Tattoos?

[Nate]

Another thing that's VERY true is "tattoo addiction".

Yes, they are very addictive. I still want more. XP Three is not enough!

It sure does look like a lot of work though, proper care, leaving it out of the sun to prevent fading, constantly supplying moisturizer on top...

It is indeed a lot of work, but it's worth it, in my opinion. Especially if you get something that's very near and dear to your heart. I'd like to get something with Job 38:4 tattooed on me. It's a little obscure as to why that verse means a lot to me, and I won't go into it here, but yeah, I'd carry that on my body all my life. XD

EDIT:

He said it quote "hurt like a mug" and he maintained a deathgrip on his brother's hand the whole time.

Back tattoos are the WORST. XD;; I could never get a back tattoo because they pretty much are the most painful kind you can get.

[Tenshi no Ai]

It is indeed a lot of work, but it's worth it, in my opinion. Especially if you get something that's very near and dear to your heart.

Tis true. I know many just go for the 'cool' factor of it, classic designs, and of course, for pretty art. I mean, not every Asian dragon has to have a meaning to a person, it's just a classic design that looks awsome^^

Still, with my phoenix idea it holds tons of meaning, along with the full-back wings idea, but I'm just being VERY picky with it >_< I see tons of neat designs and just not sure what to choose for myself since I look and think "this one looks cool... I REALLY like that one... oh that is SO neat!" and just plain indecisive^^ The wings though, would probably be secondary. I can't imagine how much cash I would have to fork over for that, not to mention HOURS of sessions to work on it :/ They do say get something small FIRST, (to see how it feels to get used to it and all, so you don't have an agonizing first go) even though it might be hard if someone's one and only design is to be large-scale (fortunately for me, I'd want the phoenix first... still no clue where to put it since it can't go on my back if I'm to have wings there :/) *sigh*... decisions, decisions^^

[Slater]

I'm gonna stick with what the Bible says... Christians shouldn't get tattoos since our bodies are the temple of the Lord.

Like some people said, what you get tattooed on yourself might not be wanted later on. Nobody knows the future, nobody knows what they won't want 10, 15, 20 years from some point in their life.

But it goes beyond that, too. I've heard the whole "it's not graphiti, it's a mural" argument 1000 times back in High School theological debates. That's true. I've seen some stunning images in tattoos, it really can make a fine artistic medium.
But the problem with it is that it does damage your body. First, the inks start to fade and after about 12 years, a once-beautiful tattoo becomes what looks like a hideous bruise. Sure, you can get the color touched up, and it looks good as new, but the skin that it's painted on eventually turns into saggy, mushy stuff... Permanently damaging the body in that area.

A tattoo's charm does last for a few years, but after that, it's all downhill. Leave the murals to more traditional art media, it's quite appreciated there still.

[Tenshi no Ai]

First, the inks start to fade and after about 12 years, a once-beautiful tattoo becomes what looks like a hideous bruise. Sure, you can get the color touched up, and it looks good as new, but the skin that it's painted on eventually turns into saggy, mushy stuff...

Well, of course skin will sag^^ That's a little inevitable for anyone. Still, I think with proper care that they CAN last for quite a while. Nice to enjoy them when they're at their peak of vibrant colouring, anyhow^^ Even for old people, I can see them looking down the road 50 years later, looking at a tattoo and remembering what meaning it holds for them (not to mention, "the good ol' days"^^).

[Stephen]

I'm gonna stick with what the Bible says

Can people stop saying things like that? You translate vague scriptures the way you do, others there way. To say it like that, implies you think you know the Bible better than anyone else. If this thread turns into a debate, it is because of people unable to admit that somthing is there opinion.

[Cognitive Gear]

But the problem with it is that it does damage your body. First, the inks start to fade and after about 12 years, a once-beautiful tattoo becomes what looks like a hideous bruise. Sure, you can get the color touched up, and it looks good as new, but the skin that it's painted on eventually turns into saggy, mushy stuff... Permanently damaging the body in that area.

I have never heard of tattoos cause permanent damage to the skin. I'm currently searching for it, and I've found the normal info about infections and allergic reactions, but I can't find anything about this. I would think that if something so serious happened that you would hear about it more often. Got a link to any studies about this?

[Radical Dreamer]

Another thing that's VERY true is "tattoo addiction". A friend got one tattoo and now he's hooked and has two and wants more. My boyfriend, who's always wanted them, talked to him about it and got 1, then 2, and now turned that second one into a forearm sleeve. Looks like a very nice piece of art though^^

This part, I never understood. XD How are tattoos so addicting? It just never made any sense to me. XD

[Fish and Chips]

"I'm going to get a tatoo over my entire body of me, only taller." - Steven Wright

[Mr. SmartyPants]

This part, I never understood. XD How are tattoos so addicting? It just never made any sense to me. XD

I'd imagine after getting one, the user would then become less receptive and sensitized to the pain (also depending where the Tattoo shall be). I also imagine that after getting one tattoo of <this design>, they'd then want another tattoo of <that design>. Seeing as they already got one, a couple more couldn't hurt.

But yeah, they look absolutely disgusting. XD

[Tenshi no Ai]

This part, I never understood. XD How are tattoos so addicting? It just never made any sense to me. XD

Well, I think firstly that it just comes as amazing as you'd expect it, that you would want to gain more, because there's TONS of amazing designs. Also, I heard it can be considered an almost... therapeutic experience. After getting it done, I've heard it UPS a person self-consciousness of the body part it was done on. Not that it "covers it up" really, but... well, I guess it's hard to say from experience^^ Rather than looking done upon small arms say, you actually WANT to look at them because of the amazing art that they now bear... I guess^^ So with that good feeling, the addiction starts... if I've explained it there well enough^^ maybe not for everyone, of course, but for some people this is so.

[Gabriel 9.0]

Here is a interesting link.

http://www.new-life.net/faq022.htm

[Mr. SmartyPants]

And, on an administrative note, everyone please remember Theological debate=very no. Let's please keep this from being a WWF match with people hitting other people over the head with steel plated Bibles instead of chairs.

It seems lot of you guys on this thread don't know how to read.

[Nate]

Here is a interesting link.

http://www.new-life.net/faq022.htm

Wow, they perverted the words of the Bible to fit their skewed view. How very shady of them. Here's what the article says:

The body is meant for the Lord" 1 Corinthians 6:13.

Here's what 1 Corinthians 6:13 ACTUALLY says:

"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

Oh look, like I said before, the verse is talking about sexually immorality, NOT tattoos.

Can people stop taking verses out of context now? It would be really awesome.

[ADXC]

Yep, are bodies are not made to be decorated as we see fit. We are not our own. God owns us. And we were made in God's image. Those are the facts.
But yeah, I guess he was taking scripture out of context.

[Gabriel 9.0]

I think what they were implying is how God tells us that our bodies are a temple of his.

Which is true and the Bible does say not to get Tattoos. And I'll be sticking on what God has to say. As he tells us to follow his Ten Commandments and Jesus's Testimony.

[Nate]

Which is true and the Bible does say not to get Tattoos. And I'll be sticking on what God has to say.

Okay, let me pull up that verse, shall I?

Leviticus 19:

'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

OH CRAP. I guess you've shaved and gotten a haircut? That's a sin against God.

'Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the LORD.

OH CRAP. You haven't stood up every single time an old person walks by, have you? That's a sin against God.

'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

OH CRAP. You've probably worn a poly-cotton blend shirt. That's a sin against God.

All that is in Leviticus 19. If you follow ONE part of the law, follow ALL of it. However, those are ritualistic laws that we don't have to follow anymore.

So if you're saying tattooing is a sin, so is shaving, and so is getting a haircut. Don't try and pull this "The Bible says so" bull on me, buddy. Instead of spouting out what your parents and church brainwash you into saying, why don't you actually try READING your Bible?

[Gabriel 9.0]

Okay, let me pull up that verse, shall I?

Leviticus 19:

'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

OH CRAP. I guess you've shaved and gotten a haircut? That's a sin against God.

'Rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the LORD.

OH CRAP. You haven't stood up every single time an old person walks by, have you? That's a sin against God.

'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

OH CRAP. You've probably worn a poly-cotton blend shirt. That's a sin against God.

All that is in Leviticus 19. If you follow ONE part of the law, follow ALL of it. However, those are ritualistic laws that we don't have to follow anymore.

So if you're saying tattooing is a sin, so is shaving, and so is getting a haircut. Don't try and pull this "The Bible says so" bull on me, buddy. Instead of spouting out what your parents and church brainwash you into saying, why don't you actually try READING your Bible?

Dude there is no need to get defensive. Indeed some of them are ceremonial laws that are now done away with, however God says that your body is a temple of God. And given that Tattoos are known to breed tons of diseases. I will not be getting any real tattoos placed on my skin.

[Tenshi no Ai]

And given that Tattoos are known to breed tons of diseases.

I do believe that is only if you go to a place that doesn't properly sterilize their needles... There IS a right way and a wrong way. Technically, even I'm susceptible for such things since I got my ears pierced with a gun, which have in recent times been known to be quite bad for you. Still alive though^^

[Mr. SmartyPants]

And given that Tattoos are known to breed tons of diseases.

So I guess pooping is bad too.

[Nate]

Dude there is no need to get defensive.

Apparently there IS a need to get defensive because all these people are saying tattoos are a sin. Uh, NO, they're NOT. The verses that talk about your body being a temple are in reference to SEXUAL SINS. What part of "This talks about sex and not tattoos" can people not comprehend?

Indeed some of them are ceremonial laws that are now done away with, however God says that your body is a temple of God.

Yes, it says your body is a temple of God, so do not sin sexually against it. What does this have to do with tattoos? Absolutely nothing.

And the tattoo thing IS a ceremonial law, same as the haircut, shaving, clothing, and food regulations.

And given that Tattoos are known to breed tons of diseases.

Uh, I have three and haven't had any diseases. Maybe if you get a tattoo in a back alley it'll give you a disease, but EVERY reputable tattoo place uses extremely sterilized needles and there is little if any risk of infection.

You have a higher chance of getting a disease from Taco Bell than a tattoo parlor, but you probably don't avoid that, huh?

I will not be getting any real tattoos placed on my skin.

That's fine. You don't have to get a tattoo. No one's forcing you, and if you don't want one, say, "I personally would not like to get a tattoo." But don't sit there and say "The Bible says tattoos are wrong" because it DOESN'T, unless you also say haircuts and shaves are sinful.

[Gabriel 9.0]

I do believe that is only if you go to a place that doesn't properly sterilize their needles... There IS a right way and a wrong way. Technically, even I'm susceptible for such things since I got my ears pierced with a gun, which have in recent times been known to be quite bad for you.

Flesh Eating Disease is a very common factor in tattoo places, clean or unclean. Its starts out just like the Flu too. And most of its symptoms are like the Flu as well.
Don't take my word for it, study it.

Yes, it says your body is a temple of God, so do not sin sexually against it. What does this have to do with tattoos? Absolutely nothing.

It doesn't just refer to sexual immorality, it also refers to anything else that is bad for your body. And Revelations 18:2 does talk about how some food is still wrong.

That's fine. You don't have to get a tattoo. No one's forcing you, and if you don't want one, say, "I personally would not like to get a tattoo." But don't sit there and say "The Bible says tattoos are wrong" because it DOESN'T, unless you also say haircuts and shaves are sinful.

I never said getting a tattoo is sinful. I just said God speaks out against it.

[Tenshi no Ai]

Fleash Eating Disease is a very common factor in tattoo places, clean or unclean. Its starts out just like the Flu too. And most of its symptoms are like the Flu as well.
Don't take my word for it, study it.

Just read on a bit of a study off a site (which seems quite AGAINST tattoos in itself), and technically it is just the same as walking around with ANY form of open wound. I get cat scratches and paper cuts all the time, so I'm just as vulnerable as to getting a tattoo. Hep C this, AIDS that, yeah you can pick them up ANYWHERE from ANY form of slightly wounded skin.

[Nate]

Thank you for saving me the trouble, Carla.

Propaganda is a nasty little bug, it loves to skew reality.

[Cognitive Gear]

Fleash Eating Disease is a very common factor in tattoo places, clean or unclean. Its starts out just like the Flu too. And most of its symptoms are like the Flu as well.
Don't take my word for it, study it.

You know you can get some downright deadly diseases from eating food, too. Some of them are very common, others are rare. Most can be avoided through proper care and preparation. Same applies here.

Don't take my word for it, study it.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Fleash Eating Disease is a very common factor in tattoo places, clean or unclean. Its starts out just like the Flu too. And most of its symptoms are like the Flu as well.
Don't take my word for it, study it.

I looked it up. Most cases of Flesh Eating Disease only occurred at backstreet shady tattoo parlors, not reputable ones.

You also have to take into account that everything has some sort of risk. Driving a car, riding an airplane, swimming in the ocean, eating at a restaurant, etc. They all have some risk to it. You probably have a higher chance of dying in a car crash then acquiring Flesh Eating Disease at a tattoo parlor.

I never said getting a tattoo is sinful. I just said God speaks out against it.

If God speaks against you doing something, and you go do it, then that is defined as sin. You just contradicted yourself.

It doesn't just refer to sexual immorality, it also refers to anything else that is bad for your body.

I don't think you can prove this.

And Revelations 18:2 does talk about how some food is still wrong.

With a mighty voice he shouted:
"Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.

...Now you're pulling crap out of your behind.

[Gabriel 9.0]

Just read on a bit of a study off a site (which seems quite AGAINST tattoos in itself), and technically it is just the same as walking around with ANY form of open wound. I get cat scratches and paper cuts all the time, so I'm just as vulnerable as to getting a tattoo. Hep C this, AIDS that, yeah you can pick them up ANYWHERE from ANY form of slightly wounded skin.

AIDS you mostly get is from Blood transfusions, fornication or drugs.

Don't take my word for it, study it.

Lol I just said that.

I looked it up. Most cases of Flesh Eating Disease only occurred at backstreet shady tattoo parlors, not reputable ones.

It still a huge risk factor I'm not taking.

If God speaks against you doing something, and you go do it, then that is defined as sin. You just contradicted yourself.

No I didn't, I said God speaks out against getting tattoos.

...Now you're pulling crap out of your behind.

No I'm not, it also refers to unclean food. But on topic, I just strongly feel and agree to what God said about Tattoos.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

It still a huge risk factor I'm not taking.

Did you even read my post or Ikimasu's post? Do you even know how to read?

No I didn't, I said God speaks out against getting tattoos.

If God says something is wrong. That means it's sinful. In fact, I can go as far as to say you are twisting the words of God yet you are telling us what God says and thinks. I can argue that you are the one sinning, seeing as it is you that is twisting Scripture.

But I won't go there.

[Radical Dreamer]

It still a huge risk factor I'm not taking.

I believe that several people have already stated in this thread that NO one is telling you to get a tattoo. The point of contention here is that you think tattoos are sinful and they disagree. If you don't want a tattoo, no one's going to strap you down and burn one into your skin. Just stop saying that people that have them are sinning, because that's been discussed and resolved for the most part already in this thread.

[Nate]

It doesn't just refer to sexual immorality, it also refers to anything else that is bad for your body.

Please explain how you come to that conclusion when the verse states in PLAIN ENGLISH that it's about sex. I mean it's not even obscure. It says the word "sex" like three or four times. It says nothing about anything that isn't sex. All other sins a man commits are OUTSIDE his body, but he who sins SEXUALLY sins against God. Pretty freaking clear it's talking about sex and NOTHING ELSE.

And Revelations 18:2 does talk about how some food is still wrong.

With a mighty voice he shouted:
"Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
She has become a home for demons
and a haunt for every evil spirit,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.

Nope, nothing about food there. Also, it's Revelation. No s. Then again, since you apparently don't read your Bible I wouldn't expect you to get the name of the book right.

This thread is futile and it will be locked when I get back from work. God, and you people wonder WHY atheists give us such a hard time. They see threads like this and laugh. They LAUGH at us because of crap like this. This is so ridiculous, I can't believe I actually took part in it, except that I have three tattoos and it pisses me off when people say it's sinful when they're basing it on THEIR PERSONAL OPINION and not a single verse of Scripture. Oh wait, ONE verse of Scripture that's in a chapter that also says poly-cotton blends and razors are instruments of evil, so that should tell you about how much water that verse holds (none).

[Radical Dreamer]