'm not sure if this belongs here, but I saw other people posting for help here so I thought I could too. I thought about the Prayer Request but this isn't really for that, this is seeking advice and their are so many Requests there already and their problems are very more important than mine!

I wanted a bit to sign out, since this is personal and I know I'm still not considered as a friend to anyone here yet, so I was a bit afraid to open my "real life" as much as this here. But I thought maybe I could get a bit more help if you knew who I was.

I am having trouble loving in my family, my brother and my father.

My brother is... I mentioned it before but I don't feel like mentioning it again, really, but. I will say: he likes to look at pornographic. A lot. Cartoon pornography. Each day it's like he's becoming a stranger. he watches bad shows on television, and when he watches "good" shows he goes on the internet to find porn about them. My parents of course, know nothing about.
Now, I feel like a big hypocrite telling you this, because "before" Christ I did resemble this alot, although young I basically ruined my last years as a 'child'. But I think that's why he's becoming like a stranger. Because before we discussed the bad shows and bad movie, but now I hate them and he still likes them. I close my room, and then he just barges in "Hey, did you-- Why are you reading the Bible?" "Because it's important to me!" I screamed because I was frightened... He awkwardly gives me this grimace and shuts the door walks away.

Then, my father... I don't like him. I try my best to be nice to him and friendly and love him but he just. Thinks I want something from him, or I just want to make fun of him. I guess he has reason to think this because I did this before as well, but since the 'it' I haven't done. But now we just have arguments, or just silence between us. Except when I do something wrong or I'm in the way, he swears or something... and it makes me so mad, so I start to argue. Mostly we argue about my future, which I don't want to think about because I like to think of right now. But he always says "Hey, stop your stupid drawings and go do something useful" or "So-and-so is a good career. They make alot of money. Not like artist, who starve on the side of the street." And he is very racist (but he doesn't think so) and this starts alot of arguments too. You know what? Now I realize, if he knew what I was doing on this board I wouldn't be able to come here, because most people here are "freak" and "delusional" and "blasphemy" in his own words.... If he knew I didn't consider myself in any denomination and just thought myself as "Christian" he would argue. If he knew of any spiritual experience I had he would blow up.

I know this might sound like a rant of some kind, but I really wish for help, any kind of help!

If you think this is innapropriate or such you can lock it... who know, maybe I'm just tired or something. Maybe I just need rest or maybe I ate something that made me depressed. :shady:
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Postby Sam*ron » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:07 pm

This is not a rant, it's good you came out to ask for help, we are glad to help a friend out.

All I can say is that this is a tuff situation, and I will be praying for you, a lot.

I don't have any good edvise that I think wouldn't confuse you, so just pray and try talking to god and asking for help. He will help you.

So if you ever need to talk, just talk. Me and eveyone else here will be glad to talk if you need to get off some steam or something else. So, your friend Sam*ron is here when you need me!

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Postby Ducky » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:08 pm

I don't think you're just being depressed. Living with non-christians is really tough. They don't understand christianity and without the Holy Spirit they cannot understand it. Thus they will not understand you. The best you can really do about it is to try to love them and live as an example of Christ to them. And pray. Pray for their salvation and pray for the ability to love them and get along with them even when it's really hard. And I'll be praying for you.
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Postby Yeito » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:20 pm

I'm so sorry. I'll be your new good buddy!

But that's besides the point...

I'm not sure what to say. If you ever need to just vent or talk to someone, feel free to come to me. I don't mind. I would try to help if you wanted.. or just listen. I know a little where you're coming from. v_V; I wish I could help you more. I need to go now unfortunately. Bye!

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Postby ssj2gohan61 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:38 pm

it must be tough. does your family goto church or just you or what? if its just you i would suggest getting involved with youth group.. or bible studies i know too me they are like a 2nd family.. i have been a lot more happier lately as well since i just started going to youth group and well ive been going to bible study for a little while but not very long but they people i meet there are just so awesome i love to spend time with them.. fellowship we go camping sometimes we go play pool, go watch movies, bowling... just about everything you can think of we do it is so much fun!! well if you ever want someone else to talk to im here for you too and even though i have never talked to you i would like to meet you its nice to make new friends.
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Postby shooraijin » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:54 pm

I don't think it's inappropriate, RoyalWing. I'm still trying to figure out your father's (and your family's) issues, though. Are they very opposed to the change in your life? What does your mom say in all of this?
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Postby Ashley » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:59 pm

My dear little sis, how my heart hurts for you! I wish I could tell you I have first hand experience living with non Christians, but I don't: I grew up in a Christian family from the start. My parents were Christians before I was even born. But I can tell you that situations like this teach me to be thankful for such a blessing--but anyway, on to you.

For your brother--if he isn't a Christian he won't understand why what he's doing is wrong. Or even recognize that he's becoming "strange". I'd encourage you to first and foremost pray--pray for his salvation first, and that God would then convict him of this addiction. Ask God to soften his heart. I know it may be a long time, but don't give up: keep praying and keep staying firm in your faith. Who knows? Your diligence and faithfulness to God may be the driving force that brings your brother to Christ. So stay firm, no matter how hard it is or how hopeless it seems, stand firm! Ephesians 6 encourages us to do this. My brother also struggled with porn, but it was a totally different situation there because he was already a Christian and therefore had God convicting him. I understand, at least partially, your position here.

For your dad: now this one I do understand a lot better. The best advice I can offer is that you keep loving your father and keep showing him love even when he thinks you're only in it to get something. If he's not a Christian, as someone else said he just won't understand. He won't understand so easily the gifts and talents God gave you, or the idea that you should be happy and serve the Lord over making money, or that you love him just to love him. I think those are more difficult concepts to grasp when you are not a believer. Again I'd just start off praying for him to come to know the Lord. When you have God working behind the scenes on someone's heart, it's a lot easier to then pray for things like his understanding or his encouragement in your life, etc.

So to sum up: pray hard, stand firm. As always if you want to talk you know I'm here.
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Postby Jasdero » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:55 pm

oh my gosh!!! i'm so sorry!!! yeah, i'm with yeito on this one. if you ever need to talk, just let me know, and i'll listen no matter what. even if i have to tell my mom that i need to stay up late!!!! ^_^
RoyalWing wrote:I wanted a bit to sign out, since this is personal and I know I'm still not considered as a friend to anyone here yet, so I was a bit afraid to open my "real life" as much as this here.

If it means anything, I'll be your friend. ^_^ Even though I can't offer any advice at this moment [my mother wants me to go eat dinner V_V], I wish you the best of luck, and I'll make sure to pray for you. Take care of yourself, and remember that we all love you. :hug:
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Postby Iona » Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:36 am

Yeah, it's hard when you fight in your family, especially when it's with a parent. My Mom thought me manipulative for a long time after I finally realized what it meant to be Christian and turned to God when I was twelve. It was because I had been manipulative in the past and she wasn't reacting to the present situation but to years of my previous behavior. We fought tooth and nail and I lost all love for her. I've been working and now I can love her but it was so hard...

Your brother, you didn't mention his age? Anyway, it's an addiction and you can only pray about it. Maybe you could try doing some sibling stuff together though.

Don't give up though! Keep loving your family and keep being nice to your Dad. Sooner or later they will have to question why. I will pray for you and you have a Christian family here that loves you back.
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Postby Lehn » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:05 am

Heh. I know exactly what you’re going through with your brother.

I got on my brother's computer a few weeks ago to check my e-mail. Never, ever ever am I going to make that mistake again. Literally sprayed the entire thing down with Lysol disinfectants and went to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon.

I think almost every guy goes through that stage, when their hormones get all out of whack and it messes with their brain cells so they put morals up on the shelf.

I guess, like Ashley said, all you can really do is pray. It's what I've been doing for a while now, it sucks not being able to knock some sense into them both with a 2x4, but praying is your best bet.
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Postby RoyalWing » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:24 am

The "spiritual" situation of my family is hard to explain. We go to Catholic Church and Catholic School. So I guess our family is Christian... but it's not a big part of our life that much, I guess. We go to church on Sundays and stuff and we celebrate all the holidays but... the feeling of God in our life has not really been there. It's like they just do it to have something to stand for. My brother though had this whole argument with my mother awhile ago because he wants to stop going to church.
What I meant about my father is that if he found out I was talking to people that are, say, Protestant or Evangelical or something like that he would blow up. or simply people who don't mind anything about denomination. I think I've explain this before but, my mother side of the family is evangelical or something, but not only that they are obssessed with God. They like to talk about Him.. That's why I like talking to my mother, because she does love God and doesn't mind talking about Him. But these "talks" are very private so we don't have the time to do them, there are barely times for us to be alon, she is so busy. But, the two sides of the family are often very uncomfortable with one another because of the "opposing" denomination.

My family doesn't know anything about the "change"... If I was going to announce it something like that they would either blow up or think I was being silly, something like that.

Please don't say sorry, it's my fault simply because I haven't been opening up to much people here... but thank you all volunteering, thank you for all your help!
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Postby kaji » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:08 am

Hi Royal Wing,

I commend you for your maturity toward this topic. Living in a divided house can be very hard. Especialy when the division has to do with God. Your parents are suposed to be ONE person, and one mind as the heads of your home. How absolutely frustrating it must be to gain encouragement from your mother and desention from your father. (This is assuming your parents are not divorced as mine are.)

It can also be very hard to 'change.' Not so much the changing part its self, but rather what happens around you because of your own changes. (Simmilar to the way you explained that your brother seams to be farther and farther away from you.)

The best advice I can give you it to just love them. The first commandment tells us to love the Lord our God with all your heart, mind, body, soul ect. Then from this love, and Gods love for you, love your neighbor, your family.
If they want to argue with you or become angry, dont fight back, offer them the other cheek and make sure they know you care.

This can be SUPER hard, and I do not know you very well. But do your best, and I will pray for your stength, that Gods love will reach through you to your family and they will come to truely know God by that.

-kaji

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Postby Swordguy » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:56 am

i have to agree with ssj2gohan61 on the fact of finding fellowship in this matter. Without the support of fellow Christians you will die out like the weeds in the parable of the sower. As with dinomiations i would have to say this. Man made the differnt dinomitions not God. true Christians do not worry about the fine points of the law witch most dinomations do.

verse refence Gal. 5:2-6

2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

As with your family i agree with most everyone here on the fact that you must be the Bible to them so them what it realy means to a Christian. and remeber this

1 John 4:19
We love because he first loved us.

It is his love that allows us to love others. The closer we get to him the more we feel his love and the more his love is shown thru us.

as with everything i sugest prayer and prayer and a little prayer.
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Postby JediSonic » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:24 am

I'll pray for you and your family!
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