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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:13 pm

these wonderful bunch of people.:) Who think that it's safe to float a power cord with flipflops in a pool. Alcohol and electricity do not mix. (actually i do find it slightly hilarious :sweat:)
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Postby Mithrandir » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:20 pm

That has GOT to be a put-on...
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:23 pm

Mithrandir (post: 1197005) wrote:That has GOT to be a put-on...


Those were my thoughts pretty much. like...off camera it's not plugged in or something. however...i feel bad if it isn't.
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Postby Mithrandir » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:25 pm

If you felt any other way, I would be...

(you know it was coming)

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(are you sure you want to read it?)

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SHOCKED!

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Postby EricTheFred » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:26 pm

bakura_fan (post: 1197008) wrote:Those were my thoughts pretty much. like...off camera it's not plugged in or something. however...i feel bad if it isn't.


Yeah, I note there doesn't seem to actually be anything cooking on the electric grill that's 'plugged in'... and the goofy grin on the guy center camera looks a little like he's having trouble keeping it from turning into a knowing smirk.
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Postby meboeck » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:29 pm

Mithrandir (post: 1197009) wrote:If you felt any other way, I would be...

(you know it was coming)

...

(are you sure you want to read it?)

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SHOCKED!

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(You can't say I didn't warn you)


Wow, your humor is so much like my dad's. Good thing I like awful puns. XD
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Postby ~darkelfgirl~ » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:59 pm

They win by a landslide.
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Postby LadyRushia » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:13 pm

I see this as a picture the mods could use when they lock threads, XD.
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Postby Stephen » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:23 pm

I need to save that pic. That rules. XD
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Postby Kairi » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:05 pm

Sadly... I could see my brother and his friend doing something like that. XD; And they wouldn't even have to be drunk!
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Postby Mithrandir » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:11 pm

ShatterheartArk (post: 1197030) wrote:I need to save that pic. That rules. XD


Be sure to add the caption:

"I'm SHOCKED you would do that!"
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Postby AsianBlossom » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:34 pm

I'm stunned and amused at the same time. Where do people come up with these things? Now, as I'm learning in my oceanography class, if that water is pure (which I doubt) it won't conduct electricity. HOWEVER, if there are other things in the water (and I'm sure there are, like minerals and whatnot) then the water will conduct electricity and they will get shocked if that is plugged into anything.

So, who's going to present them the Idiot(s) of the Year trophy? XD

(And yeah, save that pic and caption it; it'd be great for thread locking, like you guys suggested. Kind of like the infamous "LOLTruck" :D)
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:38 pm

[quote="AsianBlossom (post: 1197055)"]I'm stunned and amused at the same time. Where do people come up with these things? Now, as I'm learning in my oceanography class, if that water is pure (which I doubt) it won't conduct electricity. HOWEVER, if there are other things in the water (and I'm sure there are, like minerals and whatnot) then the water will conduct electricity and they will get shocked if that is plugged into anything.

So, who's going to present them the Idiot(s) of the Year trophy? XD

(And yeah, save that pic and caption it]

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Postby AsianBlossom » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:45 pm

Nah, it was in another thread. It's quite funny, actually. You have the front part of a truck, with its wheels and tires running like feet, and it has a cape blowing in the breeze while it runs down the highway. In fact, I've attached it here. Enjoy!
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:33 pm

AsianBlossom (post: 1197060) wrote:Nah, it was in another thread. It's quite funny, actually. You have the front part of a truck, with its wheels and tires running like feet, and it has a cape blowing in the breeze while it runs down the highway. In fact, I've attached it here. Enjoy!


XD that's too much! lol!!
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Postby Dante » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:40 pm

I'm stunned and amused at the same time. Where do people come up with these things? Now, as I'm learning in my oceanography class, if that water is pure (which I doubt) it won't conduct electricity. HOWEVER, if there are other things in the water (and I'm sure there are, like minerals and whatnot) then the water will conduct electricity and they will get shocked if that is plugged into anything.


They decided to spend a lot of money on pool water and filled the pool up with Dasani... which for some frightening reason lack electrolytes and does NOT conduct electricity... its essentially like drinking DI water... with caffeine (or so it is rumored).

EDIT: Ironically however, I wonder if having a surge protector might actually be keeping them safe... if the the thing trips when its supposed to, dropping a bucket of water on it should cause it to cut the power... so it might end up cutting the power before a truly lethal does could be applied... so they'll probobly just get a good zap... enough to make them get a good zap... of course, this is just only a possibility, I do not recomend trying this at home.
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Postby mechana2015 » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:10 am

Pascal (post: 1197077) wrote:EDIT: Ironically however, I wonder if having a surge protector might actually be keeping them safe... if the the thing trips when its supposed to, dropping a bucket of water on it should cause it to cut the power... so it might end up cutting the power before a truly lethal does could be applied... so they'll probobly just get a good zap... enough to make them get a good zap... of course, this is just only a possibility, I do not recomend trying this at home.


I've seen a power strip get overloaded and... well... it exploded rather violently, and would probably cause quite a lot of damage electrically if submerged. The other issue would be whether or not the breaker would be bypassed by the water flowing through the device and continue conducting delivering an extended shock. Surge protectors are designed to protect against a burst or overdraw of power, not submersion.
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Postby Warrior4Christ » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:47 am

mechana2015 (post: 1197130) wrote:I've seen a power strip get overloaded and... well... it exploded rather violently, and would probably cause quite a lot of damage electrically if submerged. The other issue would be whether or not the breaker would be bypassed by the water flowing through the device and continue conducting delivering an extended shock. Surge protectors are designed to protect against a burst or overdraw of power, not submersion.

I think he was meaning an electrical safety switch, rather than a surge protector, which would be more likely to protect against water or electrical shorting disasters.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:30 am

O_O;;

Dude...that's just stupid. >_>

Like...REALLY stupid.

but it would be an enlightening and electrifying experience... ^^;
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Postby termyt » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:29 am

I would not depend on a surge protector to stop a leath dose of electricity from getting through. If the connection was GFI'ed, perhaps, but I still wouldn't trust it.

It kind of reminds me of the attached picture. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this picture?
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Postby EricTheFred » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:11 am

I guess the Electrical Engineer has to weigh in on this, even though (as I've already stated) I'm convinced these guys staged this as a joke. Probably to freak out their wives or something.

The surge protector is not protecting them. During the catastrophic event that is one leaky sandal away from occuring, the unprotected side is in the water.

GFI might save them. It takes a moment to kick in, which with luck will be a short enough moment they will only be seriously injured. However, outdoor sockets have not always had GFI on them. If the house is '70s vintage or older, they're toast, as they only have a standard circuit breaker between them and the supply.

Tap water typically has chlorine and flourine, plus a few copper ions for good measure. It is an excellent conductor. Not in the same league as copper or aluminum, but more than good enough for 110Vx15A.
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Postby EricTheFred » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:13 am

termyt (post: 1197143) wrote:I would not depend on a surge protector to stop a leath dose of electricity from getting through. If the connection was GFI'ed, perhaps, but I still wouldn't trust it.

It kind of reminds me of the attached picture. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this picture?


Yeah, those four guys in yellow suits are real wimps, aren't they?
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Postby Righteousss » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:49 pm

a redneck pool party :D
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Postby KhakiBlueSocks » Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:42 pm

One wonders if this is a current picture...

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Postby mechana2015 » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:15 pm

EricTheFred (post: 1197162) wrote:Tap water typically has chlorine and flourine, plus a few copper ions for good measure. It is an excellent conductor. Not in the same league as copper or aluminum, but more than good enough for 110Vx15A.


Righteousss wrote: a redneck pool party :D


Actually.

I just realized that this is in europe (the power plugs are a foreign design).

Those are not rednecks in the conventional sense.

That voltage is 220.
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Postby EricTheFred » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:09 pm

mechana2015 (post: 1197290) wrote:Actually.

I just realized that this is in europe (the power plugs are a foreign design).

Those are not rednecks in the conventional sense.

That voltage is 220.


I'm embarrassed to admit I didn't notice that. You're absolutely right.

That also makes the possibility of no GFI circuit even stronger (not as common there, not part of the building code in all locations, and they may not even have an outdoor socket at all. It isn't uncommon to see someone running a power cord out from an interior socket through a door or window, and indoor sockets are usually not GFI except in bathrooms and kitchens.)

I still don't trust the grin on the guy in the pool. This is a setup.
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Postby Dante » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:42 pm

That voltage is 220.


Remember folks, its not the voltage... but the CURRENT that kills :P... ok so maybe its a little bit of both.

P = I * V

Where I and V are RMS voltages or root mean square voltages, when dealing with AC.
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Postby termyt » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:31 am

There's the other side of the equation. What if it's a DC connection? Not as dangerous then.

No doubt it's a set up, in my mind.
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Postby mechana2015 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:41 am

Pascal (post: 1197324) wrote:
That voltage is 220.


Remember folks, its not the voltage... but the CURRENT that kills :P... ok so maybe its a little bit of both.

P = I * V

Where I and V are RMS voltages or root mean square voltages, when dealing with AC.


Amperage would still be far, far, far over the killing point, which is less than one amp. (As Eric noted, standard wall current is 15 Amps, and GFI application is much less likely.)

EDIT:
16 mA Maximum current an average man can grasp and "let go"
20 mA Paralysis of respiratory muscles
100 mA Ventricular fibrillation threshold
2 Amps Cardiac standstill and internal organ damage

EDIT... Still 13 amps on top of that, plus or minus the cycle variation on a standard wall circuit in europe.

As for Termyt, DC connections are VERY rare for wall current, even in europe. Some travel sites even discount their existence to mere myth, unless thats attached to some sort of car charger at the other end.

I think its a setup as well... or rather I hope so.
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Postby Debitt » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:24 am

Oh gosh, the LOLTRUCK made its way over here? What as has science wrought?! XD;

That picture is...it's one of a kind. :lol:
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