Cartoon Network goes live

[Roy Mustang]

12 live action projects in development

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According to The Hollywood Reporter, the Cartoon Network has a dozen live action projects in development. Described by CN Chief Development Officer Rob Sorcher as “teenage boy wish-fulfillment,â€

[ShiroiHikari]

Raise your hand if you saw this coming a million miles away.

*raises hand*

[Radical Dreamer]

Ridiculous. I mean for goodness sake, it's the Cartoon Network. Heaven forbid they show actual, you know, cartoons on it. XD And targeting everything toward a teen/tween male audience is ridiculous too.

Also Disney has a channel called "XD"? My reaction to this is not even necessary to type.

[LadyRushia]

Corrie, you should ask for royalties for the use of "XD."

This is dumb. Not everyone who watches cartoons is a teenage boy.

[Amzi Live]

LOL,I can't say much but as a guy,I don't complain.
Then again,I never liked CN bringing live projects to the channel. It sort of ruined it.

[ashfire]

When they pulled One Piece, Zatch Bell and a few others that changed that network.
The action movies have come down to repeats over and over so who wants to watch it after you go out and buy the DVDs.
So I guess they are going to try to see if people will like live action shows over cartoons.
I guess live action is cheaper than making animation because it doesn't take as long to make it.
Maybe thats why they dropped anime because it takes time to do the art of a anime series where American cartoon can be done on a cheaper less artly scale and live action will be done in no time and they can market it in stores.

[LadyRushia]

Except Cartoon Network never had to worry about making the anime. All they did was air it. They put more work into their own stuff, so anime would be easier to air anyway. I think it's just that people have stopped watching anime on T.V.

[ShiroiHikari]

I think it's the fate of every cable network to turn completely away from their original direction. Look at freaking TV Land and Nick at Nite.

[rocklobster]

Cartoon Network couldn't fail more if their name was Faily McFailfail.

[Tarnish]

I'd care a lot more if Cartoon Network had shown anything halfway decent in the last five years.

Which is to say I could not possibly care less.

[Peanut]

Well...on the bright side we can now tell small children that when we were young, Cartoon Network only ran cartoons...

I'd care a lot more if Cartoon Network had shown anything halfway decent in the last five years.

Which is to say I could not possibly care less.

Megas XLR not halfway decent? Ouch, my fandom!*dies*

(Of course, even in that case, Cartoon Network still doesn't get off easy since they cancelled it...thanks CN...thanks...)

[animechica]

Whatever, Cartoon Network was done for me after they killed off after-school Toonami anime. -_-

[Lochaber Axe]

This is just like Sci-fi channel getting rid of MST3K for... bad B-movies.

Sooner or later every channel that is out now will all collapse into some crappy Super-channel.

[MasterDias]

This is just like Sci-fi channel getting rid of MST3K for... bad B-movies.

...and the History Channel deciding that shows about logging crews...and alien abductions, somehow fit into their subject matter.

[Nate]

it takes time to do the art of a anime series where American cartoon can be done on a cheaper less artly scale

So you're saying that Crayon Shin-chan is quality detailed animation, and Megas XLR is cheap crap?



YES ANIME IS TRULY QUALITY.

[ashfire]

I won't disc Crayon Shin-chan or any anime but there are some American
cartoons that I just don't won't sit and watch.
I have seen cartoons since the 50s up to today and some were all you could get to see unitl the 60s when anime started showing on the local channels.

[ShiroiHikari]

...and the History Channel deciding that shows about logging crews...and alien abductions, somehow fit into their subject matter.

Like I said, that's what all cable networks are doing now. It's like how A&E suddenly became a random crap channel instead of about the arts like it used to be.

[Nate]

there are some American
cartoons that I just don't won't sit and watch.

Well yeah, I'm the same way (I refuse to watch crap like Flapjack). My point was that contrary to what most people think, American cartoons are animated way better than anime. Yeah, there were things like Transformers and GI Joe in the 80s (the animation in those was terrible at many points), but watch Batman: The Animated Series compared to oh, say, Naruto, and it's a world of difference. You'll never see Batman standing around without his head, for example. You'll also never see a "Good Batman you look kind of cool!" moment.

Anime is animated cheaply, with the exception of movies or OAVs. Anime is almost always poorly done, whereas American cartoons are usually done well.

If you're simply talking about STYLE, that's one thing. Style is a matter of personal taste. But if you're just talking about animation quality, American cartoons beat anime down hard.

[MasterDias]

Well yeah, I'm the same way (I refuse to watch crap like Flapjack). My point was that contrary to what most people think, American cartoons are animated way better than anime. Yeah, there were things like Transformers and GI Joe in the 80s (the animation in those was terrible at many points), but watch Batman: The Animated Series compared to oh, say, Naruto, and it's a world of difference. You'll never see Batman standing around without his head, for example. You'll also never see a "Good Batman you look kind of cool!" moment.

Anime is animated cheaply, with the exception of movies or OAVs. Anime is almost always poorly done, whereas American cartoons are usually done well.

If you're simply talking about STYLE, that's one thing. Style is a matter of personal taste. But if you're just talking about animation quality, American cartoons beat anime down hard.

I don't think comparing Batman and Naruto is a really fair comparison to make such a blanket statement. I'm not certain of the facts, but Batman was likely one of the more expensively animated cartoons of its day. Naruto (and well, any of the ongoing/long-running anime) has severe budget constraints, just related to the nature of such a series. So, you have all sorts of bizarre things happen with the animation.

The animation quality of much shorter anime by studios like Sunrise, Bones, Gonzo, and Production IG is going to be far, far better than any series like Naruto.
Also, for every Shin-chan you can list... I'm going to give you this...and this...and this...and this...

[Nate]

The animation quality of much shorter anime by studios like Sunrise, Bones, Gonzo, and Production IG is going to be far, far better than any series like Naruto.

Well yeah. I agree with that. But then there's series like He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, from the 80s, which was really nothing more than a giant toy commercial that ran for as long as they would make money off it. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles too. The animation quality in those shows which could conceivably have been just as long (had they remained steadly profitable) is already better than modern day anime.

Also I think listing Shin-chan was a bad idea, as the reason it looks like that is stylistic choice, much like Home Movies. But again, the reason I compared that to Batman: TAS was to disprove the blanket statement that all anime is breathtaking art and American cartoons are cheap crap. There's a lot of anime that's cheap crap (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, most shounen series that run for ages), and there's a lot of American cartoons that have amazing art (Gargoyles, Batman: TAS, Swat Kats, so on).

Also what's wrong with Ripping Friends? That show was fantastic.

[Tommy]

This is dumb. Not everyone who watches cartoons is a teenage boy.

Funny you say that because I don't know any teenage guys that watch cartoons unless they have the words "Family" or "Guy" or perhaps "South" or "Park."

I mean most people I know that watch Naruto or other shonen anime are 12 at the oldest.

[Shao Feng-Li]

Heh, I really don't miss cable.

[uc pseudonym]

I have only one reaction to all of this:
[quote]Described by CN Chief Development Officer Rob Sorcher as “teenage boy wish-fulfillment,â€

[Tommy]

I have only one reaction to all of this:

If 7-11 year old boys are teenage guys now then I can see where he's going with that.

[MasterDias]

Also I think listing Shin-chan was a bad idea, as the reason it looks like that is stylistic choice, much like Home Movies. But again, the reason I compared that to Batman: TAS was to disprove the blanket statement that all anime is breathtaking art and American cartoons are cheap crap. There's a lot of anime that's cheap crap (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, most shounen series that run for ages), and there's a lot of American cartoons that have amazing art (Gargoyles, Batman: TAS, Swat Kats, so on).

Also what's wrong with Ripping Friends? That show was fantastic.

I'll put a disclaimer that I wasn't necessarily making a statement regarding overall quality about the series listed, as I've liked plenty of things that have had less-than amazing art...although the overly-stylized art-style that makes up a vast majority of American cartoons nowadays isn't really my cup of tea.

I just googled He-Man. It really ran for 130 episodes? Seriously?
I missed most of the major cartoons from the 80s, so...

Funny you say that because I don't know any teenage guys that watch cartoons unless they have the words "Family" or "Guy" or perhaps "South" or "Park."

I mean most people I know that watch Naruto or other shonen anime are 12 at the oldest.

On Cartoon Network, perhaps.
But I think you'll find that a majority of the people watching them online or downloading fansubs are generally older that that.

[animeantics]

*headdesk*

Seriously? It's CARTOON network, not "cartoon-and-live-action" network!
I mean, first TOON Disney plays Live action, now CN.

[rocklobster]

This will be a future blog topic.
Plug.

[Tigerchu]

Ridiculous. I mean ... it's the Cartoon Network.

Totally.

[Blitzkrieg1701]

"Welcome to Cartoon Network: where we'll show anything as long as it attracts the desired demographic of our advertisers!"

[ShiroiHikari]

This thread is kind of old. I thought they had mostly abandoned these projects already.