Wow...just wow...

Postby **Yuki-Anne** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:26 pm

Okay, first of all, if she wasn't consuming enough calories or protein and she was getting up too early to jog and not getting enough sleep, yes, she would get sick. In that sense, I can see how your health might improve upon giving up vegetarianism and jogging.

Part of that is just common sense, though. Vegetarian diets are not automatic weight loss/body builder magic. The same principles apply to vegetarians that apply to every other human: you have to consume enough nutrients of the right type. Where you get them from and how is entirely up to you. You also need enough sleep. Waking up too early to jog will actually keep you from losing weight, if that is your goal, and it will also make you more susceptible to illness.

Postby **Rusty Claymore** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:27 pm

Now, I know I'm coming in a little late, but Adam was not "lulled" into eating the fruit after Eve went and found him. He was right there. He knew it was wrong, he knew the consequences, but he did nothing. Eve started to slip, and Adam remained silent.

▬_▬ The Bible alse says, "There is no God."
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

Postby **Yuki-Anne** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:29 pm

Well, I don't know that the Bible says he was literally by her side the entire time, but he knew the rules just as well as she did. It's not like she tricked him or anything. All it says is, "She gave it to the man and he ate it."

It's ironic that some people act like women are all stupid and evil for the Eden thing, when in reality, Eve had to be coaxed and tricked. She argued, considered, and made a decision based on the information at hand (even though it was bad information). Adam just had to have it handed to him.

Postby **Nate** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:39 pm

Yuki, the reason Rusty mentions that is that the verse where Adam takes the fruit says that she gave it to Adam "who was with her." How long was he with her? The Bible doesn't say exactly, but it definitely can be interpreted as Adam having been with her the whole time.

Postby **armeck** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:11 pm

adam young is a vegetarian, vegetarians are evil. there will be no owl city in heaven... CRAP!

Postby **TopazRaven** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:30 pm

No Owl City!? Oh no!

Postby **Shao Feng-Li** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:29 am

Holy crap. This is wild. I mean, I don't doubt that Satan would use bad diets to weaken a person's body or something, but come on.

Postby **Rusty Claymore** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:08 pm

I don't doubt that Satan would use bad diets to weaken a person's body or something, but come on.

Well, he can't use veggies, apparently...

Postby **armeck** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:41 pm

i love tim hawkins

Postby **Shao Feng-Li** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:07 pm

Rusty Claymore (post: 1453108) wrote:Well, he can't use veggies, apparently...

ROFL

I freakin' love Tim Hawkins

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL!!! · Postby **steenajack** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:51 am

TIM HAWKINS!!!!!!!!!XD! I luvs him!!!

Anyway, okay....all I can say is...wow....I can't believe anyone actually believes this crap. This is so opposite to God that it's not even funny! I mean sheesh! Jesus ate with tax collectors and prostitutes for Pizza's sake! He didn't condemn them to hell, He just loved on them...and through that they actually wanted to change. He never showed hatred for them, in fact he even said that hatred was just as bad as murder, and He taught to love your enemies.....

I mean....I'm sorry, but saying that "God hates sinners" is just pure and utter BC to me. Where the heck do the get this from!?!?!? I mean....GOSH!

Postby **Lynna** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:21 am

Stop smoking, but stop eating sugar first. Sugar will destroy your health faster than smoking.

XD
I guess some of us have a problem then
These people Are weird. I sure hope they haven't lead anyone astray. I want to say I smell Trolls but...yeah, They're just way to into it.
I also don't understand how the talk about the story of the Prodigal Son, and then say "The Son wasn't lost in the first place! He was a Son to begin with!" But then say "But the elder Son is evil!" and then later slam Calvinism. I just don't get these people.
I also don't understand why they're so against adoption, I mean, I understand them being against abortion, but what on earth is wrong with Adoption?

Also, I think people like these use the KJV because It's harder for people to understand. Just like how beforehand the church only used latin. If people don't understand the Truth, then it's easier to sway them to your opinion

Postby **TopazRaven** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:18 am

I don't get these people either. They make me mad and I have to resist thoughts of smacking them over the head with my NIV bible. *Cough*. I don't know what the problem would be with adoption either. I'm going to outright say I never want to go through child birth. I'd much rather adopt children in need of a safe and loving home, which I hope I could give them.

Postby **Warrior4Christ** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:21 pm

Davidizer13 (post: 1452525) wrote:
*Walk or run everywhere you go. Do not use a car, bicycle, or modern transportation.

*Work hard at manual labor for your subsistence. Don't work an office job.

Using the Internet is fine, though!

You're taking that out of context. Read the bit before the dot points.

[Bread is evil blah blah, but it was okay for them to eat in Jesus' time because it was a different type of bread blah blah and their lifestyle was different...]

In summary, some bread would be OK to eat today given the follow requirements.
* Walk or run everywhere you go. Do not use a car, bicycle, or modern transportation.
(etc)

They're not specific commands - they're just giving examples of what hypothetical lifestyle changes you'd need to make bread-eating okay.

Pascal (post: 1452533) wrote:I wonder what this website would think of Daniel 1:12-16, when it spoke of Daniel in Babylon when he chose to only eat Vegetables instead of eating the food of the King?

, That evil villain Daniel!

They already addressed that:

This story actually proves the vegetarian diet is bad. The men ate the special vegetarian diet to prove God was working miracles in them. The men and the king all knew the vegetarian diet should have made the men sickly. That is the reason the men ate only vegetables and water. They proved God was performing miracles in them by maintaining their health and improving it.

Postby **TopazRaven** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:38 pm

So...you actually agree with them then? I suppose I'm out of luck any other way. I rather do like bread, fruits and veggies.

Postby **Warrior4Christ** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:49 pm

TopazRaven (post: 1453726) wrote:So...you actually agree with them then? I suppose I'm out of luck any other way. I rather do like bread, fruits and veggies.

I didn't express any opinion! I'm just showing what the website said.
I also do like my breads/fruits/veggies. I think they're quite mislead.

Postby **TopazRaven** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:00 pm

Sorry, I was being weird, as usual!

Postby **Rusty Claymore** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:50 pm

Ouch, if fruits and veggies were evil, where would that leave VeggieTales?

Postby **Sapphire225** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:45 am

Wow...just wow. Was this site hosted through Fred Phelps and Jack Chick? I don't wanna know. I'm sorry, but this site is quite...inaccurate.

Postby **TheMewster** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:42 am

I agree with TopazRaven on adoption. But seriously, I'm gonna leave this topic. I'm very weak when it comes to 'biblical' examples

and I'm wondering if my lifestyle is okay thanks to these extremists. It's probably best to ignore them, as I can feel my faith deteriorating because of just the QUOTES from these guys, and I need to get off this topic. [color="Red"]FAST[/color]. But on a kinder note, God bless these guys and I hope they can find the real biblical truth and learn to love more fully. :sniffle:

Wow...just wow...

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