" wrote:RustyClaymore 11:27 - Ah yes, Socks is the single raindrop responsible for the flood. XD
KhakiBlueSocks (post: 1297427) wrote:[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]Am I the only one who's planning on getting married at the Justice of the Peace if this economy keeps up?[/color][/SIZE][/font]
KhakiBlueSocks (post: 1297427) wrote:[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]Am I the only one who's planning on getting married at the Justice of the Peace if this economy keeps up?[/color][/SIZE][/font]
ShiroiHikari wrote:I think Japanese people see Christianity in the same way we see Eastern religions: somewhat mysterious and "cool".
rocklobster (post: 1297409) wrote:hey the grace works whether they believe or not. Boy will they be surprised to be in Heaven!
rocklobster (post: 1297409) wrote:hey the grace works whether they believe or not. Boy will they be surprised to be in Heaven!
Nate (post: 1297412) wrote:
Roy Mustang (post: 1297460) wrote:Agreed. I'm not really for this, if they just doing the Christian wedding as nothing more then an image.
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Azier the Swordsman (post: 1297913) wrote:So because they have a Christian wedding you think they will get to go to heaven? That's like saying if I get married at a Buddhist ceremony I'm going to hell.
Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the father except through me."
Believing in Christ and his sacrifice is the only way to get to heaven. Attending a Christian ceremony does not get you to heaven.
Just because you go to a church does not mean you will get to heaven.
Remember the parable Jesus told about the great wedding feast where a man was found without wedding clothes and he was cast out?
You can attend a Christian church service and not be saved. For it is not the act of attending church that saves you.
Jesus says, "On that day many will say, 'Lord, Lord, did we not do great works and cast out demons in your name?' And God will say, 'I never knew you. Be departed from me.'"
Paul said that it is not our works that save us but our faith in Jesus Christ.
So, no. These people will not be pleasantly surprised to find themselves in heaven one day unless they believe in Jesus Christ and accept him as their savior.
Roy Mustang (post: 1297460) wrote:Agreed. I'm not really for this, if they just doing the Christian wedding as nothing more then an image.
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Azier the Swordsman (post: 1297913) wrote:So because they have a Christian wedding you think they will get to go to heaven? That's like saying if I get married at a Buddhist ceremony I'm going to hell.
Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the father except through me."
Believing in Christ and his sacrifice is the only way to get to heaven. Attending a Christian ceremony does not get you to heaven.
Just because you go to a church does not mean you will get to heaven.
Remember the parable Jesus told about the great wedding feast where a man was found without wedding clothes and he was cast out?
You can attend a Christian church service and not be saved. For it is not the act of attending church that saves you.
Jesus says, "On that day many will say, 'Lord, Lord, did we not do great works and cast out demons in your name?' And God will say, 'I never knew you. Be departed from me.'"
Paul said that it is not our works that save us but our faith in Jesus Christ.
So, no. These people will not be pleasantly surprised to find themselves in heaven one day unless they believe in Jesus Christ and accept him as their savior.
Fish and Chips (post: 1298827) wrote:Actually, the popularity of Western-style marriage is probably a negative point. They're so wrapped up in the pomp and circumstance of the occasion and the ceremony that the actual significance of this is lost on them. They consider it a spectacle, not something of substance. That is a very dangerous thing.
Momo-P (post: 1298839) wrote:Ya, but you can't just assume that's true with every Japanese couple. Plus any of them that do hire a pastor? Do you honestly think they're not going to sit the couple down and talk things over with them? You have to do that when you have a regular wedding, but technically it does give many chances for things to be mentioned and brought up. I don't see how they're going to be "caught up in the pomp and circumstance" when they're not even at the actual wedding and the pastor is seriously discussing religion with them. I mean he would have to ask if they were Christians, what type of wedding they wanted, why, etc. Just because your excited about an event doesn't mean you can't maintain yourself before hand.
Radical Dreamer (post: 1298840) wrote:That being said, though, how many Americans get caught up in the pomp and circumstance of a traditional wedding and/or aren't really Christians? I'm betting the number is higher than we might think, making it really no different for us than it is for them. I'm not saying it doesn't have the potential to plant seeds in people, but honestly, this really isn't much different than an agnostic American girl wanting a traditional church wedding for lack of a better venue.
ShiroiHikari (post: 1298120) wrote:It is but not in the way you're probably thinking XD I mean that Japanese people, especially younger ones, are probably a lot more open to the idea of Christianity now than they have been before.
Except that that's entirely the reason they're doing it. A pastor is little more than a novelty item to them. They're going through the motions because they think it's exotic, or modern, or Western. They aren't renting pastors for religious conversation, they're just seen as part of the complete package.Momo-P (post: 1298839) wrote:I don't see how they're going to be "caught up in the pomp and circumstance" when they're not even at the actual wedding and the pastor is seriously discussing religion with them.
Azier the Swordsman (post: 1297913) wrote:So because they have a Christian wedding you think they will get to go to heaven? That's like saying if I get married at a Buddhist ceremony I'm going to hell.
Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the father except through me."
Believing in Christ and his sacrifice is the only way to get to heaven. Attending a Christian ceremony does not get you to heaven.
Just because you go to a church does not mean you will get to heaven.
Remember the parable Jesus told about the great wedding feast where a man was found without wedding clothes and he was cast out?
You can attend a Christian church service and not be saved. For it is not the act of attending church that saves you.
Jesus says, "On that day many will say, 'Lord, Lord, did we not do great works and cast out demons in your name?' And God will say, 'I never knew you. Be departed from me.'"
Paul said that it is not our works that save us but our faith in Jesus Christ.
So, no. These people will not be pleasantly surprised to find themselves in heaven one day unless they believe in Jesus Christ and accept him as their savior.
I don't think you have enough exclamation points.armeckthefirst (post: 1298870) wrote:that is right!!!!!!!!! christians are becoming apathetic and forgetting that people who don't believe are eternally doomed! we have to tell people the good news!!!
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