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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:56 pm

Okay, I'm curious about Japanese honorifics (I'm not absolutely sure that's the proper phrase for the idea I'm thinking of. I'm thinking about the suffixes they fix to names.) Are there any good sites that explain honorifics? I'm really curious about this. Thanks for your help.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby water-bearer » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:28 pm

I searched around for it on google, and this is the site i found:

http://www.learn-japanese.info/grammar.html#address

I did notice that they didn't cover -dono which is a very respectful term, though someone else might be more qualified to elaborate on it. There's probably others that were missed too.
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Postby Locke » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:31 pm

like Locke-chan?

if you can find a volume of Rurouni Kenshin they have a glossary of Japanese words ands im sure they have all sorts of defitions on honorifics.
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Postby JediSonic » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:39 pm

I found that lil golossary interesting ^^
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Postby Ingemar » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:21 pm

I find Japanese honorifics very offensive.

No really, I do. Don't call me Ingemar-anything unless you wanna get hurt!!! ;)
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Postby Mangafanatic » Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:17 am

[quote="Ingemar"]I find Japanese honorifics very offensive.

No really, I do. Don't call me Ingemar-anything unless you wanna get hurt!!! ]
Pray tell, why? I think they're sorta cute, and I really love the depth of Japanese culture which they reflect.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Xavier249 » Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:52 am

[quote="Ingemar"]I find Japanese honorifics very offensive.

No really, I do. Don't call me Ingemar-anything unless you wanna get hurt!!! ]

Hai, Naze? (Yes, why?)

I use them pretty often, my anime group and I all go by either something-chan or something-kun, we have all the girls go by -chan and the guys -kun. I even call certain adults -San, although the first time it slipped out I had to spend 10 minutes explaining it to them.. . .

out of respect for you liking Sanosuke also. I will not call you by honorifics, Ingemar.
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Postby shooraijin » Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:25 am

You don't see -dono used all that often, though. I hear -san a lot more frequently, at least in polite speech between relative outsiders.

On the scale of politeness, -sama is most polite > -dono > -san (normal level of politeness) > -chan/-kun (family, friends; you wouldn't use this in polite company, but it's totally appropriate with buddies) > nothing (implies very close intimacy; a nice analysis of Ranma points out that Ranma and Akane never use honorifics with each other, even though they "allegedly hate each other," since they're engaged, after all).

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Postby Ingemar » Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:30 am

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Postby Aka-chan » Tue Jun 08, 2004 7:36 pm

There's a small honorifics glossary in the beginning of all Del Rey manga as well.

I heard that -dono is generally more archaic and used to mean "lord" or (rarely) "lady." It just doesn't really get used today (except among the Kenshin fans) and doesn't even show up in some dictionaries.

Aa, atashi mo chotto wakaranai, Ingemar. Nande suki janaindaka?
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Postby Heart of Sword » Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:18 am

I often use -dono, but then there are:

-san
-chan
-kun
And a few others....
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Postby shooraijin » Wed Jun 09, 2004 10:45 am

> Nande suki janaindaka?

Ingemar (kun? san? heh-heh-heh?) wa nihongo ga hanasenai daroo ^_^
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Postby Mangafanatic » Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:55 pm

:drool: Um--- English, please.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Xavier249 » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:00 pm

Mangafanatic wrote::drool: Um--- English, please.

umm, I cannot decipher them either.
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