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Postby IZ&Trigun4life » Mon May 24, 2004 5:31 pm

Call me crazy but i've been having this strange fetish for aliens...I dunno why..(maybe cause of my like for Invader Zim) but my mom's getting worried lol. Do you think its harmless or could it be daveling into ehh...ungodly things.....id love to hear your opinions!
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon May 24, 2004 5:36 pm

Hmm. . . well, thre's nothing ungodly about wondering. God made people curious, but obsessing about it probably wouldn't be healthy.

As far as my opinion about E.T.'s-- hmm, I don't think they exist. They might, but I don't think they do.
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Postby Madeline » Mon May 24, 2004 5:38 pm

I'll be praying for you. It's kind of sad that your mom is freaking out...
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Postby Destroyer2000 » Mon May 24, 2004 5:40 pm

Some verse in the Bible says, quote, "I have sheep in other pastures that you know nothing about,". So....that COULD mean aliens.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Mon May 24, 2004 5:41 pm

Where's that scripture, D2K?
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Postby Ashley » Mon May 24, 2004 5:42 pm

Hey guys, keep it friendly and keep it open, and this thread won't need to be locked. Just a friendly reminder from your neighborhood shepherdess, kay?
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Postby Pigeon4x » Mon May 24, 2004 5:48 pm

No, simple as that.
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Postby ZiP » Mon May 24, 2004 5:54 pm

Pig wrote:No, simple as that.
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Postby Madeline » Mon May 24, 2004 6:00 pm

You know, God has made other beings...He made angels, right?
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Postby Bobtheduck » Mon May 24, 2004 6:23 pm

Well, to be frank, that verse was referring to gentiles... I could go either way with that, but it's best not to worry too much about it.

Also, the current worldwide obsession with Aliens is merely to prove anything and everything other than "God did it" when it comes to origins, and is definately dangerous ground.
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Postby Mave » Mon May 24, 2004 6:34 pm

ShiroiHikari wrote:Where's that scripture, D2K?


I suppose it's this.

John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

I guess I don't really believe in aliens nor do I really care about them. ^^;;; If God did create them, it's all good and I'm cool with it.
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Postby Destroyer2000 » Mon May 24, 2004 6:41 pm

The scripture? I don't remember...I just remember the verse.
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Postby SwordSkill » Mon May 24, 2004 7:03 pm

I'd love it if God had created other intelligent beings aside from us. But that's coming from me who has been dreaming about stars and planets since she was a kid, so that's pure wishful thinking. XD

It's anyone's guess, really, but then anything is possible. We haven't had evidence that would sufficiently prove or deny it, so it's still an open field.
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Postby Technomancer » Mon May 24, 2004 8:07 pm

Given what we know about physics, chemistry, and astronomy, it's my own opinion that life is almost certain to have evolved elsewhere in the universe as well.
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Postby true_noir_chloe » Mon May 24, 2004 9:38 pm

>>John 10:16
"I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd."<<

This verse was used by Christ regarding the scripture in Isaiah 56:8 "The Lord God (YHWH), who gathers the dispersed of Israel, declares, Yet others I will gather to them (also seen as HIM, meaning Christ gathering those to HIM), to those already gathered."

This is definitely seen as a scripture based on how Christ did not come to save only Israel, but the Gentiles as well - all who would believe.

I am positive this verse and others similar had nothing to do with aliens. Of course, we are considered aliens in scripture. ^_^ *hehe* Eph. 2:13-22 is another good section of scripture if you'd like to read regarding us strangers, aliens being brought together by Christ.

Now, I think Mangafanatic gave a great answer that we are naturally curious beings and I think it's all right if you want to think about such things. I don't believe there are aliens, however, and if there are, well what does scripture say I should do about it? Nothing.

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Postby Lochaber Axe » Mon May 24, 2004 9:50 pm

I find it amusing that the US government actually has a plan for alien contact. Though seizing the ship and treating the newcomers as animals seems... counterproductive. I don't think we need to become part of an intergalactic war now, do we?

Christians are to look toward Heavan, and not to the stars. To focus on the existance of aliens to me is still worldly. If there is anything up there, than either we will be able to go up there to find out, or He is coming back before we can. We will one day have the possibility for such space travel, but it might not be in God's will that we do.
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Postby Ingemar » Mon May 24, 2004 10:13 pm

I've been dreaming up an extra Earth God made that had people free of sin. It's mostly a fictitious pipe-dream, only good for fantasy.

I once had a blasphemous thought that God Himself may be an alien.
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Postby Stephen » Mon May 24, 2004 10:36 pm

If aliens existed God would have put that in the Bible clearly. Not through scripture that could be twisted a certain way. My own personal feelings on the matter, are that somtimes Angels and demons are seen and in a desperate way to exlain it we create little green men. The only aliens I know of are the ones sneaking across borders....
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Postby Link Antilles » Mon May 24, 2004 10:44 pm

I've always been interested by this topic.... mostly, because I'm a Sci-fi fan. Our galaxy is a huge place and the universe is filled with countless ones. I believe it could be possible....but, what's the point? If we are the only beings God breathed his breathe into us and therefore have souls... that would mean all other physical creatures are soulless. They would have no purpose in live. It they are out there... I doubt we will ever met... the universe is mind numbly big.... So in short, I highly doubt we'll ever know til' we get to heaven.
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Postby Heart of Sword » Tue May 25, 2004 4:24 am

I don't know if they exist or not.

But crop circles are freaky. 0_0x

Anyway, who knows? Maybe there's aliens out there that have a language of only one word: "Oro"? We'd get along just fine. ;^^x
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Postby skynes » Tue May 25, 2004 4:39 am

I personally don't think they do exist. God created a universe so enormous to show his power and glory. The heavens fit into his hand after all.

Reason I don't think they do exist is that it wouldn't be fair. The WHOLE of Creation was affected by sin. "For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but by Him who subjected it in hope" Romans 8.

It isn't fair for beings on another planet to be affected by our sins. But since Sin destroyed the entire creation, that's what would have happened.

If God DID create aliens, they'd be the same as us. We were the pinnacle of God' creation. Not to be arrogant or anything but we were created in the Image of God. Thats a pretty big thing.
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Postby kaji » Tue May 25, 2004 5:51 am

Do you think God create other being besides us?


Sure, angles and some other crazy guys in Revilations.

I dont doubt that there could be tons of stuff that God created that we dont know about. But even if he did create some other planet full of life (which I dont really think he did) I wouldnt care. They dont have anything to do with us.

Gods will in abosute and good, so trust in him and you dont have to fear 'them aliens' (if they do exist), and to be come obsessed with them or their potential existance just seams like another one of satans great plans to distract us from God.

So in the words of my (fake) Italian grand father "Forget about it."
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Postby Ashley » Tue May 25, 2004 6:28 am

As for crop circles, they've proved those are hoaxed. All you do is take a piece of 2 by 4, some rope, a nice big field and your buddies and it's very easy to reproduce if you're good at geometry. So I think you can throw that claim out as proof they exist.
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Postby righteous_slave » Tue May 25, 2004 6:30 am

I don't think there are any little green men, or greys, or tentacled monstrosities because A: there is no good indication of them in the Bible (the verse mentioned earlier can too easily refer to the all the cultures outside of the Middle East) B: the idea that we are the sole life created in this enourmous universe puts the emphasis on our uniquness and our special place in God's eyes.

On the flip side, I believe it was C.S. Lewis who wrote "The Silent Planet" in which the universe is populated, but those cultures passed the test in thier Garden of Eden and we didn't, as a result, they do not make any kind of contact with us. An intersting idea and lesson, but i don't think it holds as a good possibility.
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Postby Straylight » Tue May 25, 2004 6:52 am

I found this site the other day for a group of kids in the UK who create crop circles for fun.. nevertheless, I'm a bit confused about how they made this one (attached)

For those of you who believe aliens don't exist because they don't make an appearance in the Bible, that is flawed logic. The Bible makes no mention of the other planets orbiting the Sun, so by this rule they don't exist. Yet we sent probes into space and took pictures of them.

Whatever the truth is, it doesn't really matter too much. We'll find out the answer when we get to Heaven, or if we ever make first contact.
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Postby Technomancer » Tue May 25, 2004 8:21 am

While I'm reasonably convinced of the likelihood of extraterrestrial life, I'm much more skeptical about claims regarding UFO's and the like. Most claims are more than a little dubious, and have become a quasi-religious phenomena (as a suggestion, see the documentary "In Advance of the Landing")

However, I would be disappointed if intelligent life didn't exist elsewhere in the cosmos. At the same time, I think it is worthwhile to continue to search for evidence of life, both within and outside of our solar system.
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Postby c-girl » Tue May 25, 2004 12:01 pm

I dunno... If there were aliens. I'd be scared...
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Postby EireWolf » Tue May 25, 2004 12:38 pm

I think it's totally possible that God created life on other planets. As someone else mentioned, the universe is incomprehensibly vast. I think it's a bit arrogant of us to assume that God would not create life anywhere else.... (and just plain silly to assume that God would tell us everything there is to know about the universe through the Bible. That would make for a mighty big Book.) We are His special creation, of course, created in His image. But that doesn't mean that He would never choose to create beings in His image on other faraway planets also.

However, there is no sense in obsessing about this. If it's distracting you from God, that's not a good thing. Focus on what God HAS told you. If He didn't tell us about extraterrestrials, He probably had a good reason not to tell us, ne? :)
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Postby Alian » Tue May 25, 2004 3:26 pm

It's an interesting thought to toy with. ^_~

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Postby starstoryteller » Tue May 25, 2004 3:56 pm

I think that if there was life out there they would not talk to
us because of our sin nature (maybe they would only talk to the christains thuo XD) I think that the ailens are ether angels or...Demons :evil:
Some like the grays kidnapp humans and hurt them by testing them.
But some are discerbed as normal looking people who are very tall have blond hair and are helpful to poeple (sounds like an angel to me) :angel:
the point is we can't rule out all possablitys and we sould not be mean to these people who belive in these thing and to love them and to quitly show the way to the Light
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