Cowboy Bebop live-action... with Keanu Reeves?!

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Postby Kkun » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:15 pm

[quote="Cognitive Gear (post: 1276347)"]I've heard this a lot recently, and I do understand the sentiment. After all, it seems like the remakes and adaptations rule.

But I do have to contest the idea, based on the evidences that have been set before me in my local theater:

Pixar's films, Lost in Translation, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Children of Men, No Country for Old Men, There Will be Blood, The Assassination of Jesse James, etc.

There are a whole lot of movies that are quite "original". The problem is, a whole lot of the movies that deserve attention just simply do not receive it. Like it or not, movie making is a business, and it's much easier to make another Batman move which is a guaranteed success than to spend those same resources on something fresh and new.

If we are really honest, though, movies have been like this for far longer than we've been aware of it. Even Casablanca, frequently credited as one of the best of all time, was based on an unproduced play, Everybody Comes to Rick's.

As they say, 90%]

Yeah, even the movies you listed are mostly drawn from previously written source material. There Will Be Blood is based on Upton Sinclair's Oil! and No Country for Old Men and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford are both film translations of books. Hollywood's been playing this game for a while. I'd love to see more original content in film... more movies written for the sake of being movies, though I'm okay with book to film translations as long as they're well-done. It's a shame, even so.
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:34 pm

Kkun (post: 1276489) wrote:Yeah, even the movies you listed are mostly drawn from previously written source material. There Will Be Blood is based on Upton Sinclair's Oil! and No Country for Old Men and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford are both film translations of books. Hollywood's been playing this game for a while. I'd love to see more original content in film... more movies written for the sake of being movies, though I'm okay with book to film translations as long as they're well-done. It's a shame, even so.


Yeah. The key to creativity and "originality" in movies is not in the story, but rather in how the story is told. Which is why those movies, while not being original in plot, are heralded as being amongst the best of their medium.

Mina really hits the nail on the head, though. Singling movies out for being "unoriginal" is unfair, as if you really wanted to criticize them for it, you'd also have to criticize a large portion of humanity's art.

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Postby Doubleshadow » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:47 pm

minakichan (post: 1276319) wrote:...Sailor Moon...


*pictures live action Sailor Moon movie as done by Hollywood*

Ow! My brain! Don't ever do that to me again!

Cowboy Bebop would make a great movie, I think. It has everything you need for a great story period. The thing is, of course, the transition from small to big screen. Part of what made Bebop great was the pacing and cramming a whole series into roughly an hour and a half would require talented screen writers and I worry the project wouldn't get the high level handling it deserves.

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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:53 pm

the sm live action tv show was actually pretty cute. Fun too.
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:10 pm

Doubleshadow (post: 1276504) wrote:*pictures live action Sailor Moon movie as done by Hollywood*

Ow! My brain! Don't ever do that to me again!


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Postby minakichan » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:46 pm

the sm live action tv show was actually pretty cute. Fun too.


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Postby Esoteric » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:38 pm

My reaction to hearing about a live action Bebop remake:
"Aww, not again. Bad idea!"

My reaction to the suggestion of Keanu playing Spike:
"Nooooooooo!"

I've never seen him play a role which suggests he could be right for the part...he's just not witty/suave enough. But generally I'm not enthusiastic about a remake in the first place. Why do we need one? The story's already been told and 90% of remakes fail to tell a better version. More often than not they tell it far worse. (And that is perhaps because 90% of remakes are made simply because they are viewed as 'guaranteed money'.)
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Postby Danderson » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:47 pm

mouse1992 (post: 1276311) wrote:Man...First, Dragonball. Now, Cowboy Bebop. Next, what?

Naruto: live action.....It would not suprise me...:shake:
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:51 pm

I dunno, I think a live action Bebop movie could work if it told a separate--but still good--story. Not a retelling of Spike vs. Vicious or Vincent, but a new story altogether. Again, with the right cast and director, I could see it being pretty good. Unfortunately, while it's not like all of Keanu Reeves's roles are bad or poorly acted, I just don't see him fitting the role of Spike. XD But hey, I'm willing to be surprised. XD
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Postby battletech » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:50 pm

A movie you fogot is Voltron (Go Lion).
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Postby KhakiBlueSocks » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:30 pm

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By Jove, I think he's got it! His acting skills are great and I think he can pull off Spike's dry sense of humor and mannerisms. They just have to find the right guy to play off him as Jet.
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Postby That Dude » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:54 pm

I think that Keanu will either do it great or it will be an epic fail. I honestly think he could pull it off really well. The question is will he though?
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Postby Solid Ronin » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:06 pm

It official, Neo is Spike.

http://www.newsarama.com/film/010916-Reeves-Bebop.html

Yeah, I actually don't think its that bad of a casting call, My only problem is well... His voice. Steve Blum really made that characters with just the sound of his voice as much as the acting itself.

But yeah, Not that bad.
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Postby That Dude » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:23 pm

Well I still have faith in it because Shinichiro Watanabe will be co-producing it and it's his baby, so I don't think that he'll let it get out of control.
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Postby EricTheFred » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:09 pm

You can keep your live-action sentais and dramas, folks. I'm holding out for the LA Hare Nochi Guu

I have no issue with a Keanu Reaves Spike Spiegel. I cringe, however, with what Hollywood may do to Faye Valentine.
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Postby minakichan » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:38 pm

Well I still have faith in it because Shinichiro Watanabe will be co-producing it and it's his baby, so I don't think that he'll let it get out of control.


Yeah, ditto. I saw that, and I felt REALLY relieved. I won't make expectations in either direction, but the "oh noes, teh Hollywood" feeling has been expelled.
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Postby animewarrior » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:29 pm

[quote="Radical Dreamer (post: 1276329)"]There's actually a live action Death Note planned. And as far as Hollywood running out of ideas is concerned, that's absolutely true. For the most part, Hollywood is no longer interested in telling stories]

*sigh* I heard rumors that *facepalm* there's talk of ... Light Yagami/Kira being played by none the other than ... Zac Efron *shudders*
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Postby Solid Ronin » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:51 pm

animewarrior (post: 1282004) wrote:*sigh* I heard rumors that *facepalm* there's talk of ... Light Yagami/Kira being played by none the other than ... Zac Efron *shudders*


Wasn't that dispelled awhile back?
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:03 am

animewarrior wrote:*sigh* I heard rumors that *facepalm* there's talk of ... Light Yagami/Kira being played by none the other than ... Zac Efron *shudders*


So for, there hasn't been any news on casting at all for the movie. The rumor that Zac Efron playing Light Yagami from an article in Anime Insider Magazine who would be a look a like for the part and then it showed up on Wiki.

Since then, it was remove from Wiki, since the rumor was not true at all.


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Postby Shiningmonk_e » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:20 am

I bet this will turn out almost as good as the Dragonball Movie...
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:52 am

EricTheFred (post: 1281979) wrote: I cringe, however, with what Hollywood may do to Faye Valentine.


Yeah, I can just see them picking someone like Angelina Jolie for her role...shudder. XD

But yeah, I didn't know Watanabe was actually co-producing it. With that in mind, I'm a lot more excited to see how it'll turn out! XD
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Postby Tarnish » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:53 pm

Radical Dreamer (post: 1282318) wrote:Yeah, I can just see them picking someone like Angelina Jolie for her role...shudder. XD

Dude. If they get Angelina in Faye's outfit, I do not care what problems I may have with Keanu Reeves. I will be first in line to see this.
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Postby minakichan » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:03 pm

Yeah, I can just see them picking someone like Angelina Jolie for her role...shudder. XD


Yeah, I dunno, Angie is sexy but not quite Faye. But.

Dude. If they get Angelina in Faye's outfit, I do not care what problems I may have with Keanu Reeves. I will be first in line to see this.


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Postby Scarecrow » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:08 am

Meh... *raspberry* I still think Keanu is a crappy pick. I don't think he can act well and I don't think he can pull this off. Spike has more personality than Neo and Neo is the only type of character Keanu is capable of playing.

Personally, Spike's cockiness and look has always reminded me of Ben Affleck. I'm no Ben Affleck fan but I thought he would have been perfect in this role. Ben can also be quite dry and witty even if he does come off as a pompous windbag at times.
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Postby Tarnish » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:21 am

minakichan (post: 1282447) wrote:Yeah, I dunno, Angie is sexy but not quite Faye.

I must respectfully disagree.

I'd have no problem with it.
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Postby mechana2015 » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:22 am

Scarecrow (post: 1282558) wrote:Personally, Spike's cockiness and look has always reminded me of Ben Affleck. I'm no Ben Affleck fan but I thought he would have been perfect in this role. Ben can also be quite dry and witty even if he does come off as a pompous windbag at times.


Unfortunately, though Affleck is a good actor and has some fight experience, he's built like a football player. He probably couldn't come anywhere close to Spikes build or look no matter what he did.
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Postby minakichan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:21 am

Tarnish (post: 1282559) wrote:I must respectfully disagree.

I'd have no problem with it.


*jawdrop*

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Postby That Dude » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:59 am

The real question is, who would play a good Jet? Or Ed for that matter?
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Postby Scarecrow » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:49 pm

Jason Statham could make a decent Jet IMO. I have absolutely no idea for Ed though o_O
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Postby Roy Mustang » Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:30 pm

Producer: live-action Cowboy Bebop will not be origin story


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3 Arts Entertainment producer Erwin Stoff (The Matrix, I am Legend, Kings) has told the iFMagazine.com website that the live-action Cowboy Bebop film in development will not be an origin story. “We start with [the main character, bounty hunter Spike Spiegel], when he is in his present life already.â€
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