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Postby AsianBlossom » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:13 am

So again with the characters, but I've been thinking a lot about Sanji and his smoking habit lately (yeah, One Piece has grown on me lately since I've been reading the manga more...I'm up to book 10 and this could easily become my favorite series). I watch him light up one cigarette after another, and I ask myself, "What, does he want to die young or cause himself problems later in life? And does he WANT to repel girls?" Also, he was clearly told by Chef Zeff to not start smoking in the first place. He did anyway.

It's enough to make me want to write Oda-san and say, "Hey, you know, Sanji's gonna kill himself if he keeps smoking. Please either have him drink gallons of green tea or send some character to get him to quit." I say green tea because I read it contains plenty of antioxidants, which the Herb Bible explains cuts the cancer rate among Japanese smokers.*

(Note: I don't know if anyone here smokes, so please accept my apology if you find this post offensive)

So have you ever watched a character doing something and you were thinking to yourself, "Nooooooo, don't do that! That's stupid!" or something? I have several times before, but it wasn't always for anime.



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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:50 am

If characters were anything more than lines on a page, I would probably put more time into thinking about it. XD

But no. Lines can't get lung cancer unless it's part of the plot that they end up dying from it, in which case it was inevitable anyways. XD So yeah, I don't really care one way or the other. XD
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:54 am

Smoke doesn't really repel me unless it's too much and they stink XD

I just hate when characters can't figure out who they love XD
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Postby Fish and Chips » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:43 am

My readings of One Piece have led me to believe Sanji has bigger problems than lung cancer in his near future. If he's survived 40 volumes, I'm sure he'll be just fine.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:51 am

Characters Doing Stupid (or Just Plain Dangerous) Things


: : rips a page out of Fish's book : :

So I heard you like anime.

. . .

Okay, that was a little mean. But seriously, dangerous/stupid things are most anime characters' bread and butter. And I think that most of us love them for it.

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Postby chibiphonebooth » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:18 am

yah... like... what about those characters who fight with giant knife guns or bloody evil animal parts or something crazy? and they fight and jump off buildings and stab each other and shoot lasers out of their eyes and throw fire from their lungs....



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I dunno about you, but that sounds kinda dangerous. :I
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:31 am

Raiden no Kishi (post: 1217415) wrote:: : rips a page out of Fish's book : :

So I heard you like anime.

. . .

Okay, that was a little mean. But seriously, dangerous/stupid things are most anime characters' bread and butter. And I think that most of us love them for it.

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Amen......Vash comes to mind this should be a thread dedicated to vash. Buut i kinda see what you gettting at you mean dangertous and stupid things like smoking drinking, and other "normal" stupid and dangerous things. I think it boils down to this they are moving pictures and well (don't hit me) cartoons (in a way not fully) so if the animater wants Sanji to smoke 2 packs at once and run a mile without stopping in like a minute because in the animated would physics and health is not the same as it is here. Space Jam tought me that and if i ever meet daffy duck and can beat the crap out of him without breaking him. Sorry little off topic :sweat:
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Postby Doubleshadow » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:34 am

It bugs me when female characters in shojo make really terrible decisions over a guy. I just want to chew them out.
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Postby Nate » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:15 pm

My great grandfather smoked three packs a day and lived to 85 and died not of lung cancer but of heart problems.

Also I doubt Sanji would die from lung cancer considering he has a bounty on his head now.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:22 pm

Sanji, whatever. Is no one concerned over Commodore Smoker's bill of health?

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Raiden no Kishi (post: 1217415) wrote:: : rips a page out of Fish's book : :

So I heard you like anime.

It is a best seller.
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Postby Nate » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:27 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:Is no one concerned over Commodore Smoker's bill of health?

Smoker is probably okay because he can turn his entire body into smoke. In fact maybe it's necessary for him to smoke to live. Like if he stopped smoking he would dissipate. It is possible!
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Postby Tsukuyomi » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:30 pm

Characters doing stupid or dangerous things.. hmmm.. lets see. Oh yeay, Tenma scaling down the second floor (I think it was) with toilet plungers in School Rumble XDD All to avoid a guy, but he ended up seeing her anyway XDD

*Actually reads the thread* Oh, those kind od stupid dangerous things >_>
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Postby ~darkelfgirl~ » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:29 pm

Um, this has been tickling my brain for a while.

In Advent Children (yes, I can sense you all rolling your eyes!!), why does Tifa and Marlene (I think?) smile at each other while Loz is on the floor! I mean, shouldn't they be running? I mean, a creep (in their circumstance) just walks in, asking "to play", and fights with Tifa. I mean, in actuality, shouldn't Tifa be telling Marlene to run or to hide? o.o Instead of smiling at each other?

Another thing--in Sailor Moon, the Sailor Scouts always transform in front of the bad guys. I always wondered why the bad guys never notice that the one girl standing in front of them has changed into a totally different person.

Oh--and in anime in general. What's with the naming of an attack before attacking? It's like--"heads up, enemy! I'm attacking you with lightning bolt!" I guess it's for the benefit of the fans?

As for dangerous decisions--L and Mello eat so unhealthy (I mean, endless dessert and chocolate?).
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Postby Tsukuyomi » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:55 pm

Lol, DBZ :P Yeah, they should like.. attack first then explain it :P

I guess it is for the fans ^^

And yes, wouldn't you know it was me if I transformed right in front of you,"Who is that girl :o" Lawlawlawlawl XDD
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Postby AsianBlossom » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:16 pm

Now that I think about it, I was kind of in a ranting mood earlier. Yeah, they're just characters and all, like Radical Dreamer said.

But from what I've read already, Sanji is almost at the bottom of the list of doing dangerous/stupid things.

I definitely agree with the "attack name" thing. Not only is it dangerous...but it kind of grates on the audience's ears after a while. Am I right? Perhaps it was for the fans in DBZ, but it's like everywhere now.
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Postby LadyRushia » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:43 pm

Deg wrote:I mean, in actuality, shouldn't Tifa be telling Marlene to run or to hide? o.o Instead of smiling at each other?

You see, Tifa is basically saying, "Don't worry. I'm about to beat this guy in the face."
Deg wrote:Another thing--in Sailor Moon, the Sailor Scouts always transform in front of the bad guys. I always wondered why the bad guys never notice that the one girl standing in front of them has changed into a totally different person.

There's always that theory that the transformation scenes happen in half a second but are slowed down for T.V.'s sake. Also, all of the "monster of the week" baddies are always killed on the spot. It's almost like "You know who I am. I'm going to have to kill you now. <B["

Hey now, some attack names are awesome. Who wouldn't want to announce something like "Supreme Thunder" or "Shine Aqua Illusion"?
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Postby Tsukuyomi » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:50 pm

True, but still. If I was standing in front of you one second and didn't move. Then there was suddenly someone eles.. wouldn't that signal something or something like that?

My head hurts o_o


And yes, Tifa is giving Marlene a reassuring smile that every thing will be alright ^^
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Postby Kaligraphic » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:22 pm

It's the classical transforming magical girl weakness. They have to change their clothes in order to satisfy their vanity and sense of fashionable justice. Then they have to twirl around in their own little world for a moment in order to distract themselves from the fact that they're basically stripping in public and then dressing themselves again. Their enemies, however, are typically just so bewildered by this insane behaviour that they fail to notice that a well-placed bullet or two could take these girls down while they're busy spinning around half-dressed and oblivious.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:19 pm

LadyRushia (post: 1217553) wrote:You see, Tifa is basically saying, "Don't worry. I'm about to beat this guy in the face."

There's always that theory that the transformation scenes happen in half a second but are slowed down for T.V.'s sake. Also, all of the "monster of the week" baddies are always killed on the spot. It's almost like "You know who I am. I'm going to have to kill you now. <B["

Hey now, some attack names are awesome. Who wouldn't want to announce something like "Supreme Thunder" or "Shine Aqua Illusion"?


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Postby Debitt » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:22 pm

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And let us not forget its counterpart, SHINING FINGER.
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Postby Doubleshadow » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:34 pm

LadyRushia (post: 1217553) wrote:Hey now, some attack names are awesome. Who wouldn't want to announce something like "Supreme Thunder" or "Shine Aqua Illusion"?


How about:
STAR SERIOUS LASER! or STAR GENTLE UTERUS! or STAR SENSITIVE INFERNO!

That last one really sounds like something your doctor should look at.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:39 pm

Doubleshadow (post: 1217626) wrote:STAR GENTLE UTERUS!

*Spits coffee.*

Wait. I don't drink coffee.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:56 pm

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Postby Nate » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:36 pm

How do you fight evil with a gentle uterus?
There's always that theory that the transformation scenes happen in half a second but are slowed down for T.V.'s sake.

This isn't a theory; it's essentially correct, especially in the case of Sailor Moon. Proof of this is in the episode where Haruka is attacked by a monster. Michiru shows up and transforms into Sailor Neptune pretty much immediately. This shows that the transformations are mostly instantaneous, with the sequences being just for show (and to fill time :p).
What's with the naming of an attack before attacking? It's like--"heads up, enemy! I'm attacking you with lightning bolt!" I guess it's for the benefit of the fans?

Actually it has its basis in magic. Most spells require a verbal incantation, as well as specific gestures/movements in order to cast them correctly. Thus, it stands to reason that the attack moves in anime are the same way, requiring the correct incantation and movements to "cast."

This does have exceptions though, as sometimes in Sailor Moon characters are shown using attacks without saying the name or doing the motions.
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Postby Maledicte » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:47 pm

Fish and Chips (post: 1217446) wrote:Sanji, whatever. Is no one concerned over Commodore Smoker's bill of health?

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You're not supposed to inhale cigar smoke. If he's smoking correctly, he oughta be okay.

Nate wrote:Smoker is probably okay because he can turn his entire body into smoke. In fact maybe it's necessary for him to smoke to live. Like if he stopped smoking he would dissipate. It is possible!

Kind of like Feathertop by Nathaniel Hawthorne.
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Postby AsianBlossom » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:46 am

Nate (post: 1217642) wrote:Actually it has its basis in magic. Most spells require a verbal incantation, as well as specific gestures/movements in order to cast them correctly. Thus, it stands to reason that the attack moves in anime are the same way, requiring the correct incantation and movements to "cast."


And all Roy Mustang has to do is snap his fingers. XD

This does have exceptions though, as sometimes in Sailor Moon characters are shown using attacks without saying the name or doing the motions.


Well, I could understand all that I've quoted you saying just now, but...what about characters who DON'T have magical powers and just shout out the names of an attack that looks just like a kick? Or a punch?

Maybe they're showing off? Like, "Ha ha! I named my kicks and punches! I am so much cooler than you!" XD

Just a thought.

Hey, maybe I should rename this thread to something like "Characters Doing Unusual Things" or something.
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Postby Debitt » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:26 am

Nate (post: 1217642) wrote:How do you fight evil with a gentle uterus?

The answer may surprise you!
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Postby AsianBlossom » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:31 am

O_O

We might want to get off this subject before this topic gets locked...
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Postby Nate » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:56 am

Sailor Star Maker started it. :\
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:21 pm

Debitt (post: 1217625) wrote:And let us not forget its counterpart, SHINING FINGER.


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