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Postby rocklobster » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:57 am

Everyone always thinks Disney movies are fun, charming, and most of all--kid-friendly. *grabs bullhorn* BALONEY!!! Disney looves to torture children with some of the saddest movies ever made. And this is a company famous for entertaining kids! So what do you think is the saddest Disney cartoon ever made? My vote is a two-way tie between Bambi and The Lion King.
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Postby bigsleepj » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:40 am

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Postby ChristianKitsune » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:00 am

Dumbo, Bambi, Lion King, and Fox and the Hound... (poor Farmer Tweed! =_=)
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:09 am

It's a million-way tie between all their contrived direct-to-video sequels (Cinderella THREE. THREE.)

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Postby Puguni » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:26 am

Raiden no Kishi (post: 1258079) wrote:It's a million-way tie between all their contrived direct-to-video sequels (Cinderella THREE. THREE.)

Disney is dead to me.

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It was good for a laugh. Frankly, I've seen worse. Disney is only truly dead if they stop coming up with new material and rely solely on sequels.

Anyway, keeping on topic, I thought Pinocchio was sad in the end, sort of.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:56 am

Dumbo is really sad. Pinocchio is sad and scary, but it has a happy end, so that's good.
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Postby Kurama » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:41 pm

Raiden no Kishi (post: 1258079) wrote:
Disney is dead to me.

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Postby K. Ayato » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:43 pm

My vote goes to Old Yeller. I know, I know, it's not animated. But it IS still Disney.
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Postby rocklobster » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:02 pm

K. Ayato (post: 1258101) wrote:My vote goes to Old Yeller. I know, I know, it's not animated. But it IS still Disney.


I really didn't want to bring up that movie. I'm a dog-lover. I hate watching that poor dog die:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(WAAH!
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Postby Roy Mustang » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:07 pm

When I saw Bambi, I laugh at it.

I don't think there is a Disney movie that made me cry at all.

I only cry to things in real life as people I know or pets that I know, then I do with movies.


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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:56 pm

Puguni (post: 1258085) wrote:It was good for a laugh. Frankly, I've seen worse. Disney is only truly dead if they stop coming up with new material and rely solely on sequels.

Anyway, keeping on topic, I thought Pinocchio was sad in the end, sort of.


Oh, I've seen their new material. Beverly Hills freakin' Chihuahua. That's fine cinema right there. If it isn't dead, it's a rotting zombie.

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Postby Radical Dreamer » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:02 pm

I get choked up every time I see The Fox and the Hound. It's almost like a reflex. XD
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Postby Popsicle » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:09 pm

Omgosh...Fox and the Hound always makes me get teary-eyed! And it's always at the same part! D: Lion King is sad too.

haha...and for some reason when I saw Lilo and Stitch for the first time I cried a little bit at the part where Stitch is reading the Ugly Duckling book in the forest all alone. lol, I can't believe I did. XD I was kinda young though. haha, I'm so stupid! I don't even like that movie!
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Postby Azier the Swordsman » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:38 pm

I still remember the first time I ever watched Fox and the Hound when I was seven or eight. I was crying really hard throughout the whole film, problem was, I was in a room full of people and didn't want to admit I was crying, so I kept sticking my head inside my shirt and making the excuse that I was really tired. In truth, I was having a full blown weepfest. :grin:

Disney still has the power to make me cry, but in a much different way now. :eyeroll:
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Postby GhostontheNet » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:14 am

rocklobster (post: 1258065) wrote:Everyone always thinks Disney movies are fun, charming, and most of all--kid-friendly. *grabs bullhorn* BALONEY!!! Disney looves to torture children with some of the saddest movies ever made. And this is a company famous for entertaining kids! So what do you think is the saddest Disney cartoon ever made? My vote is a two-way tie between Bambi and The Lion King.
I think it would be a mistake to ignore the fun and kid-friendly element of Disney movies, but this is not the only thing going on in them. Frankly, Disney is a company of fairy tales, and like most fairy tales, Disney's films contain certain tragic themes like lost or orphaned children. For me, it is the films that most deeply explore the theme of lost children that make me feel the saddest and loneliest, and in this category I would list Pinocchio, Alice In Wonderland, and The Rescuers. Still, I think the tragic element of Disney movies gives kids a cathartic outlet for some of childhood's deepest anxieties (i.e. "What would happen to me if mommy and daddy died or went away forever?"), so I think it's good for them in the long run.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:26 am

Raiden no Kishi (post: 1258079) wrote:It's a million-way tie between all their contrived direct-to-video sequels (Cinderella THREE. THREE.)

Disney is dead to me.

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Raiden no Kishi wrote:Oh, I've seen their new material. Beverly Hills freakin' Chihuahua. That's fine cinema right there. If it isn't dead, it's a rotting zombie.
While it is true that, to quote the Punk band The Subhumans, "Mickey Mouse is Dead", the same cannot be truthfully said of Disney. Admittedly, the long slump of half-baked straight-to-video animated sequels was a serious all-time low for the company. Thankfully, that trend seems to have sharply declined now, and in my personal opinion (and also that of my aunt, who has worked for Disney World since before I was born), the company is becoming much much cooler in recent years than it has been in decades. On the computer generated front, the company's reacquisition of Pixar has produced the positively brilliant and successful WALL-E, which is serious coupe by anyone's standards. If there's anything we've learned from Pixar's history since the release of Toy Story, it's that the studio can be consistently counted on to release clever, intelligent, memorable, and culturally relevant films appreciated by the widest possible audience. With the release of Chicken Little and Meet The Robinsons, Disney's own in-house computer-generated studio shows increasing signs of becoming a force in their own right. Closer to home for the CAA, Disney continues to hold the rights to Hayao Miyazaki's films, and has produced them with subs and dubs of remarkable quality. While (aside from brief flashes of brilliance) Disney has failed to get viewers to believe in and empathize with animated films for the past decade or so, the company has effectively coped with this by filming live action fairy tales in which worlds of fantasy collide with reality, leading to interesting insights into both worlds. This trend has lately produced films like Enchanted, The Chronicles of Narnia series, and Bridge to Terabithia, each of which I've found to be remarkably enjoyable. More promising still, word is Disney has contracted Tim Burton to direct a live action remake of Alice in Wonderland and a 3D stop-motion remake of Frankenweenie (ironically the film that got Burton fired from Disney very early in his career). Even the new old-school Disney animated project The Frog Prince looks promising with a good balance of charm, magic, and wit. And on the more personal level, my aunt reports that Disney World theme park has vastly improved over the last couple of years, and as she has always been very honest to us about her employer (even on bits that don't make very good public relations), I am inclined to believe her. Taken all together, then, Disney shows a lot of potential right now in spite of brief lapses in judgment like releasing another "Hey, what if dogs know a lot more than we think they know?" movie.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:52 am

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

The dwarfs do everything but the prince from nowhere gets the girl? Lame lame lame.
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Postby termyt » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:48 am

GhostontheNet (post: 1258245) wrote:Edit: Oh brother, leave it to a connection lapse to inadvertently lead to a double post. Please delete this.
Double? XD

I'm proud of Disney for incorporating these elements into their movies. I've not been a Disney fan since Beauty and the Beast and their live action movies have been mostly dreadful since, well, Mary Poppins I guess? But there's no moral to a story that is nothing but happy.

Dumbo is high on the list, though, for me. Probably the saddest IMO.
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Postby GeneD » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:36 am

Gosh, I can't even remember Dumbo. I suppose Lion King and there's a part in Lilo and Stitch where Lilo and her sister are fighting and the part where the "men-in-black" come to take Lilo away from her sister that makes me sad. Neither make me cry though.
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Postby Sheenar » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:58 am

Dumbo and The Lion King definitely. That scene where Dumbo's mother is locked up and she is rocking him in her trunk through the bars...so sad.

Lady and the Tramp is up there too. The scene in the pound and also when the wagon fell on Trusty...poor old guy.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:22 am

termyt (post: 1258284) wrote:Double? XD

I'm proud of Disney for incorporating these elements into their movies. I've not been a Disney fan since Beauty and the Beast and their live action movies have been mostly dreadful since, well, Mary Poppins I guess? But there's no moral to a story that is nothing but happy.

Dumbo is high on the list, though, for me. Probably the saddest IMO.
Yes, double. In this case a complete carbon copy of my comments about why I think the company shows a lot of promise right now. Maybe it's a generation gap thing (with the end of your own fanhood notably falling when you were about 18), but being a young man of a much different generation, I think Disney has done a very good job once they figured out that we of generation Y and Z have a much different outlook on things. Personally, I think Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks were brilliant, and in their own way, the films I listed recapture the essence of what made those two very special. While we must agree to disagree on such matters, it is good that we are agreed on the utility of the tragic element for very similar reasons.
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Postby eternalprincess » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:41 pm

The Fox and the Hound. That's the only movie that gets me close to sniffling. Everything else, forget it.

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Postby Kairi » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:39 pm

The Lion King and Bambi never fail to make me cry. XD There's just something about the main character losing a parent. I mean... Dumbo is sad as well, but at least he was able to return to his mother in the end. Mufasa only came back in, er, spirit? And Bambi's mom probably ended up hanging over some dude's fireplace.

Tarzan also gets me every time during that scene where Kala is trying to comfort little Tarzan because he doesn't fit in. Then she starts singing "You'll Be In My Heart"... and it switches over to the Phil Collins version. I always tear up. XD

The Fox and the Hound and The Hunchback of Notre Dame are honorable mentions.
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Postby the_wolfs_howl » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:05 pm

Dumbo would probably be first on my list. I watched that when I was...five? My mom was watching too - I think it was probably the first time she'd seen it as well - and in the scene where Dumbo visits his mother my mom started crying. I have never been able to hold back tears when I see someone else crying, so I started crying too, even though I didn't really understand why. I've never really liked Dumbo after that.

Bridge to Terabithia would be next. I've watched that movie three times after reading the book, and I cry every single time, even when I know exactly what's going to happen and remember exactly when Jess starts crying. I would say that scene in the woods where Jess is crying with his dad is the best bit of child acting I've ever seen. And wow! It's a Disney movie, albeit live-action.

If Pixar counts as being half-Disney, then I cried in Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc., and Wall-E. In Toy Story 2, it was the part where Jessie (is that her name?) tells about her previous owner and the song "When She Loved Me" plays. Oh dude, that turns me into a human hosepipe without fail T_T In Monsters Inc., I cried when Sully's saying goodbye to Boo. It's so heartfelt and emotional! And then, yes, I shed a few tears at the end of Wall-E. Even though I knew in the back of my head what was going to happen, because it's the cliche thing to happen, I was feeling the sorrow of that moment as if I couldn't guess what was going to happen (if that made any sense at all). And that, I think, is amazing. I was crying over a little robot who can barely even say his own name.

I would not say that Disney is completely dead. They haven't come out with very many good movies for a long time, but a few traces of the magic are still there, I think. All Disney needs is for someone to take charge who knows where to find the pixie dust.
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Postby Tommy » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:00 pm

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Postby sharien chan » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:34 pm

I sobbed at Lion King....granted I was in 3rd grade...but still!
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Postby yukoxholic » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:06 am

I've never cried at a Disney movie but I thought The Hunchback of Notre Dame was kind of sad.
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Postby ADXC » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:03 pm

Fox and the hound, The Lion King, and Tarzan.
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