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Postby Gabriel 9.0 » Thu May 29, 2008 10:35 pm

Share your thoughts on how you think it will be.

I myself hope is better than the first one.
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Postby Tommy » Thu May 29, 2008 10:42 pm

I myself hope there's more than two minutes of fighting and less than two minutes of Shia LaBarf.
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Postby Nate » Thu May 29, 2008 10:43 pm

I wasn't aware that it had even been confirmed yet.

At any rate it will probably suck if Michael Bay is involved again. Hopefully we'll get people that understand one basic principle of Transformers: ONE token human, and then proceed to have multiple robots shooting each other. Y'know, pretty much the opposite of the first one.
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Postby Kurama » Thu May 29, 2008 10:49 pm

All I thought when I saw the title of this thread was "NO WAI?!!!"

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Postby Roy Mustang » Thu May 29, 2008 11:15 pm

Nate wrote:I wasn't aware that it had even been confirmed yet.

At any rate it will probably suck if Michael Bay is involved again. Hopefully we'll get people that understand one basic principle of Transformers: ONE token human, and then proceed to have multiple robots shooting each other. Y'know, pretty much the opposite of the first one.


It was comfirmed a few weeks after the first movie came out and sadly, Michael Bay is involved in it.

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Postby Nate » Thu May 29, 2008 11:19 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1231171) wrote:It was comfirmed a few weeks after the first movie came out and sadly, Michael Bay is involved in it.

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Postby Roy Mustang » Thu May 29, 2008 11:27 pm

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:lol:

And I found some news about Transformers 2.

Wilson has Transformers 2 role


Sci Fi Channel wrote:Rainn Wilson (NBC's The Office) told MTV that he has been cast in DreamWorks' Transformers 2, the sequel to last year's megahit about a race of automotive automatons, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The sequel reteams director Michael Bay with returning stars Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson and John Turturro.

Wilson will reportedly have a small role in the sequel as a college professor to LaBeouf's new undergraduate. Discussions with Jonah Hill to take another small role did not pan out.

The story was conceived by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who wrote the first movie, as well as Ehren Kruger, who wrote the screenplay. Filming began in Los Angeles in recent weeks and is moving to Pennsylvania and then overseas.


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Postby rocklobster » Fri May 30, 2008 6:58 am

I have one idea:
"Constructicons--Transform! Phase One!"
*cue transforming noise that we all know and love*
"Phase Two! Merge to become DEVASTATOR!"
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Fri May 30, 2008 7:50 am

Euh...it probably won't be any good. I'd like it to be, but it probably won't.
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Postby Danderson » Fri May 30, 2008 8:50 am

I really hope it's as good if not better then the first.....That rather then another pointless sequel it'd be an exciting contiuation or conclusion of the story......
....At least that's what I hope for....whether or not that means it'll happen, who knows.....
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Postby Nate » Fri May 30, 2008 9:07 am

rocklobster wrote:I have one idea:
"Constructicons--Transform! Phase One!"
*cue transforming noise that we all know and love*
"Phase Two! Merge to become DEVASTATOR!"

Bzzzt, sorry. Not gonna happen. Know why? Because Michael Bay screwed it up. Devastator was the tank in the first Transformers movie. So now they can't use the Constructicons, because then there would be two Devastators and that would be confusing.

Don't you just love Michael Bay? Oh wait, hate. I meant hate.
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Postby LadyRushia » Fri May 30, 2008 9:20 am

I liked the first one. Then again, I never got into the cartoon. Unfortunately, sequels tend to fail horribly, so while I'd like for this to be completely awesome I won't get my hopes up.
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Postby ~darkelfgirl~ » Fri May 30, 2008 9:40 am

LadyRushia (post: 1231253) wrote:I liked the first one. Then again, I never got into the cartoon. Unfortunately, sequels tend to fail horribly, so while I'd like for this to be completely awesome I won't get my hopes up.


Same here lol.

The only things I couldn't stand were that chick (nowadays the female roles are quite...yeh, that) and the love moments. Can't they have a movie without that stuff? Sheesh.
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Postby Nate » Fri May 30, 2008 10:59 am

~darkelfgirl~ wrote:The only things I couldn't stand were that chick (nowadays the female roles are quite...yeh, that) and the love moments. Can't they have a movie without that stuff? Sheesh.

QFT. Especially since we're talking about, oh, I don't know, TRANSFORMERS, there is zero reason to have a love story in there.

Unless the love story is "Me Grimlock love kicking butt!"
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Postby Peanut » Fri May 30, 2008 12:18 pm

Personally I'm glad that Michale Bay is involved again...why? Well, I can now set my expectations at the "Well at least this movie will look nice" level and then be surprised if it has a decent script for at least half of the movie and some ok acting here and there.

~darkelfgirl~ wrote:The only things I couldn't stand were that chick (nowadays the female roles are quite...yeh, that) and the love moments. Can't they have a movie without that stuff? Sheesh.


Michale Bay (or whoever is writing the Transformers 2 script) if you are reading this...do us all a favor...in the first few minutes of the movie have a giant robot crush Mikaela. Maybe have Optimus just randomly sit down on her, or have Starscream get shot out of the air and smash into her. I don't care...just get rid of her in the first few seconds of the movie and I will immediately consider this to be the greatest movie ever made...well...as long as you don't replace her.
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Postby Gabriel 9.0 » Fri May 30, 2008 12:51 pm

Oh come on Nate and Peanut, at least it isn't Owe Boll directing:evil:. I bet Mr. Bay will improve this time around.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Fri May 30, 2008 3:44 pm

The only things I couldn't stand were that chick (nowadays the female roles are quite...yeh, that) and the love moments. Can't they have a movie without that stuff? Sheesh.


Michael Bay has a bit of a habit of doing that. He did the same thing with Pearl Harbor and a few other films that he did.


I want to slap him for making the movie Pearl Harbor and Transformers.



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Postby ich1990 » Sat May 31, 2008 4:38 pm

I can't really add much to what everyone else has already said:

The movie is called "Transformers" not "Humans". If I wanted to watch a high school romance/drama I would have. Stick to blowing/shooting/burning stuff up please. Also, Bumblebee was way cooler as a rusty 1976 camaro than he was as the new model.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sat May 31, 2008 4:48 pm

I wish Bumblebee was the yellow Volkswagen Beetle that we all knew from the cartoon.

But GM got their hands in the movie and no other car maker Vehicles could be used in the movie.

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Postby Nate » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:12 am

ich1990 wrote:Also, Bumblebee was way cooler as a rusty 1976 camaro than he was as the new model.

XD I was watching the Rifftrax for Transformers just a while ago, and the part where Bumblebee turns into his newer form, Bill says, "Wow, now he's the crappier new Camaro that's worth less!"
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Postby eternalprincess » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:01 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1231171) wrote:It was comfirmed a few weeks after the first movie came out and sadly, Michael Bay is involved in it.

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I'm still though, personally looking forward to the movie. Though somebody will most likely get a rant from me once I see it. . . XDD

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Postby Nate » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:07 am

"Michael Bay orders more confusion be shipped to the set!"
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Postby Kkun » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:33 am

Nate (post: 1231149) wrote:I wasn't aware that it had even been confirmed yet.

At any rate it will probably suck if Michael Bay is involved again. Hopefully we'll get people that understand one basic principle of Transformers: ONE token human, and then proceed to have multiple robots shooting each other. Y'know, pretty much the opposite of the first one.


And if that one token human is Megan Fox, all the better. All the better.

But seriously (not that any thread where I mention Megan Fox isn't serious), I enjoyed it for what it was. I guess I can't understand the abomination of the film because Transformers wasn't a part of my childhood. I enjoyed the movie, though. It was a campy special effects-laden Michael Bay action film based on a cartoon franchise from the 1980s that was one big half-hour commercial for parents to buy their children action figures. I don't really know what all of you were expecting. I was impressed that the film wasn't worse than it turned out!

As for the second...I enjoyed the first one, so I don't care. More Megan Fox, more giant robots. I'm not expecting anything particularly profound.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:01 am

I honestly thought the movie was slightly above the TV show in terms of writing quality. That show is just bad. Bad in a good way, sometimes, but mostly just bad. >_> If you want to watch Transformers, watch the 1986 movie. XD At least it has cool animation and an awesome soundtrack.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:07 am

I personally loved Transformers. I do wish there were more Robot action but well it was a popcorn flick and well a crappy romance part was in there. When i watch Micheal Bay movies i expect one thing explosions (bad boys 2 sucked hard but it also ruled because of the blowing stuff up)
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Postby Nate » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51 am

Kkun wrote:I guess I can't understand the abomination of the film because Transformers wasn't a part of my childhood.

Transformers was a part of my childhood, but I admit the 80s cartoon was pretty terrible. Characters appeared out of nowhere, colors frequently shifted, and not a lot made sense. XD The movie had a slightly (SLIGHTLY) better plot and writing than the cartoon (the original cartoon, Beast Wars blows this trash out of the water).
I don't really know what all of you were expecting.

I was expecting Transformers. What I got instead was G.I. Joe with occasional giant robots. "Transformers, now 95% Transformers free!" Yeah, it's a joke, but the sad part is it's not actually that far from the truth.

Let me give you an example. Jazz is a Transformer. The title of the movie is Transformers. Right? Jazz had two lines in the entire movie. Two. In comparison, the phone operator who appeared in the scene where that soldier was trying to call the Pentagon, also had two lines.

Do you not see the problem here? That one of the supposed STARS of the movie got as many lines as a small throwaway character? That's just absurd, there was no excuse for that. Not only that but you know, watching the final battle in the city, the camera is apparently held by someone with ADD because there's no way to tell what the heck is going on. It doesn't help that all the Transformers pretty much look exactly the same in robot form, with the exception of Optimus and Bumblebee. When your audience can't tell who is fighting who, and how, and where, you have FAILED as a director.

Do I even have to mention the huge plot hole with them turning into vehicles? Okay, let me break it down for you like this. The reason Transformers transform is because they use their alternate mode to disguise themselves as the indigenous life-forms to that planet. This is why in Beast Wars, they turn into animals, and one of the later characters (Botanica) turned into a plant, because they landed on a planet filled with plant life.

This is also why, in the comics, the Dinobots turn into dinosaurs. They crash-landed in the Savage Land (a primitive area filled with dinosaurs) and so they gained dinosaur forms.

The reason why the Transformers, in the cartoon/comics turn into cars and vehicles is that when Teletraan I reactivated, it made a mistake. It actually thought that because there were so many cars, that this was the dominant life form. THAT is why they gained vehicle modes.

In the movie, Teletraan I didn't exist, and heck, even Optimus or whichever one climbed out of the pool at that house, had that little girl ask "Are you the tooth fairy?" making it obvious that THESE were the dominant life forms. Thus for them to gain vehicle alternate modes makes NO SENSE.

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Postby ShiroiHikari » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:59 am

You know Nate, I never thought of that before. The plot hole thing, that is. That's pretty lame. XD
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Postby Gabriel 9.0 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:59 pm

I was expecting Transformers. What I got instead was G.I. Joe with occasional giant robots. "Transformers, now 95% Transformers free!" Yeah, it's a joke, but the sad part is it's not actually that far from the truth.


GI JOE is good though, even though you didn't say it wasn't.
A interesting thing I found out is that GI JOE and Transformers are in the same universe, well the GI JOE Versus Transformers series anyway.

Come on guys, I'm sure it will be better than the first one, I'm just glad Owe Boll isn't behind it.
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Postby Tommy » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:13 pm

It was an enjoyable movie if you didn't grow up with the franchise and expected it to be more centered on humans.
The second I found out Shia LaBarf was going to star in it, I knew he would steal the spotlight far more the Optimus Prime.
The teenage drama aspect made it more appealing to the next generation.

Sure, I hated the plot holes and the fact the Transformers were ignored, but to be honest, I expected worse.
I know it's hard to fathom, but I expected worse.

And as Jamie said: Megan Fox.

I'll give it a chance. =]
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Postby creed4 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:52 pm

I liked the movie. and can't wait for the sequel. Hope they bring in Galvatron
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