Swimtrunks

[itch]

[quote="Mr. SmartyPants"]I guess that's how most guys are wired]

Well, yeah. I mean the lusting ones. You have to admit that guys seem more visual than girls. I stare too, sometimes, but I don't wonder what's under the layers. Do you understand?

[itch]

Hey, burlap sacks are HOT.

Burlap sacks, or girls in sacks?

[itch]

While men will always lust after women, the least women can do is do their part and dress modestly. Hey, if someone went around in bra and panties, we'd want them to feel bad about that... Most underwear covers more.

Speaking of bras and immodesty (is that a word?) Bras back in the day were considered slutty. Since only prostitutes wore them to push their tits into a good size cleavage. Now not wearing a bra is considered slutty. Go figure. . .

[Seppuku]

is this a bad time to say i like skinny dipping? XD rofl (by myself that is.)

I agree upon the modest dressing, if your in public.

Personally i don't mind 2 pieces in small groups of friends hanging around the pool.

[teen4truth]

Let me say this flat out: I think bikinis are immodest. Guys are visual, and even if the top completely covers a chick's breasts, shoulders and tummy and back show, giving the 'skin' look.

But I don't think that wearing a bikini means you aren't a Christian or anything like that. Honestly, my top would probably be considered a bikini top. Why did I get it when I hate them? Because I went to Wal-Mart, the mall, and a swim superstore and it was the best I could find. Which goes back to the main point of the thread. Society tells us girls that we HAVE to show it, but we shouldn't have to.

I don't think it's something to get legalistic about, like I don't think we should say 'your bathing suit must have x amount of material or it is sinful.' But personally, as a way to glorify God and protect my Christian brothers, I want to dress modestly...even if it isn't the 'hottest' thing to do.

[Nate]

Hey, no shame in holding an opinion. And if those are your convictions, none of us can fault you for them.

[Shao Feng-Li]

Hey, you might wanna give these guys a chance: http://www.swimmodest.com/

They look pretty cool and cover your thighs (Anything beats going around almost naked...)

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Let me say this flat out: I think bikinis are immodest.

I like to wear bikinis... am I immodest?

[Shao Feng-Li]

No, gross.

[AsianBlossom]

O.O

Okay, moving on...

I only wear bikinis (and not string bikinis either) when I'm in a group of girls or with my family. If I'm in mixed company, then I opt for the one-piece.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

XD I'm only kidding, people.

[Eric]

It really doesn't make a difference to me what girls choose to wear; whether they dress modestly or not (and "modest" depends on your point of view), I still see them for who they are, not what they wear.

In other words, say I go to a beach and see some girl in a g-string bikini that needs help with something (like carrying some coolers or whatever). I wouldn't think to myself, "Wow, what a slut, why would I want anything to do with that? I don't want any of my friends to see me associating with her cause they'll think I'm immoral."...you know, acting all self-righteous and whatnot. I'd just help her out. Plain and simple. Although I'm sure that not many guys would be able to do something like that without having ulterior motives behind it. Fortunately, I'm not like that; I have entirely too much self-control and respect for women.

[Maledicte]

I wear a bikini, mostly for comfort--one-pieces have always tugged on me in uncomfortable ways and nearly impossible for me to take off. But then, I hardly if ever swim in public, so I suppose what I say doesn't matter

Although, before that, I used to wear t-shirts and shorts to go swimming. There's always that as an option.

[Alice]

I have a swimsuit that's one piece, with a sort of skirt coming down over the bottom part. It's quite nice, actually. I think I'd still be a bit uncomfortable wearing it around non-family folks.

I think guy's swim trunks are cute (i.e. I wish they made more of my clothes in those prints), but I haven't tried wearing them to swim.

[SailorDove]

Ok, here's anouther link I found that has nicer looking suits too. I found a few sites in my search for modest swimwear. For several reasons, modesty & the annoying trend of high legs. Which does not look good on one who has long legs. Though even the so called low cut legs are to high for my comfort zone.

http://www.ohanaswimwear.com/index.php

Below's is my personal favorite so far in my searches. But because of cost & since I rarely go to the pool, I'll probably get something from Ohana instead.

http://www.speedousa.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.detail/categoryID/4bbad9d2-6aeb-404f-9ad6-584a3c641d84/productID/fd90bc43-7ba1-4ca2-850f-5aca66746094/

Nice to know I'm not alone in the whole swimwear thing.

[Puguni]

I get what you're saying. I wear a one piece so I can swim without worrying about anything falling off.

But you can't blame guys all the way. Some girls don't wear bikinis because society tells them to. They do it because they want guys looking at them.

And I really haven't seen anybody for being ridiculed for wearing one pieces or boy shorts. I think they're kind of cute anyway. A lot of people think that just because it's a big deal to them that it's a big deal to everyone else in the world. Unless it is something huge, like poverty.

[Nightshade X]

I really don't know much about the origin of bikinis or whatever, but I do know this: women in bikinis are extemely distracting. Let's put it this way... If I were doing something critical to the world's survival (the type of thing that if you made just one mistake, everything dies) and a girl in average shape walked by in a bikini, the world is screwed.

I'm that bad.

No, I'm not exaggerating.

I don't consider girls who wear bikinis to be sluts or anything like that, nor do I consider Christian girls who wear bikinis weak in their faith. I just hate bikinis because they tend to cause my eyes to wander to places where they should not wander. Yeah, I'm a bit of a pervert (actually, more than a bit)... or maybe I'm just a guy. Who could know the real answer to that one? Now, one style I never seem to see is the tankini/board shorts combo. I love seeing that, but nobody wears it...

...but maybe that's because I live in California.

[Shao Feng-Li]

Ok, here's anouther link I found that has nicer looking suits too. I found a few sites in my search for modest swimwear. For several reasons, modesty & the annoying trend of high legs. Which does not look good on one who has long legs. Though even the so called low cut legs are to high for my comfort zone.

http://www.ohanaswimwear.com/index.php

Below's is my personal favorite so far in my searches. But because of cost & since I rarely go to the pool, I'll probably get something from Ohana instead.

http://www.speedousa.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.detail/categoryID/4bbad9d2-6aeb-404f-9ad6-584a3c641d84/productID/fd90bc43-7ba1-4ca2-850f-5aca66746094/

Nice to know I'm not alone in the whole swimwear thing.

Hmm, those are all right. I little too tight. Don't wanna show off the curves you aren't supposed to have, eh heh ._.

[RedMage]

During my recent mission trip to Mexico, the team made a trip to the beach during our return trip stop in San Diego. I must say that I was a tad uncomfortable being around all of my female friends/teammates in their swimsuits, especially one girl who most people would say was the most attractive girl of the bunch who was also wearing the skimpiest bikini.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that a Christian girl who wears a bikini is necessarily weak in her faith. However, I would say that there's a good chance she has a bit of a "blind spot" in that particular area, like a lot of girls do. They either don't really grasp the effect wearing stuff like that has on their Christian brothers and guys in general, or if they do have some idea they don't feel that they should have to change what their wear based on guys' weaknesses...of course, the entire purpose of the bikini in the first place was to prey on guys' weaknesses...

[Mithrandir]

They either don't really grasp the effect wearing stuff like that has on their Christian brothers and guys in general, or if they do have some idea they don't feel that they should have to change what their wear based on guys' weaknesses

I'm going to chime in here. I've hammered the responsibility guys have on numerous occasions. This is, however, a two-way street. Today's lesson is, "Girls: You can help your brothers in Christ become real men of God - and you can do it today with very little effort."

Given the way the male mind is wired, it's nearly impossible for most guys who have grown up in a modest household and environment to "not look" AND feel comfortable around women in these kinds of suits. Let's face it, the media is CONSTANTLY bombarding guys with images of women in skimpy clothing - and every time it's got one purpose: arousal. When was the last time you saw a woman in skimpy clothes in a print add that wasn't "inviting?"

You don't even have to stand up to see it. Just google for anything. Let's google for "new car" right now. I clicked every link on the first page, and at least three of them had adds embedded in the page that featured low-cut shirts on perfectly fit women - all of which were smiling with a little, "wanna ride?" smirk. I'm not saying these adds are "slutty." I'm saying that, when the media uses skin, it tends to use it in ways that promotes a certain feeling.

Now then. Let's say an average guy goes to a pool party at a youth group event. He's just come out of the media rich environment that promotes skin and this feeling. What's the first thing he's going to notice when he walks into the back yard where everyone is? Are the Christian girls there going to be helping him become a mature man of God? Are they going to help him see that women are HUMAN beings - with feelings, desires and hurts? This could very well be the day the light bulb of realization go off, and the young man has the epiphany that, "Yes! These women are God's creations! They deserve to be treated with every respect!"

Avoiding the complete awkwardness of the whole situation (and the segue, for that matter), let's talk about love.

Jesus went out of his way on multiple occasions to tell us to "love each other." A very wise man once defined love as a DOING not as a FEELING. The way to love someone is to do what's best for them, even if it's difficult.

I point this out because my HS sunday school class cannot grasp this fact, and it really worries me. I love those kids a lot, and I die a little bit each time I hear them tell me, "but that's not MY problem." I would like to repeat what Red Mage said here in my own words, and HOPE this clicks for someone out there. Heck, maybe even one of the girls in my HS class reads this. Stranger things have happened, I guess...

Do not buy into the world's hype that you DESERVE everything.
Jesus died on the cross because we DESERVE death. We have been GIVEN life. It's a gift. THAT is the point of grace: unmerited favor!

It's entirely possible that the largest threat to the morals of our society (and more specifically the future of Christianity in America) can be boiled down to the media mantra, "I deserve better than this." Want a couple of examples?

If you are in a relationship and your partner isn't perfect, you immediately start thinking, "I deserve better than this." A couple I know got a divorce, and it was obvious (to me) that it was inevitable. One day the wife was complaining about the husbands snoring and I asked her about wearing ear plugs. "I shouldn't have to," she replied. "It's HIS problem."

Have you ever been upset with your parents because they got you a gift that wasn't the RIGHT one? Maybe an MP3 player that wasn't the cool iPod that all your friends have? Perhaps they gave you a car, but it wasn't the one you wanted. Obviously you DESERVED the right one - and THEY blew it!

How about this one... "I really like this swimsuit," said the 17 year old girl. "It's too revealing," said her mother. "It will be too much for the boys to see that." "That's not MY problem," said the well-meaning girl. "THEY'RE the ones with the lust problem."

I think this is basically what Red Mage is getting at above, and I think it's worth repeating a hundred times.

Yes laddies, your Christian brothers struggle with this. Does this mean you can blow it off as "their problem?" Hell no! Human beings are capable of adapting to nearly any environment - don't tell me "it's too hard." This is a cop out and the tell-tale signs that you've totally bought into the victimist culture that shirks responsibility and the sensationalist media that casts the victim as "brave" for talking about other people's problems.

I dunno. I seem to be rambling. Perhaps the best way to figure out which camp you are in is to ask yourself this: Are you more upset I said "hell no" in the previous paragraph, or about the real problem at hand. I'm just asking... Now if you'll excuse me, I have some pop-up adds to delete. I really shouldn't search Google for cars; that's just begging for trouble.

[SailorDove]

Hmm, those are all right. I little too tight. Don't wanna show off the curves you aren't supposed to have, eh heh ._.

Um, not sure if you meant the 1st or 2nd link or both.

I like Ohana's because they have some 1 & 2 pieces, (that cover like a one piece) that have short sleeve, cover that back with shorts. The part I don't like about the 2nd link is the open back. Of course, the one design at Ohana's that I liked best is out of stock.

I dress pretty modestly, not frumpy. But always feel uncomfortable showing too much skin, (anything low cut or above the knees) or well something being to tight fitting. So I understand what you mean.

Puguni, yeah, me too.

Nighshade, well its not just guys. Always felt kinda awkard when a guy wasn't wearing a shirt. So understand a little what you mean.

RedMage & Mith, Yeah, I understand & agree with what you're saying. Have a simple rule of my own. If any clothing makes me feel awkard or uncomfortable in front of my dad &/or brother, don't wear it.

[Kuro-Mizu]

I only read the first post! But your my hero hehe ^_^

[ADXC]

Oh boy I don't like swimming in public, sure I like to swim but not around alot of people. I wear swimtrunks and a shirt. Yes, modesty is the best policy. (Or is that honesty.)

Personally I don't look at what people are wearing when swimming, I just look at the fun of swimming. I mean thats the overal point of actually being there, right?

[chelle0227]

I bought a bathing suit that I liked, when I saw it, but now I'm not to crazy for it and kinda wishing I had never bought it. Maybe I will get a new one, or just get into my older ones, which I still like, and hope it still fits.

[teen4truth]

Thanks Nate =)

thanks for the links, girls!

Puguni, my friend's own sister told her it was stupid that she decided to wear swimtrunks over her bathing suit.

Nightshade X, RedMage, and Mith:

You guys said some awesome stuff! It's true, most girls DO blow it off because it's 'not their problem,' or they dress skimpily on purpose to get the boys' attention. We girls truly are guilty of those things.
And it is really cool to see guys admit that girls in skimpy clothing are distracting. I think this "I don't pay attention, I'm not affected either way" thing is a load of crap.

Thanks Vernhal ^^

[Anna Mae]

I know devout Christian girls that wear bikinis. If you want to call them immodest, then I will get VERY upset.

I think an important point that hasn't been mentioned yet is that modesty is about more than clothes. Don't get me wrong]www.therebelution.com[/URL]. Be sure to read at least part of the survey they conducted a while back: http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/browse.

[RubyJewelStone]

Personally, I like tankinis since you can just put on some/a shorts/skirt over the bottoms and then you look normal to walk around on the street (aside from your now water-messed hair )

Trunks are cool too. Why do girls have to walk around half (or less than half) naked?

Of course, I don't really mind bikinis that much. But if you're doing it just for attention and you aren't really comfortable in it, then I think it's stupid. Why would you want to run around the beach/pool wondering if your boobs are still in your top?

Thus, my vandetta against string bikinis.

But for my idea of aesthetic value, I like the balance of a somewhat substantial bikini top partnered with shorts.

I don't find the navel and back to be immodest at all. But maybe that's just how my area thinks. It's so hot, we're used to it.

[teen4truth]

Cool link, Anna Mae. Are all of the responses from guys?

[Debitt]

I wear a bikini top and shorts. Wearing a one piece feels really uncomfortable to me. x.x But I hate being at the beach or anywhere public in anything that's tailored for swimming, period. So.

[mechana2015]

The responses are all from guys, but theres some bizzare skew to some of the responses on "The modesty survey", some bordering on the urr... puritanistic side of things.