Will the world's near toxic level obsession with perverseness never cease?

[Alexander]

True true. I almost wonder if the better message wouldn't be to have sex after marriage, but instead, "Build a true relationship with your spouse". That sad part is, you can't give advice on how to do it correctly. XD

[Etoh*the*Greato]

Edit: Edited for realizing I was about to start a theological debate

>.> <.< Iambatman! *poof*

[Roy Mustang]

I feel there is nothing wrong about talking about sex as long as the people can deal with it and its within God's law.

I think parents need to talk to their children (young teen) about sex, but only at the right age that the parent knows that the young teen is okay with it.

When they do that, I feel that they should teach them both abstinence and safe sex.


The reason why I say this and you have to be in my shoes to really understand why I feel that way.

But I'm virgin and believe in sex after marriage. But I have AIDS from getting bad blood from my heart surgery, when I was a baby. I have seen both the caring and ugly of this.

I have only dated a few times in my life and I'm upfront with the person about what I have. Mostly because, I want them to know, that its not going to be to date a person like me and if they can handle it.

But there are people out there that are not like this and some are bitter at the world for getting something this or any other STD.

The sad thing is, they will take it on people with sex mostly and I feel that now a days, all of us have to be safe then sorry, when it comes to dating and sex.

You never know the person that you marry could have something and never tell you and that's is one sad thing about this world.

[color="Red"][font="Book Antiqua"]Col. Roy Mustang[/font][/color]

[AsianBlossom]

Though that's usually why they require blood tests before marriage...to make sure you're not carrying anything you could infect your spouse with.

[Roy Mustang]

Though that's usually why they require blood tests before marriage...to make sure you're not carrying anything you could infect your spouse with.

Sorry, but only a few states require a blood test these days or a blood test and physical examination before marriage. There are only five states that require a blood test, before marriage.

[color="Red"][font="Book Antiqua"]Col. Roy Mustang[/font][/color]

[Etoh*the*Greato]

In another similar, yet equally important department, the church is doing its part. Many churches require the couple to go through a minor marriage counseling program which can be anything from fluff to utterly rigorous before allowing them to marry in that church. I like this idea very much. I'd almost say I ought to become licensed for it.

[AsianBlossom]

That'd be kind of cool; helping out soon-to-be-married couples. I hope that all works out if you want to do that.

[Etoh*the*Greato]

Well, I'm headed in to the clergy anyway. It just seems like a good study to look in to.

[AsianBlossom]

As a priest-friend of mine always says, "Go for it."

[Raiden no Kishi]

As a priest-friend of mine always says, "Go for it."

This is off-topic, but that quote is a RIOT out of context. XD

.rai//

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Etoh, I've hear pre-marriage counselling is very helpful and well worth the effort. If it helps sustain your marriage for longer, why wouldn't you do it?
If I ever get married (which I hope I do) then pre-marriage counselling would be at the fore-front of priorities.

[AsianBlossom]

This is off-topic, but that quote is a RIOT out of context. XD

.rai//

*doesn't really get it so is claiming innocence...remember, if that's slang for something, I don't know all of it*

EDIT: O_o Stupid slang distorting and perverting our modern speech so we can't say anything without sexual connotation!!!! Should I edit that?

[Jon Clement]

Well, Alexander, I'm sorry you had such an unpleasant experience. A lot of guys aren't like that. These ones were just jerks...

Now, for a bit of a rant. I just don't get why Jesus makes such a big deal out of looking at a woman. If I fantasize about a woman, that doesn't mean I see her as a peace of meat. I just feel I might like to be in a relationship with her and do stuff with her. I don't see how just looking hurts anyone or anything.

As for marriage, I'm sorry to be offensive, but I have to say... It REALLY pisses me off to see Christian's talking about how bad marriage is getting and worrying if it's going to be around in 50 years. Tell me, why does it matter? You don't believe marriage exists in heaven. You don't believe sex exists in heaven. You believe we're all just on this happy-drug in heaven (I detest such a concept) So, why bother worrying about marriage? If sex is only a temporal thing, then why not just enjoy it while we still can? I find it cruel and mean that a God would create sex and then outright deny some people to ever have it at all. I don't understand why he created it and that's an issue that weakened my faith in Christianity to the point of collapse. It really upsets me to think of a world without sex.

People make a big deal about it for obvious reasons. It feels good. We want to experience that ecstasy called sex. We want to be loved in that way. I find it really sad and angering that people say sexual urges are from Satan. If there's no sex in heaven, then I really don't see what the point of sex is in the first place. And I also don't see why God had to go and create AIDS as "Punishment for sexual immorality" and then says those sexual laws were made to protect us from AIDS. So, why the AIDS? Sorry for seeming rude, but... That's just how I feel...

Once again, I apologize for your experience.

[Stephen]

So you reject warnings Jon? Congrats. You just earned strike 2.

[Jon Clement]

Well, SORRY for thinking for myself and noticing hypocrisy!

[Stephen]

Yes. Because thinking for yourself means breaking the sites rules. Thinking for yourself means attacking the views of a Christian webforum because your 17 year old mind thinks that makes you cool. If you refuse to follow the sites rules, leave. If you continue to break the sites rules, I will help you with that. This is your *LAST* warning.

[Jon Clement]

Well, can I honestly help it? After being used by politics for so long and then being tosses aside like trash for asking for a little bit in return, how do you expect me to feel?

[Stephen]

I could really care less what personal issues you are using as a crutch. You will follow this sites rules, or you will leave. So I would strongly suggest you go read the sites FAQ.