The G5 Killer...

[Debitt]

http://www.overclockers.com/tips1133/

That guy must have been sick in the head, but I admire his bravery.

[LorentzForce]

[Bobtheduck]

nice scanners moment, lorentz. And turning the mac into a PC? Hahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha... I would never go that extreme. I'd take advantage of whatever was given to me, and work on it in the OS instead... It would take a long time to get the Mac OS the way I wanted it, but I'm sure I would after a few months. Especially since the G5 is such a powerfull computer, it would probably be worth getting used to, but I'd have to change some major things...

[shooraijin]

You do know it was a hoax, though, right?

[Straylight]

Who cares if that was a joke. The guy who came up with that idea is a genius - I know a few friends who would probably faint if they saw that.

[Fsiphskilm]

LOL...I'd like to see som

[Six]

nice scanners moment, lorentz. And turning the mac into a PC? Hahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha... I would never go that extreme. I'd take advantage of whatever was given to me, and work on it in the OS instead... It would take a long time to get the Mac OS the way I wanted it, but I'm sure I would after a few months. Especially since the G5 is such a powerfull computer, it would probably be worth getting used to, but I'd have to change some major things...

actually mac osx panther is extremely intuitive once you get out of the wacky windows way of doing things. you just have a realize that not everything is as complicated as possible with mac. once you get to the point where you relize that things are just simpler you are well on your way to being a 1337 m4{ 3n7Hu$1457

oh and in case you couldnt tell i own and love macs

[shooraijin]

Couldn't tell, no.

(dual 1.25GHz G4, Power Mac 7300+G3/500, PowerBook 1400+G3/333, ANS 500/200, IIci x 2, Quadra 605, PM 7100+G3/233, Mac Plus, IIsi, SE/30)

[Mithrandir]

You take those specs to the other thread, young man!

[Bobtheduck]

actually mac osx panther is extremely intuitive once you get out of the wacky windows way of doing things. you just have a realize that not everything is as complicated as possible with mac. once you get to the point where you relize that things are just simpler you are well on your way to being a 1337 m4{ 3n7Hu$1457

oh and in case you couldnt tell i own and love macs

Complicated windows and easy mac? Yup, I'd sure love some easy mac right now. (hehehe)

I don't consider windows complicated at all, nor do I find it crazy. I haven't tried OSX.2 or whatever version it's on right now, you're right. I was on 9.something the last time I tried it, and it was horrible. So hard to use, and it crashed more than windows 95. I couldn't set up things such as codecs to be shared across applications , and I had a very hard time finding things. I worked on it 2 or 3 times a week for a few hours a day for about 5 months, more during project times, so I didn't consider it "intuitive", especially when you have outright bizzarre actions like dragging the CD icon to the trash to eject it... That is not something one just figures out. There were no eject buttons on the CD-R drives and the zip drives, so you had to do it in the OS... Very painful when they stopped working, because there was no way to manually eject the zip disk (the CD-r, I believe, had a pinhole thing, but I could be wrong about that... I just know mine on my windows based PC has one, but it ALSO has an eject button) . Also, in the web browsers (didn't try any real word processing programs, so they may have been designed differerntly) the set of word processing buttons -- home, end, page up, and page down -- did not behave propperly. Home did nothing, and end... Oh, this one was REALLY funny in the middle of a half hour long message board post: It shut down the program! Just lovely... There was also the fact that while you could use 2 button USB mice, they were not made available to us, and I was suffocating without my second button. That is more a problem of the school than of the system, but their love for the 1 button mouse is very misguided when people are finding it hard to work with less than 3. If OSX.2 is that much of an improvement over 9.whatever, then I'd honestly have to see for myself. I just know people said how much better OS9 was than windows 95, but I would just have to disagree.

PS: The eject-less CD's and Zip drives point out what I consider Apple's primary flaw: Putting form over function. The idea of getting rid of the eject buttons was purely an aesthetic one, and a very bad decission functionally.

[Six]

compared to OS9... OS X.3 is pure bliss... it is a unix operating system and insanely stable. so yeah judging macs on an operating system they stopped using a couple of years ago is hardly fair... check out X.. its very very different form anything you've used so try not to assume its bad just because its organized differently.

[Bobtheduck]

compared to OS9... OS X.3 is pure bliss... it is a unix operating system and insanely stable. so yeah judging macs on an operating system they stopped using a couple of years ago is hardly fair... check out X.. its very very different form anything you've used so try not to assume its bad just because its organized differently.

Actually, if you payed attention, I was comparing "Mac fanaticism" on OS9 to "Mac Fanatacism" on OSX.2 or 3, giving reasons to back up why they were wrong about OS9. The fanaticism hasn't changed, so I don't see the need to trust mac fans now if I couldn't trust them then. Mac fanatics say OS9 was better than Win95. I just didn't see that. They say OSX.3 is better than XP? The substance of the claims haven't changed, so I see no need to jump at this new OS because I'm quite satisfied with my own. It's quite stable and I'm very familiar with it... No need to change my golf swing mid-game, especially if doing so would require buying a "club" worth a lot of money I don't have, just to test it out.

PS. By stable, I mean manageably stable... The only programs I've had crash are Kazaa and some other really "out there" programs, as well as normal programs in CONJUNCTION with running Kazaa or other "out there" programs. Under normal use, I have no problems with XP.

[shooraijin]

Well, as a Unix hound, I love having a real Unix workstation that also happens to be a Mac, and runs all my old Mac software. The jump to X was fabulous.

[Six]

Well, as a Unix hound, I love having a real Unix workstation that also happens to be a Mac, and runs all my old Mac software. The jump to X was fabulous.

*smiles* i like you man... you have a good head on your shoulders

[Mithrandir]

From the Diabolical dictionary:

Intelligent, (n). A word used to describe someone who agrees with us.


For the record, for the last 3 years I ran windows 98/me/XP at home and I hated OS 9 (which I had to use at work). I didn't want to go to OS X until I heard that it was the platform of choice for some of the perl developers (may have just been a rumor). Since I was a die-hard linux fan, that brought me up short. When my boss forced me to go to Mac OS X training, I learned what you can really do with a mac running OS X. Now I'm in the process of migrating one of my linux boxen to an old G3 tower running OS X. It's unbelievable what this system can do. If I don't like the way the mac behaves, I just hack the underlying OS until it does it differntly! And since I can run X11 on this system, there's not really anything I lost in the switch (except that tar -X FILE doesn't work anymore), and I gained the ability to run photoshop on my SERVER! Oh, and this box has NEVER crashed on me (in the 6 months I've had it) and it's on all the time. I never had that kind of stability in a sercure environment EVER. And when all the windows servers at work started getting blasted with every worm imaginable, I got some serious gloating rights. "Why are you so stress... Oh that's *riiiiight.* You're not running an OS X server in your department, are you?"

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