S.O.S. I'm Having a Mini-Crisis!!!!!

[Agent Anderson]

Why are so many willing to assist deceit?

[Tsukuyomi]

Man, after that last post by Agent Anderson.. I'm not sure if I want to submit my idea anymore (sobs). I'll PM you instead Temulin (wink wink) ^_^

Just kidding.. I gots nothing (lol)!

[Mangafanatic]

I actually have an okay idea! And it doesn't involve undead monkeys!

So, here it is. Buy/borrow a speaker phone. Call a good friend on the phone who will be willing to help you out. Read your work, while recording, to your friend-- pretending as though you are doing it entirely for that person.

[Tsukuyomi]

I'll help with that "I'll pay anyone $20 to read it for me... " idea! I'll do it for free to (maybe). I can't do weird voices (I don't think), but I'm willing to help ^_^

[Mave]

Honestly, I find this quite strange. Sometimes in life, you just have to do things you don't want to do. Kinda like being out of your comfort zone.

Just do it and get over with it. I bet that once you're done with it, you'll find that it wasn't -that- bad/psychotic/crazy/uncomfortable. Seriously, do you really want to spend the next two months fretting over an lie/excuse/wrangling method out of this assignment? I'm sure you have better and more fun stuff to do.

[KBMaster]

Tape a picture of Reno to the wall and read to him.

I second what Mave said. The more time you spend fretting about it and trying to get out of it is time you could be spending actually DOING it.

[Wind]

yes it would be better to do it... * pushes evil twin aside* says No it won't don't listen to her

use the dog ate my homework or cat ate my videorecorder excuses

[USSRGirl]

o___o Oh man... I offended the resident rabid FF6 fan. Bummer. I was gonna say Umaro!! But geez, the game is like 20+ years old. Get over it. FF7 has it beat by a landslide. :: Ducks under a bunker before Espers fly out and attack here ::

Ya know MangaFanatic and KB's ideas aren't bad. If all else fails I'll recite it to the Reno poster over my bed.

Mave... so... basically... you're saying that screaming, crying, and begging for mercy would be a tad on the immature side? Hmm... scratch that idea then.

***Trying to load Nat's audio file***

[mitsuki lover]

Or you could simply call up your teacher and give her the riot act on why doing so much homework is bad for your health..plus that you have a note from your doctor saying if you write or talk too much you will develop an incurable disease
related to the funny bone..or do what Rimmer always did on Red Dwarf..write
I am a fish ten times and faint.
Or change your name to Excel and say you're under orders from Ilpalazo
to NOT do any homework for the next 100 hours.

[Hakaii]

Why are so many willing to assist deceit?

hey, first of all, many of us started out suggesting just doing it (though I suggested puting oneself in a differant mental state to do it) and second, if she is THIS desperate to get out of doing the presentation herself (even though she did all the other work) then I suspect that this is more of a personal problem than it is pure lazyness. and her grade is on the line so whatever works and is personally ethical, is an option. I think that she may have a phobia of this particular type of public speaking so i don't blame her.

long story short... lighten up.

[Mave]

Mave... so... basically... you're saying that screaming, crying, and begging for mercy would be a tad on the immature side? Hmm... scratch that idea then.

Nope, that's not what I mean. Hope you find a solution nonetheless. Good luck!

[Kaligraphic]

Why are so many willing to assist deceit?

If you're fooled by somebody talking about monkeys, wormholes, and zombies, then you're just stupid and shouldn't be a teacher.

[Raiden no Kishi]

Why are so many willing to assist deceit?

Because it is generally understood by all that deceitful ideas aren't meant seriously.

.rai//

[USSRGirl]

If you're fooled by somebody talking about monkeys, wormholes, and zombies, then you're just stupid and shouldn't be a teacher.

I should say so. T___T And 2nd Hakaii as well. Agent Anderson, I promise you that when my undead zombie monkey comes to kidnap me I will send you a snapshot, kay?

But seriously... I do have a large phobia of this rather weird kind of public speaking. I really can't do it without cracking up... not the same as being in front of people. But..... *siiiiiiiiiigh of martyrdom...* I shall eventually do it, I suppose. Or lose it in the mail... happens all the time ya know...

[Dante]

Why are so many willing to assist deceit?

Because quite frankly, High School is a worthless soulless institution that basically consists of a set of annoying games and nasty hoops which the poor "student" must jump through. To be honest, does her sending a video or her reading actually teach her ANYTHING? Let's be honest here, no... not really... this will not lead Temulin to a better understanding of what The Good is, frankly it won't even improve her cognitive skills in the least...

HOWEVER! Note that by thoroughly plotting and thinking out ways to avoid the reading, her brain nerves are firing off like mad. She's already written the stupid thing, and goodness knows Temulin can write, but this entire "deceit" is an incredible exercise in mental weight lifting... Ok, so it's not spectacular... but it's certainly better than the other stupid alternative.

In the US today a HS diploma is like the following... it's something everyone is basically forced into attaining... you can avoid it, but we're going to kick you out on the street where the evil teachers from high school will continuously laugh at you... But gaining the degree doesn't gain you much... maybe a job at the local McDonalds... but darn, I couldn't get a summer job at McDonalds last Summer with a B.S. in Physics... ... ... I didn't speak Spanish ... Stupid language barriers! WATASHIHA(WA) NIHONGOGAHANISHIMASU!

Anyways, back to the point! Keep thinking of ways out of it and using those higher order cognitive muscles... and just to drive everyone REALLY nuts, derive the attributes of The Good while you're at it!

[Puritan]

Oh come now, Pascal, it isn't quite that bad. High school isn't always fun, mind you, but it's hardly a banal and useless institution. While it does tend to teach to a lower common denominator, much of school is about what you make of it, high school included. There are silly hoops to jump through, but they prepare you for the silly hoops you have to jump through in every part of life. Trust me, there are plenty of things in this world you simply have to bear with (preferably with a grin) because someone needs or wants information (though you have no idea why) or to serve purposes you don't understand. In the end, its best to just get used to the oddities of life and school. However, this certainly doesn't fall under the category of a useless exercise. The prime point of the exercise is to try to give her some experience in public speaking, albeit second hand. It may not be applied physics, but it's extremely important in the world, many people suffer from poor public speaking skills and have to suffer through the poor public speaking skills of others, so trying to help give Temmy experience with public speaking will serve her well later in life (pretty much no matter what field she enters) and will help society in the long run. If she wants to be the iron-fisted ruler of the world, she at least needs to be able to deliver a great propaganda speech.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I agree with Mave here. Just suck it up and do it. Nobody gets to always do what they want. Life doesn't consist of what we want and only that.

But seriously... I do have a large phobia of this rather weird kind of public speaking.

Temulin.... EVERYONE has a fear of public speaking at first. I doubt you have a phobia because I can't see you being conditioned into hating it in the first place. The only reason why people are scared is because they've never done it before. Doing it is what makes it more bearable.

[Hakaii]

as far as this whole thing about "jumping through hoops", I agree with Pascal. Its rediculous. I am an intelligent human being, not a mass produced minion of a high school teacher with a bad attitude. if your going to teach me, then TEACH me. doing things that are redundant are usually what a teacher gives as "buisy work". and as far as phobias go, while public speaking is naturally a fear for most people (doesn't really stop me from unloading my big mouth) a PHOBIA is an irrational fear that causes physiological effects. note: PHYSIOLOGICAL!! it may, in fact, be semi-dangerous to Temmis health to speak in front of her family. If I remember correctly, she has no problem with real public speaking, but the issue is because of the family and the neighbors. so what does that tell you? sounds like more of a phobia to me. which is completely understandable.

[teen4truth]

hmmm I'm coming in a little late, so someone might have alrady mentioned this...but if it's hard for you then BE GLAD!!!! We don't get better at things unless we do them.

And I know this is probably not what you want to hear...but think about how you can serve God in situations like this. Hard times will either bring you closer to him or further away...one or the other. It's up to you to decide which one it will be....

I hope you have fun and get a good grade

[Radical Dreamer]

Temulin.... EVERYONE has a fear of public speaking at first. I doubt you have a phobia because I can't see you being conditioned into hating it in the first place. The only reason why people are scared is because they've never done it before. Doing it is what makes it more bearable.

Absolutely. I've only just recently gotten over my "fear" of public speaking. For the longest time, I hated it because my tongue would always go into "cotton-ball mode", I would talk too fast, and I just couldn't get the words out right. But after attending a mock legislature/trial with my school for a second time this year, I found that the speeches came a LOT easier, and that feeling remained when I had to give a presentation to my English class a few weeks later. Just practice it a bunch, you'll do fine.

as far as this whole thing about "jumping through hoops", I agree with Pascal. Its rediculous. I am an intelligent human being, not a mass produced minion of a high school teacher with a bad attitude. if your going to teach me, then TEACH me. doing things that are redundant are usually what a teacher gives as "buisy work".

Well, one of the reasons you can be intelligent is because you went to highschool. o_o Granted, I don't like to do assignments that seem to have no real value, but there's something to be said for gaining discipline and maturity from these things. And redundancy is one of the things that helps most people to learn.

and as far as phobias go, while public speaking is naturally a fear for most people (doesn't really stop me from unloading my big mouth) a PHOBIA is an irrational fear that causes physiological effects. note: PHYSIOLOGICAL!! it may, in fact, be semi-dangerous to Temmis health to speak in front of her family. If I remember correctly, she has no problem with real public speaking, but the issue is because of the family and the neighbors. so what does that tell you? sounds like more of a phobia to me. which is completely understandable.

I...highly doubt that what USSRGirl is talking about here is a true phobia. I mean, she said doing this kind of thing made her laugh a lot and just feel weird talking to herself. It's not like doing this will throw her into shock and a seizure. o_o I don't think speaking to your family can really give you health problems. XD]true[/i] phobia as much as she means, "wow I really hate doing this and I want to burn the assignment".

'Course, feel free to correct me if I got it wrong, USSRGirl. XD

[Hakaii]

Well, one of the reasons you can be intelligent is because you went to highschool. o_o Granted, I don't like to do assignments that seem to have no real value, but there's something to be said for gaining discipline and maturity from these things. And redundancy is one of the things that helps most people to learn.

Redundant assighnments that teach you to do mondane things may teach you SOME discipline. But discipline is a trait that comes with time and increases in responcibility. You can learn accountability and do work that surves a purpose at the same time. Another thing about assighnments like these is that they teach you to only TAKE orders, why can't teachers give work that teaches students to inspire others to take orders from them? (like in R.O.T.C.) High School teachers these days seem to teach students under the pretense that the students are going to work at McDonalds.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Redundant assighnments that teach you to do mondane things may teach you SOME discipline. But discipline is a trait that comes with time and increases in responcibility. You can learn accountability and do work that surves a purpose at the same time. Another thing about assighnments like these is that they teach you to only TAKE orders, why can't teachers give work that teaches students to inspire others to take orders from them? (like in R.O.T.C.) High School teachers these days seem to teach students under the pretense that the students are going to work at McDonalds.

Well I have no idea what kind of highschool you went to, but I learn a lot in school. English may as well be one of my favorites because I develop a liking for literature over time. (Broadens my horizons) Certain literature people find "boring" or what not (Hamlet, The Glass Menagerie, The Great Gatsby) things you may find "Redundant and pointless" in fact taught me lessons about life, and a much deeper understanding of the philosophical implications that are brought forward from the text.

As for something like math class, learning AP Calc may not be the most important thing if you're not going to go into that field, but you don't know what other people plan to do in their lives. Plus basic rudimentary math is always important in life.

And of course, biology is important. I think having a basic understanding of how life operates is important. Same with physics. It applies everywhere. Do you drive a car? That requires physics.

In fact I'm also taking a film analysis class this year in school. I love the class. We watch great classical movies, while at the same time learning about the productive aspect of the films as well as the deeper meanings within them. Don't tell me these things are pointless or redundant. On the contrary, they're educational and I love it.

Even my term-paper that's due this year. It's one about A Clockwork Orange. I'm kind of excited about reading it and doing a paper on it. As far as I know, it's sort of a social commentary regarding society and morality. I don't find this pointless at all. (Though it is a load of work) In fact I find that these things are what make me a more open and intelligent person.

[Hakaii]

Well I have no idea what kind of highschool you went to, but I learn a lot in school. English may as well be one of my favorites because I develop a liking for literature over time. (Broadens my horizons) Certain literature people find "boring" or what not (Hamlet, The Glass Menagerie, The Great Gatsby) things you may find "Redundant and pointless" in fact taught me lessons about life, and a much deeper understanding of the philosophical implications that are brought forward from the text.

As for something like math class, learning AP Calc may not be the most important thing if you're not going to go into that field, but you don't know what other people plan to do in their lives. Plus basic rudimentary math is always important in life.

And of course, biology is important. I think having a basic understanding of how life operates is important. Same with physics. It applies everywhere. Do you drive a car? That requires physics.

In fact I'm also taking a film analysis class this year in school. I love the class. We watch great classical movies, while at the same time learning about the productive aspect of the films as well as the deeper meanings within them. Don't tell me these things are pointless or redundant. On the contrary, they're educational and I love it.

Even my term-paper that's due this year. It's one about A Clockwork Orange. I'm kind of excited about reading it and doing a paper on it. As far as I know, it's sort of a social commentary regarding society and morality. I don't find this pointless at all. (Though it is a load of work) In fact I find that these things are what make me a more open and intelligent person.

Excuse me? all of those subjects are FAR from redundant! I did not say that ALL of high school was valueless. what I said was that assighnments that were repeatitive (such as reading Animal Farm when I had already read and fully understood it years before) were a waste of time. While there is a great deal of things to learn in High School, some teachers are lazy and do not take the time to reach out to the students they teach and give "buisy work" so that the students look like they are learning. Some college teachers do this too. I usually drop the class and find a better educated teacher in this case. Every PROFESSOR (meaning they have a PhD) I've ever had has been a great teacher and their classes have actually made a differance to me. If a teacher isn't giving you (or your class) the time of day to be creative and open-minded in teaching their class, then I don't have the time of day for their attitudes.

[Jasdero]

If you really just can't talk to a recorder, tell your teacher about it. Let her know how you can't help but laugh when you're talking to yourself. I won't suggest making up some random excuse since it may result in a 0 for your grade. XD;

I would really recommend just doing the recording, though. Since you feel uncomfortable reading it around your family, you could always ask a friend to sit by and let you read it out to them while you record it. You could even ask someone to put in earplugs while you read it out loud... Just do it and get it over with! XD

Since you're also doing the Shakespearean voice, have fun with it! Let yourself be all dramatic and if you find yourself laughing, pause the recording, gather yourself together again, and just continue. You want to get this done with fast, so it doesn't need to be perfect. When you check over your recording at the end, even if sounds weird because of the pausing and abrupt giggle-ending, just let it go (unless you're shooting for perfection and an A). Let your teacher know that this was a hard assignment for you to finish up.

Good luck!

[Peanut]

Excuse me? all of those subjects are FAR from redundant! I did not say that ALL of high school was valueless. what I said was that assighnments that were repeatitive (such as reading Animal Farm when I had already read and fully understood it years before) were a waste of time. While there is a great deal of things to learn in High School, some teachers are lazy and do not take the time to reach out to the students they teach and give "buisy work" so that the students look like they are learning. Some college teachers do this too. I usually drop the class and find a better educated teacher in this case. Every PROFESSOR (meaning they have a PhD) I've ever had has been a great teacher and their classes have actually made a differance to me. If a teacher isn't giving you (or your class) the time of day to be creative and open-minded in teaching their class, then I don't have the time of day for their attitudes.

Ok...I would just like to note that this discussion is quite off topic and very debateish...so I would recommend that it stops after my post...yes, I too cannot resist to put my opinion into this ringing but I hope that maybe it will change some of your ideas about High School.

I am currently near the last half of my high school education and I must say that I have mixed feelings about it. The classes I have enjoyed have given me some of the best times of my life and I honestly wouldn't trade my time in them for all of the money in the world. But, I must say that this is mostly because of how amazing my teachers were. This was because they were highly educated and probably should have been teaching at the collegiate level (for instance, my AP Bio teacher was in the second revision of his disertation before he decided that he didn't want to go into the field he was going into...and then he became a high school teacher). The truth is if I had had any other teacher I might of hated the courses I was taking and I doubt I wouldn't of done well in them either. I also must say that High School has supplied me with classes which were worthless...such as gym, which because of a lab day in the honors science classes, I had to take for two years straight...I don't care what any of you say...Gym is worthless...they try to make it worthwhile but honestly...they fail...miserably...The truth is, most of the classes I haven't enjoyed were actually the standard level classes and honors physics (sorry Pascal...if you want to blame it on anything...blame it on the fact that I had had two of my favorite teachers of all times the years before and then I got my physics teacher, who wasn't bad but just simply paled in comparison the other two science teachers from the years before...). BUT this has not always been the case. Health is useless but I didn't hate the class because of how nice the teacher was. When I entered my Military History class I expected it to be one of the worst classes I had ever taken. In truth I wasn't even supposed to be in it, I was only taking it because they couldn't fit Honors Philosophy into my schedule and out of the choices I had to fill that void in my schedule, Military History was the most interesting one. Now, after watching hours of movies and doing a good bit of worthless busy work, I am glad to say that it was one of my favorite courses that I have taken (and hopefully it will give me an edge in Of Nations and States...MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!). I guess what I'm trying to say is that High School has contained some of the best years of my life but has also contained some of the most painful (stupid two years of gym... ), and honestly...I just want to be done with it...I want to go to college...and soon...because something tells me I'm going to enjoy that a lot more...after I survive that first section of the first year (you know...between when school starts and Thanksgiving break)...

Now then...Temulin...I would just like to remind you that my offer still stands...after all, if you hope to become an evil dictator your going to need to learn how to torture those below you...I mean your peers...or you can take my other two, far inferior offers *note the sarcasm* in which you would either actually do the assignment or use what Puritan recommended and claim that you did it for artistic reasons...anyway, those are my thoughts...

Peanut

[USSRGirl]

Honestly... Pascal hit the nail right on the head. I have NEVER... no not once in all honesty... learned a thing in school. Except that society is filled with Godless liberals who suck out our tax dollars like blood-sucking leeches. That, and how to beat the system, which in my opinion is a far greater real-life value than any B.S. they teach you in school. To do the work makes you a perfect commie. To get AROUND doing it or have someone else do it makes you superior. My own student advisor actually stated in those same words that "highschool is just a hurtle you have to get through." For all the crap about school 'guiding' you towards a career, my career goals have not changed in about ten years. T__T

Also, I've done many, many, many speeches, powerpoint presentations, and public speaking stuff in the past. All got great grades. I don't even use notecards. I have no problem with public speaking at all. I *DO* have a problem with reciting stuff to myself because I tend to start giggling when the whole: "Ok, why I am talking to myself?" thoughts start to kick in. However, if it's a radio drama they want, it's a radio drama they shall get. I'm working on a kinda creepy, Vicent Price style voice to help me get through this.

Though I greatly appreciate your tips everyone!

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Honestly... Pascal hit the nail right on the head. I have NEVER... no not once in all honesty... learned a thing in school.

Well maybe you should pay attention in class for once. Instead of moping and groping about classes. Take time to let it be a way to educate yourself in something. I feel like I'm learning a great deal of school. And true there are the pros and cons of school. But the pros outweigh the cons.

[Hakaii]

Ok, this is getting of topic but...

speaking of why high school was something to suffer through. does anyone remember those idots in school who would be the "class clown"? They were such a PAIN! and whats worse is that the rest of the class would have to slow down and re-learn what the teacher just went over. sorry I know I'm ranting, but those guys had no buisness going to school in the first place. they should have done us all a favor and win their Darwin Award early in life. Seriously, I remember this one moron who would brag all around school about how good he was at fixing cars....yea, I'm real jealous:shake: . (Before the Radiator broke and caused the whole engine block on my car to break, I would constantly be fixing that thing MYSELF. why should I pay some guy to tell me whats wrong with my car when I can do the same thing by going online and then looking at it myself?) anyway, I ran into him again a couple of months ago.... He served me my gas while wipping my windshield (multi-tasking?)

long story short, I hated slowing the class down for the guys who were to incompetant to keep their traps shut while the rest of us were working.

Thank goodness that my college prof.'s don't put up with fools like them!!:jump:

[USSRGirl]

MSP, I get straight A's in every subject. I'll scan you a copy of my report card if you don't believe me. I've never studied for a test in my life or done any or read any of those stupid tips they tell you in school. The only subject I'm bad at is math, which because I'm nice and polite to my teachers unlike most teens who are enable to hold conversations for more than 10 seconds, they pass me anyway. I've had teachers just show me the answer book and tell me to just write something there and magically get a good grade. It's not underhanded, that's life skills that will serve you in business later on. Very Dale Carnegie. XD Then of course there's online solvers.

Buuuuuuut... getting way off topic. Hakaii, yeah I hear you. Wow, that's sweet revenge about the guy serving your gas pump though! XD I can see he's going places fast. Why do 15-18 year olds still seem to think that making silly noises and shouting in class is amusing? I thought we left kindergarden years ago. Time to stop eating glue, ya know? XD

Anywho, I shall rise to the task of giving this speech. Lessee... I'm thinking Vincent Price might be too creepy... how about more of a Grover Gardener (old British guy who does the audios of C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy) cup of tea and a biscuit type voice?

[Raiden no Kishi]

I'd try for your best Count Von Count impression. Do the cliche accent, and when you get to a number, count it all the way from one, and don't forget the laugh.

Man, the Count was awesome.

.rai//