Concerning reptiles and the Bible...

my last fm profile! · Postby **rocklobster** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:04 pm

If dragons are evil, then I'm in big trouble. I'd hate to think I shouldn't read books like Eragon.

Postby **Nate** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:40 am

rocklobster wrote:I'd hate to think I shouldn't read books like Eragon.

No one should read Eragon, not because it has dragons, but because it's terrible.

Postby **Warrior 4 Jesus** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:27 am

That's very true, Eragon is a travesty of fantasy.

Postby **Kat Walker** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:03 am

Revelation is supposed to be symbolic (obviously), and strange creatures are used to symbolize churches, kingdoms, nations, etc. It's not just reptiles that are used in prophecy - there are lions, leopards, birds, lambs, bears, even freaky-looking monsters that don't actually exist. So... hating snakes and reptiles on that accord is pretty silly, since they are hardly the only animals that symbolize evil in the Bible. Using strong, dangerous, fearsome creatures to convey such ideas make sense. I mean, can you imagine the antichrist being represented by a cute little kitten? XD

Anyway, I don't think it's very Christian to hate God's creation and cause it needless suffering. If an animal is dangerous, we should respectfully keep our distance, but we shouldn't consider it "evil". Animals are suffering the effects of a cursed world because of our sin, remember.

Postby **Technomancer** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:25 am

Warrior 4 Jesus (post: 1193395) wrote:That's very true, Eragon is a travesty of fantasy.

I once dared my flatmate to rent the movie...Unfortunately, he did.

Postby **Warrior 4 Jesus** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:32 pm

Technomancer, I feel sorry for you mate. Must have caused you endless sleepless nights and heartache.

Website · Postby **bakura_fan** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:37 pm

For the people who say that reptiles are evil ask them why God decided to turn Aaron's rod into one for pharaoh *it was aaron right?* and why the people needed to look upon a snake on a raised rod to cure them of the snake venom? *if I am innacurate please let me know. I havn't read those stories in years*

Postby **Kanerou** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:53 pm

Nate (post: 1193385) wrote:No one should read Eragon, not because it has dragons, but because it's terrible.

Hey, I liked that book. Granted, it was cliched, and one knows the end (partially) from the beginning. And in Paolini's defense, he had nothing to do with the movie. I wonder if Eldest is better.

I've long liked dragons. Yes, the name can be traced back to "snake"; in fact, in the Bible, a dragon is a 'glorified' snake (check the concordance). Anyway, I think they're fascinating creatures. And I don't remember the Bible ever condemning reptiles.

Postby **Warrior 4 Jesus** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:59 pm

The dragon is not a glorified snake, it's more likely a dinosaur.
And the Garden of Eden contained an evil 'serpent', which is often mistaken for snake. It's more likely akin to a large lizard (but we don't know for sure).

Postby **Stephen** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:11 pm

Eragon!?!?!? That was a Uwe Boll film right? XD

Postby **Warrior 4 Jesus** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:17 pm

It had the quality of a Uwe Boll film but he didn't direct it. Sure seemed like it though (but unlike his other movies, the source material wouldn't have helped one iota).

Postby **Technomancer** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:36 am

The Uwe Boll films that I've seen at least had better dialogue. Also Silent Hill was kind of cool since it was partly shot in my town (a couple of local landmarks figure prominently).

Postby **Stephen** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:35 am

I am sorry Techno, but defending Uwe Boll is a ban-worthy offense. Keep that in mind. >.<

Postby **Technomancer** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:02 am

Oh, I'm not defending him; his movies stink. I'm just saying that whoever made Eragon is worse.

Postby **Kat Walker** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:55 pm

YES.

Although my friends and I had a lot of fun MST3k-ing the Eragon movie. That's the only entertainment value it has. :]

Postby **Nate** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:39 pm

If you go to Rifftrax they have one for Eragon. I'm almost considering buying the DVD just for the Rifftrax of it.

Postby **Mithrandir** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:49 pm

Kat Walker (post: 1194285) wrote:Although my friends and I had a lot of fun MST3k-ing the Eragon movie. That's the only entertainment value it has. :]

While I don't know that I would go quite THAT far, it certainly sounds like it would be a great deal of fun.

Postby **CrimsonRyu17** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:09 pm

I just noticed this thread and have a tiny bit to say.

Is Jesus actually a dumb little idiotic animal? He is called the Lamb of God, and we all know how stupid sheep are.

Simply put, no. It's symbolism. Jesus was called the Lamb of God because he was the sacrifice, and lambs were usually sacrificed during those times.

As for Satan being called the Red Dragon, look back in history and try to find a creature that is more feared and more dangerous than a dragon. It's symbolism. You're not going to call Satan the Pink Poodle, for goodness sake.

Does that mean lambs are holy because Jesus is called one? Absolutely not. I don't see any glowing sheep anywhere.

Same for dragons. They're not evil satans, they're creatures.

* Also, I personally find the excuse of "God made them" to be illogical. God made Satan and demons as well and although yes, they were perfect when they were first created, they are evil in the end.

Postby **Stephen** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:28 pm

What a wonderful spot to stop this thread. Hooray.

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