How do japanese cartoons mix with theology?

[Radical Dreamer]

To put it in basic terms, we as Christians try to find anime (really, this applies to all media) that lines up with the standards we have. For instance, one Christian might not be bothered by an anime with language in it, but another Christian might, so that Christian would not watch that anime. Ashley summed that up pretty well in her post.

As for your YouTube situation, after clicking the link, I didn't see many posts that seemed like an "attack" (then again, I didn't read very far at all, so I could have missed a lot of stuff). I will say that there's certainly things on your YouTube page that give Christians reason to be offended and want to defend their religion, however. If I were you, I wouldn't be surprised that people are taking offense to things that you know would be offensive to them. If you don't want to have to debate about it (as that's inevitable on YouTube, anyways), then either don't post about it, or don't engage in debate.

My two cents. XD

[ArchiveD]

>>>>>How do you know it's the longest thing you'll experience?<<<<

The only thing that could be longer is death but since you obviously aren't conscious during death, Life is longer.


>>>>>>I for one come from the Reformed Calvinistic tradition and hold the Amillennial Preterist view of eschatology.<<<<<


What's that?


>>>>>As far as Christian apologetics go.
The most famous book is of course C.S.Lewis' Mere Christianity.Though if you want a more entertaining book try Frank L.Short's two books:
The Parables of Peanuts and The Gospel According To Peanuts.<<<<<


I tend to avoid C.S. lewis. His narnia books were full of clues to pedophile tendencies of his, and his logic is he got up one day and became christian. That just isn't for me.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>As for your YouTube situation, after clicking the link, I didn't see many posts that seemed like an "attack" (then again, I didn't read very far at all, so I could have missed a lot of stuff). I will say that there's certainly things on your YouTube page that give Christians reason to be offended and want to defend their religion, however. If I were you, I wouldn't be surprised that people are taking offense to things that you know would be offensive to them. If you don't want to have to debate about it (as that's inevitable on YouTube, anyways), then either don't post about it, or don't engage in debate.<<<<

I'm fine with debate, it's attacks I don't like. <edit, see below>, that sort of stuff I don't appreciate. Also, I removed a <edit>load of comments on my comment bar there since they were crapflooded to the extreme there and were messy. I still have the text saved, some are rather nasty.

<mod note: I know you're new to the site, but we don't allow any profanity as this is a family-friendly site. Please do not use any in your further posts, thanks! --Ashley>

[Doubleshadow]

Whether or not your anger is justified, there are some words in the post you need to censor.

[ArchiveD]

<edti> and <edit> are just the words they said to me, I wasn't calling anyone that.

Mod Note: As Ashley said above, we don't allow profanity here, not even in reference to what someone else said.

[Eaglestrike]

The only thing that could be longer is death but since you obviously aren't conscious during death, Life is longer.

Or an eternal life. Your body dies but your mind continues, many religions have some form of this.

[RedMage]

________ and ________ are just the words they said to me, I wasn't calling anyone that.

We realize that, but there are certain standards we adhere to on this forum for the sake of courtesy and because we have younger members.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>Or an eternal life. Your body dies but your mind continues, many religions have some form of this.<<<<

Well I doubt a brain can survive while its rotting, and since brains arent eternal, minds are not either, since you're brain is your mind.

[RedMage]

>>>>Or an eternal life. Your body dies but your mind continues, many religions have some form of this.<<<<

Well I doubt a brain can survive while its rotting, and since brains arent eternal, minds are not either, since you're brain is your mind.

The brain is the physical organ that contains the mind. The mind is more than the brain.

"Soul" might be a better term than "mind."

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I understand you mean well, but may I politely request that you edit or change some of your wording? I totally understand that is what they said, but we do have people here as young as 13 and 14, and this is a family website, after all.

I tend to avoid C.S. lewis. His narnia books were full of clues to pedophile tendencies of his, and his logic is he got up one day and became christian. That just isn't for me.

You may find Ravi Zacharias and Norm Geisler quite interesting. Ravi Zacharias' podcasts are pretty interesting as well.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>The brain is the physical organ that contains the mind. The mind is more than the brain.

"Soul" might be a better term than "mind."<<<<<

What inside the brain notes that the mind is seperate?

There is no such things as souls.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

There is no such things as souls.

Let's not get off topic. Besides, the rules here state that theological discussion shouldn't occur on these boards.

[RedMage]

What inside the brain notes that the mind is seperate?

"Notes"? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

There is no such things as souls.

Ah, you're very certain of that.

[RedMage]

Let's not get off topic. Besides, the rules here state that theological discussion shouldn't occur on these boards.

It's hardly theology, more like metaphysics. If he wants to know what Christians believe, then I hardly think the board rules prohibit us from telling him.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

[quote="RedMage"]It's hardly theology, more like metaphysics. ]
True. Nonetheless in the current state of discussion, I would say they tie in together fairly well. Because it really boils down to a debate on the validity of Christianity, and if I recall, I don't think that's allowed. I could be wrong, however.

Or maybe I'm just seeing this at a different angle...

[ArchiveD]

Didn't Ravi Zacharias become a christian just because he was suicidal and someone read him the gospels? To me, thats one lame reason to become a christian.


Doesn't Norm Geisler promote that crapola that christians are under attack and being peresecuted?


I've always been a bigger fan of people like Joseph Campbell and Brett Keane

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Didn't Ravi Zacharias become a christian just because he was suicidal and someone read him the gospels? To me, thats one lame reason to become a christian.


Doesn't Norm Geisler promote that crapola that christians are under attack and being peresecuted?

You're missing the point. It's not how he became a Christian. It's why he believes it to be absolutely true and the things he addresses in his arguments.

As for Norm Geisler, go take a look at the condition of Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, and North Korea. There you will see some major Christian persecution.

[RedMage]

Didn't Ravi Zacharias become a christian just because he was suicidal and someone read him the gospels? To me, thats one lame reason to become a christian.

I'm not familiar with Ravi Zacharias's story myself. If he was at a low enough point in his life to be considering suicide and saw something in Christianity that could raise him out of it, that seems like a pretty good reason to become a Christian to me.

And he's not the only one. I know people personally who've been on the brink of taking their own lives who were saved from it by God.

Doesn't Norm Geisler promote that crapola that christians are under attack and being peresecuted?

No offense, but didn't you come to this forum to tell us you were under attack and being persecuted?

[ArchiveD]

Well notes as in what in the brain points to the mind being seperate? That idea goes against all cognitive science.

And yes, I'm certain souls do not exist. Never have, never will.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>>Doesn't Norm Geisler promote that crapola that christians are under attack and being peresecuted?<<<<

While I believe theres a difference between attacks on the net and persecution, how does that change the fact that the idea of Christians in America (Normie was in america) are being peresecuted crapola? I didnt say claiming persecution from all angles is crapola, I said if a christian proclaims it in America, then its crapola.


What, are the jews attacking christians?

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Well notes as in what in the brain points to the mind being seperate? That idea goes against all cognitive science.

And yes, I'm certain souls do not exist. Never have, never will.

If I recall, there is a large amount of psychologists and neuro-scientists who don't believe the cognitive approach (Excluding the Freudians/Psychoanalysts of course. I don't see them of having any real merit).

[Radical Dreamer]

>>>>The brain is the physical organ that contains the mind. The mind is more than the brain.

"Soul" might be a better term than "mind."<<<<<

What inside the brain notes that the mind is seperate?

There is no such things as souls.

I might as well inform you that debates are very looked down upon at CAA (i.e. not allowed), so please keep that in mind. I'd respond to your claim that souls do not exist, but I'd rather stay within CAA's boundaries than break them.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>I'm not familiar with Ravi Zacharias's story myself. If he was at a low enough point in his life to be considering suicide and saw something in Christianity that could raise him out of it, that seems like a pretty good reason to become a Christian to me.
<<<<<

I think you misunderstand me, I think thats a stupid reason from a philosophical point of view. That means christianity only works for him, and he is not suited to say it works for everyone.


>>>>And he's not the only one. I know people personally who've been on the brink of taking their own lives who were saved from it by God.<<<<

Great, but once their life is back on track, its probably a good idea they dump god.

[RedMage]

Well notes as in what in the brain points to the mind being seperate?

The brain is just tissue. There's no explanation for how the physical organ the brain can produce the thoughts we ascribe to the mind by itself any more than you can throw all the chemicals that make a living organism in a pot and expect them to come to life.

And yes, I'm certain souls do not exist.

I certainly hope you're correct about that.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I think you misunderstand me, I think thats a stupid reason from a philosophical point of view. That means christianity only works for him, and he is not suited to say it works for everyone.

Yeah but if you actually listened to him speak, you'd realize that him becoming a Christian isn't any real basis in his arguments. You're saying that because of the methodology of him becoming Christian is stupid, he must be a stupid person and therefore has no merit.

He isn't a Christian because someone read him the Book of John. He's a Christian for the reasons which he argues for. You're looking at this at the wrong direction.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>The brain is just tissue. There's no explanation for how the physical organ the brain can produce the thoughts we ascribe to the mind by itself any more than you can throw all the chemicals that make a living organism in a pot and expect them to come to life.<<<

Um, yeah there is. I suggest you read up into cognitive science.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromonitoring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrophysiology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

[Doubleshadow]

I wasn't calling anyone that.

I was aware of that, I meant you were justified in your anger at being called such things, not that anyone is ever justified in using such words.

I'm a huge fan of Ravi Zacarias. Read his books with an open mind if you get a chance.

If you are searching for genuine answers about God, then I suggest you ask Him directly and pray.

If you think Christians are bogus (I thought that when I was an atheist for the same reasons you site), then I suggest you try Christ for yourself. People are imperfect and will always fail, even when they try their hardest. I'm sorry that the Christians you know are so horrible (the Christians I knew prevented me from becoming a Christian by their behavior), but that doesn't mean their are not good people out their who genuinely try. Look for them without cynicism or presumptions and you'll find them.

[ArchiveD]

>>>>I'm a huge fan of Ravi Zacarias. Read his books with an open mind if you get a chance.

If you are searching for genuine answers about God, then I suggest you ask Him directly and pray.

If you think Christians are bogus (I thought that when I was an atheist for the same reasons you site), then I suggest you try Christ for yourself. People are imperfect and will always fail, even when they try their hardest. I'm sorry that the Christians you know are so horrible (the Christians I knew prevented me from becoming a Christian by their behavior), but that doesn't mean their are not good people out their who genuinely try. Look for them without cynicism or presumptions and you'll find them.<<<<


I'll read more into Ravi then as you ask. Send me some of his writings and podcast and Ill read as much as I can today.



About the prayer, I'm sorry but God does not talk, as he does not exist. I don't think that will give me answers.



Tell me how I should try christianity, and I shall do it. Seek and ye shall find!

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I'll read more into Ravi then as you ask. Send me some of his writings and podcast and Ill read as much as I can today.

Just Thinking, his Radio and Podcast.

As for books, there's Can Man Live Without God, Jesus Among Other Gods, and some others. Check amazon.com if you wish.

[Doubleshadow]

I'll read more into Ravi then as you ask. Send me some of his writings and podcast and Ill read as much as I can today.

About the prayer, I'm sorry but God does not talk, as he does not exist. I don't think that will give me answers.

Tell me how I should try christianity, and I shall do it. Seek and ye shall find!

My favorite book of his is 'Christ Among the Religions of the World'. I also saw him on TV this semester lecturing in what was probably either Malaysia or Indonesia. His audience was Muslim (or so I assume due to their questions regarding revelation versus reason) so you don't have to worry about a uncritical audience.

Are you so sure about prayer? What do you have to lose by trying?

Who said anything about trying a religion? I don't recommend that. Religious people are stuck in rituals and ruts. I recommend you try to know Christ for yourself, which means asking Him to make Himself real to you so you can know Him. That means reading the Bible, while taking it seriously like the life and death situation it was and still is in many parts of the world, and praying that something will come of it. I know you think prayer is nonsense, but if is, what is your loss? If it is not, then why pass up an opportunity to learn more?