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Postby ChristianKitsune » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:59 pm

There was another College Campus shooting, this time at Northern Illinois University

News Stories from Foxnews and CNN:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330730,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/14/university.shooting/index.html

22 injured, and 7 dead including the gunman... at latest report.

I...really don't know what to say...except to please keep these families and students in your prayers.

Apparently this is the 4th or 5th act of campus (including high schools) shooting in less than a week...
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Postby Cardinalman » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:03 pm

the niu was the only one i knew about, but they need to be in our prayers
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Postby Nate » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:31 pm

In before "How long until Jack Thompson blames video games?"
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Postby GhostontheNet » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:56 pm

ChristianKitsune (post: 1199559) wrote:22 casualties, and 5 dead including the gunman... at latest report.


I trust you mean 22 injured? Because casualties often refers to those who have died in wartime or an accident, you may wish to edit this to injured to be more clear. What miserable tragedy.... I have to listen through Joy Division just to even begin to cope with all this carnage in my mind, especially their "Day Of The Lords" where they scream "Where will it end?!?!" My friend Susan is almost ready to leave the country, and I'm starting to be glad that I was kicked out of college for a semester for poor grades.
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Postby Ingemar » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:18 pm

^ It is possible to be a casualty without dying. An injury can be considered a casualty.
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Postby GhostontheNet » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:28 pm

Ingemar (post: 1199591) wrote:^ It is possible to be a casualty without dying. An injury can be considered a casualty.


This is true, but for the sake of clarity its often best not to use it in this fashion.
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Postby Danderson » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:20 am

It is sad to see this, but with what all that has happened in our country these past 15 years alone, it doesn't come as a suprise to me.....

We still live in a world still under the influence of sin.....But honestly, I hope and pray that next time something like this happens there will be people that God can use to either stop it or to protect others.....Not saying no ones ever done that in these situations, it's just u don't really hear much about ppl like that.....
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Postby K. Ayato » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:55 am

I just saw that on the news while I was at the gym. *Shakes head* When will it end?
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:29 am

What is the deal with this? There must be some reason why all these shootings are happening. (And don't say "video games".)
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Postby Nate » Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:16 pm

Fox is now reporting that Kazmierczak was not taking his medication for an unspecified condition and acting erratically in recent weeks.

Of course, it's from Fox, so...y'know...take it with a mountain of salt.
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Postby KhakiBlueSocks » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:07 pm

[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]This is really getting depressing. Just last week, a Technical College in Baton Rouge had a school shooting. A girl (Student) went into the school, shot two others, then shot herself.

Almost makes you wanna crawl in your bed and pull the covers over your head.[/color][/SIZE][/font]
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:25 pm

Nate (post: 1199577) wrote:In before "How long until Jack Thompson blames video games?"

I'm curious as to how much of a concern this is to you.

Caring too much for the video game industry, perhaps? Maybe it's just me.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:37 pm

Nate (post: 1199722) wrote:Fox is now reporting that Kazmierczak was not taking his medication for an unspecified condition and acting erratically in recent weeks.

Of course, it's from Fox, so...y'know...take it with a mountain of salt.


It wasn't just fox...


CNN, and Yahoo also reported this.
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Postby Amzi Live » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:19 pm

I believe it's the consequences of how we have let our country decline on what is good,and true.We all know that The United States has been a country built on Biblical foundations,and we have let others little by little break that down or cover it.I think we need a revival,and fast.If not, I truly fear Americas future.
We Christian also carry some of the blame,cause many(I include myself)Just go to church,and don't live their lives as the chosen people we are to spread light in this dark world.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:25 pm

KhakiBlueSocks (post: 1199794) wrote:[font="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="4"][color="RoyalBlue"]This is really getting depressing. Just last week, a Technical College in Baton Rouge had a school shooting. A girl (Student) went into the school, shot two others, then shot herself.

Almost makes you wanna crawl in your bed and pull the covers over your head.[/color][/SIZE][/font]


I read about that too.. I'm sorry to hear that!

it's been a really scary week!
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Postby Nate » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:26 pm

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Caring too much for the video game industry, perhaps? Maybe it's just me.

When has it ever been okay to let a person lie about something just because people died?
and you know I trust that network more than a few others ^^]
I'm aware of this, but sorry, I can't trust a network who puts on an attorney who has just been to trial for conduct unbecoming his profession (and may soon be permanently disbarred), who constantly lies about everything in cases like this, and calls him a "school shooting expert." It was also nice of Fox News to blame video games when we don't even KNOW if this guy played video games. Yeah, "fair and balanced" my face.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:30 pm

Amzi Live (post: 1199807) wrote:We all know that The United States has been a country built on Biblical foundations,

Actually, the current Unites States government was rooted in secular ideals, trying to escape the religious politics of Europe. Christian population (largely) and Christian founders (Well, some of them), but a religiously indifferent system by design.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:39 pm

Guys...
can we PLEASE NOT DEBATE?! Come on... this is stupid, who cares what people think?
If you have a disagreement...TAKE IT PM.

seriously, this thread should be about the victims of the shootings...not a thread to start arguments about what our country was, or was not founded on.
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Postby Amzi Live » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:41 pm

I can't argue with that I guess.Still,My main argument stands.This would even place more of the blame on Christians,if not all. Heh!I'm sorry if I made it look like an debate or something.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:45 pm

Amzi Live (post: 1199828) wrote:I can't argue with that I guess.Still,My main argument stands.This would even place more of the blame on Christians,if not all.

I never knocked your main argument, just that opening bit.
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Postby Amzi Live » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:59 pm

Fish and Chips (post: 1199833) wrote:I never knocked your main argument, just that opening bit.

That's ok dude,Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Postby Ingemar » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:01 pm

Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1199801) wrote:I'm curious as to how much of a concern this is to you.

Caring too much for the video game industry, perhaps? Maybe it's just me.


Next time another school shooting occurs, I think my first reply should be "How long before Nate posts another curt reply predicting Jack Thompson blaming video games?"

Or perhaps, "How long before ChristianKitsune/someone else mentions America's spiritual foundations sending Nate into vapors and posting image macros and heaving upside and downside about our secular origins?"

Or how about, "How long before people ignore what actually happened and point fingers at totally absurd red herrings?"

For that last one, I guess "not too long."
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Postby Sohma » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:10 pm

God bless these students families! I will be praying for them and all effected by this.
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Postby KeybladeWarrior » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:53 pm

This is terrible, my prayers go out to the victims and gunman's families.
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Postby Maledicte » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:27 pm

For God's sake, just PRAY for the people out there. Forget about videogames or whoever wrote the Constitution. People are dead out there, we should at least do SOMETHING for their loved ones.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:30 pm

Nate (post: 1199814) wrote:When has it ever been okay to let a person lie about something just because people died?

I tend to think there's a difference between pointing our liars, and simply caring too much about a certain subject.

Nobody takes Jack Thompson seriously anyway.
SirThinks2Much (post: 1199877) wrote:For God's sake, just PRAY for the people out there. Forget about videogames or whoever wrote the Constitution. People are dead out there, we should at least do SOMETHING for them.

I most definitely side with what you say.
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Postby K. Ayato » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:34 pm

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Postby Sohma » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:34 pm

SirThinks2Much (post: 1199877) wrote:For God's sake, just PRAY for the people out there. Forget about videogames or whoever wrote the Constitution. People are dead out there, we should at least do SOMETHING for them.


Thank you so much! -bow- I agree compleatly.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:11 am

Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1199879) wrote:I most definitely side with what you say.

After she said it.

Gah, I never know what to say in these threads. It pains me that these sort of headlines have become so commonplace that I've run out of anything new to say. Two days after the tragedy, and how many people who weren't directly affected by this are losing sleep over it? I know this is a broken world, but things like this just shouldn't happen.
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Postby rocklobster » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:44 am

I agree. Don't schools have security? How can someone even get a gun past them?
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