Endangered Species shirt , worth buying?

[ChristianKitsune]

Disclaimer:(I DON'T WANT A DEBATE! I JUST WANT SOME FEEDBACK! THIS ISN'T ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS ISSUE IS RIGHT OR NOT...SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS INTO A DEBATE) (font is large for emphasis not yelling)

I am not sure where this goes, because I dont' really wanna showcase this in the gallery...and I don't wanna wait for my other pic to be bumped back. (I hate spamming the gallery)
Soo.. I decided to post this question here...
(end of disclaimers)

Do you guys remember my drawing of the baby, with the words "endangered species" stamped on it from last year? http://www.christiananime.net/showthread.php?t=33352

Well I have been told that it would look interesting as a T-Shirt, but these days, who wants to wear gigantic pics on their shirts? Most people want small simplified symbols. So.. I simplified the images. And I created 3 different designs.



Here are the descriptions:
1. The baby is blue. It represents a baby boy.
2. The baby is light pink. It presents a baby girl.
3. The babies are representing both genders and mystery gender. (sometimes parents don't know what their kids will be until they are born.)

My Key verse for these shirts:

Psalms 139: 13-16
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

The back is pretty self explanitory.

this is my opinion, and I am sorry if you are offended by this. It is my belief that Life starts as soon as the baby is concieved. A child isn't just a mass of tissue but in fact a living breathing human being.

~~ End of backround about the images, now on to my question!~~

I am thinking about actually making these into t-shirts...and I was wondering if it would be even worth it? If it is, how much would you actually pay for them?


Thanks for the feedback everyone!! Mods, if you really think that this doesn't have any value...the please remove it. I don't want to cause a problem, merely have some questions answered.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I think the blue one works the best. However my main issue with the back is that it's too open. I think a more subtle message that conveys the same idea would be a tad more effective.

[ChristianKitsune]

hmm...I am on the search for a different saying..^^; I just gotta find one. I like the verse though.

any suggestions?

[Radical Dreamer]

:O! I really like it! My favorites are the ones with the single boy or girl on the front. Also, you could consider having the shirts in both black and white. For some reason, I think they'd look really good in black (though I rarely wear that color). XD Anyways, if I were you, I'd sell them anywhere from 15-20$. I think that if you changed the font on the back to something smaller and more subdued, it would look really great, too. Anyways, good luck with these! They look really great!

[ChristianKitsune]

I am planning on having them be multiple colors. Thsi was just a template I found on Google..because I didn't feel liek drawing a t-shirt XD

Black was one of the colors I am highly considering... ^_^ Thanks for the ideas! I will make the font smaller

EDIT: also all three of these designs will be available...whenever I find a way to sell thems

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Actually I think the black or gray baby with the white background would be the best idea.

[That Dude]

I like it...Though with 1 and 2 you might want to set the image a little off center. It would draw the eye a little more.

[ChristianKitsune]

hmm... A lot of t-shirts have images right toward the top and in the middle... O_o'

I will do some reasearch on this,

i might do a grey baby by it's self. I have no idea yet! I still gotta figure out a way to get these on the market!

[KBMaster]

Try this place: http://www.cafepress.com
I've seen pictures with anime fanart, so I guess they let you put up whatever you want. Hope that helped. Be sure to notify us when they are on the market. ^^

EDIT: Oh, they let you open your own shop for free. http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/makemoney/

[ChristianKitsune]

Try this place: http://www.cafepress.com
I've seen pictures with anime fanart, so I guess they let you put up whatever you want. Hope that helped. Be sure to notify us when they are on the market. ^^

EDIT: Oh, they let you open your own shop for free. http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/makemoney/

AWESOME thanks KB! ^_^ I hope it's not too expensive to make them XD.

[White Raven]

When I seen this thread I thought it was going to be your picture that you did a while back. I think that would look so cool.

But as it stands I think #1 looks best.

[Nami]

Hey CR-chan, this is a great way to get the message across.. I personally like all of them. But the last on should haev smaller text.. I know you already know this ^^ so I won't go on about it.

YES BLACK! Please.. I never wear white shirts.. I don't look good in white, but I would love to buy one of them! I was looking at them and I was like "Cool! I want one"

So, whenever you get them up.. I would like to have one saved for meh.. I will save some money for it.. currently I should haeve 50 bucks left from christmas so I will save for one when they get out ^^

But, I really really like it CR-chan. ^^

[chibiphonebooth]

i <3 this a lot. <33

[ChristianKitsune]

I am setting up a shop right now ^_^

WR I can make that a t-shirt as well.. but whenever I think of LARGE images I think of older people... you know like those shirts with the teddybears and stuff? the ones that look like a person over 30 would wear them...*shiver*

[ChristianKitsune]

(Ok not trying to advertise...this will be all that I will say about my shop, and I am sorry about the double post! ^^; )

My shop is now open guys, if you are interested in purchasing these shirts go here:

http://www.cafepress.com/dream_in_ink

I have all sorts of different kinds of these shirts and I added a new back.

So now the Blue Baby has the back: Abortion is Murder!
and the group has: Abortion kills, 'nuff said."
I didn't include the girl baby because it wasn't the best of the three...so yeah!

Unfortunately, Black shirts only have one side to them, and I could only have one of each...-.- sorry everyone!

EDIT: If you guys have anything to say about my shop, please discuss it here: http://www.christiananime.net/showthrea ... ost1065145

[kyoto]

Try going with different styles and designs to intrest others.

[ChristianKitsune]

I dids. ^_^ there are soo many to choose from...but I will probably end up changing a lot of them because I can only have like one type of shirt with a design at once...

[Mangafanatic]

Hey guys, I'd just like to back up what CR has said. We don't allow debate here at CAA. The staff won't allow this thread to turn into a flame throwing fest. Keep that in mind, okay?

[mitsuki lover]

Ok,but I do believe that having ABORTION IS MURDER anywhere on the t'shirt will
stir up a bit of debate wheter it is wanted or not.He should definitely get rid of that
and have something like SAVE THE CHILDREN replace it.It's less caustic and more to the point.

[Star- Chan]

Hmm, it's great! But I'd prefer a little change to it. If it's okay if I can make a design and see what you think?
The idea's great! I don't want to insult your work, y'know?

Or maybe not. I might not make one. Yours is better! *nods*

[Radical Dreamer]

Ok,but I do believe that having ABORTION IS MURDER anywhere on the t'shirt will
stir up a bit of debate wheter it is wanted or not.He should definitely get rid of that
and have something like SAVE THE CHILDREN replace it.It's less caustic and more to the point.

I dunno, I'd say "Abortion is Murder" is more to-the-point than "Save the Children". Why beat around the bush? XD I've seen a similar shirt that says "Abortion is Mean" on the front, with a verse and a phrase on the back that ends with something like, "You will stop killing my generation". Besides, I think "Abortion is Murder" adds an extra punch that a watered-down version just wouldn't have.

[Stephen]

The original group that made those shirts has since changed the term to "Abortion is homocide" I got a few of there shirts at Soulfest the last few years. Rock for Life are a good group of people. These are the new shirts they do.

http://americanlifeleague.stores.yahoo.net/clothing.html

For more info on the shirts, and whatnot, check out http://www.all.org Rock for Life is like a subthing on that main site.

[samuraidragon]

I want a shirt that says something like:

Everyone who supports slavery is free.
Everyone who supports abortion was born.

That's how oppression works.

[ChristianKitsune]

I want a shirt that says something like:

Everyone who supports slavery is free.
Everyone who supports abortion was born.

That's how oppression works.

SD I may use that ^_^

I also have an idea with a phrase that says "We save animals, why not our own kind?" or something.

I can always change the back designs everyone ^_^

[Radical Dreamer]

I also have an idea with a phrase that says "We save animals, why not our own kind?" or something.

Oh man, that brings up SUCH a good point. XD You should totally use that, CR-chan. People will go to such lengths to save ducks that have been caught in oil dumps, and yet they kill babies. That's great; you should definitely use it!

[ChristianKitsune]

^_^ I thought of that last night when the shop was like "do you want a description for your shirts?"

Should I use a different graphic? Or just put that saying on the back?

[Radical Dreamer]

I think it would work well with the graphic you have now, actually. Since "Endangered Species" is the common term for an animal that's almost extinct, having the message about saving animals but not humans on the back really emphasizes that. Perhaps you can add it to the Abortion is Murder part, above it or beneath it or something. XD

[samuraidragon]

SD I may use that ^_^

I also have an idea with a phrase that says "We save animals, why not our own kind?" or something.

I can always change the back designs everyone ^_^

How about, Save the baby whales, save the baby seals, save the baby humans. Just a thought. ^^

[ChristianKitsune]

I think it would work well with the graphic you have now, actually. Since "Endangered Species" is the common term for an animal that's almost extinct, having the message about saving animals but not humans on the back really emphasizes that. Perhaps you can add it to the Abortion is Murder part, above it or beneath it or something. XD

thanks, RD ^_^ I might replace the "Abortion is Murder" on some of the shirts and put that sayin on instead

[USSRGirl]

Hmm... how about making one of the first 3 designs the front of the shirt and the Psalm verse on the back? Heck, I'd buy it. It stands out and it's a great message.