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Postby rocklobster » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:44 am

One thing I truly enjoy about anime is how thought provoking it can be. Some shows can really make you think. So what anime do you think is the most thought-provoking? Here's my list:
  • .hack//sign
  • Serial Experiments Lain
  • Full Metal Alchemist
  • Trigun
  • Wolf's Rain
  • Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:09 am

The most thought provoking out of all of them would be Paranoia Agent.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:37 am

-Evangelion
-Ghost in the Shell (movie)
-RahXephon (just a little)
-Haibane Renmei
-and my most recent, Death Note
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Postby mitsuki lover » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:10 pm

I would have to say:
*Silent Mobius
*Serial Experiments Lain
*Boogiepop Phantom
*Gatekeepers 21
*RahXephon
*Bubblegum Crisis:Tokyo 2040
*Ghost In The Shell:Stand Alone Complex(the very nature of what makes us human)
*Digimon:Tamers(specifically the relationship between Jeri and Leomon,ever noticed that the strongest Digimon was partnered with the weakest tamer?I got thinking about that yesterday.)
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Postby Ouroboros » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:26 pm

*Serial Experiments Lain
*Neon Genesis Evangelion
*Ghost in the Shell
*La Fillete Revolutionnaire Utena (Revolutionary Girl Utena)
*Pale Cocoon
*Death Note
So far anyways...
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Postby Rev. Doc » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:46 pm

I'm just going to go with one for the time being and say Twelve Kingdoms.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:52 pm

Ouroboros wrote:*Pale Cocoon


Never heard of it and just looked it up, and surprised it's only a 1 ep, 23 min OVA :/ Guess it was jammed with tons of stuff in that little amount of time?
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Postby That Dude » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:44 pm

One that I think that should be on the list is, "Now And Then, Here And There."
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:21 pm

for me, they are:
monster
paranoia agent
cowboy bebop
fullmetal alchemist
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:03 pm

It'd be Evangelion, seeing as that still to this day people talk about and analyze it like crazy. You can say Paranoia Agent if you want, but it never rose any question that fans obsess over for over ten years afterwards. It was a hit, but it doesn't have the staying power.
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Postby Animus Seed » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:08 pm

You all should know what my answer is by now. ^_^
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:37 pm

Animus Seed wrote:You all should know what my answer is by now. ^_^


sorry but i don't know... :sweat:
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- Abraham Kuyper

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- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)

"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper

"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul

"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther

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Postby Ashley » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:50 pm

Scrapped Princess, Full Moon wo Sagashite, and Cowboy Bebop all come to mind. Parts of Trigun, but I was vaguely disappointed in it by the end. *runs from fans*
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Postby Animus Seed » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:51 pm

*takes deep breath*

According to Homer, the epitome of manhood is being unable to be beaten; to wit, when the world says "no way," the Man says "yes, way."

Plato's greatest question is in the Symposium: "Is love of something, or of nothing?"

The Bible says, "Greater love hath no man than this..."

Where do these three foundations of all modern thought agree?

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^_^

When the world says, "No, way, Edward Elric, your love of your brother is of such to be as of nothing," he says, "Yes, way, my love is of something!" and proves it.

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Postby midori45 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:30 pm

Elfen Lied. That anime really makes you think about what you really would consider human. Funny thing is though I was cheering for the diclonius for the whole time. Like when you see people such as Mayu's dad, you feel so disgusted and outraged by his actions you can't believe you even belong to the same species as this guy!
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:58 pm

Joshua Christopher wrote:IYou can say Paranoia Agent if you want, but it never rose any question that fans obsess over for over ten years afterwards. It was a hit, but it doesn't have the staying power.

I would disagree. Have you seen all of Paranoia Agent, just wondering.

Oh and actually. I take back Paranoia Agent. The most thought provoking is Cat Soup. Nothing beats the surrealism of that show.
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Postby LaFlecha » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:27 pm

FMA, GITS, and some of the few episodes I've seen of NGE.
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:07 pm

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:I would disagree. Have you seen all of Paranoia Agent, just wondering.


Yes, I have. But you've got to tell me why you disagree or else I am confused. :( ???
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Postby Mithrandir » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:08 pm

MSP & JC: May I suggest you take it to PM?


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Postby ChristianKitsune » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:16 pm

I would have to agree with Haibane Renmei...

there are too many ties for second... lots of anime have thought provoking themes..
Fruits Basket comes to mind...
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Postby ducheval » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:46 pm

Tenshi no Tamago (Angel's Egg). A really awesome Mamoru Oshii movie with lots of neat imagery, and very very little dialog. There's a TON of meaning in everything in it. Yoshitaka Amano did the character designs.

After that? maybe.... Beyond the Clouds, the Promised Place.

um. After that.... maybe Omoide Poro Poro, the studio ghibli movie directed by Takahata.
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Postby TriezGamer » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:36 am

I'm going to second .hack//SIGN and Elfen Lied.

I'm also going to throw in "Voices of a Distant Star" (Hoshi no Koe) as one of the most thought-provoking things out there.

I'm about 3/4s done with Haibane Renmei, and it has lots of potential. :thumb:
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:49 am

NGE (definately at the top)
Ghost in the Shell
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:16 am

Rahxephon
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Postby Doubleshadow » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:59 am

I see most of my favorites listed, except for Witch Hunter Robin. I'll also mention a series called Jigoku Shōjo, which I have not even seen, but the summary was enough to get me thinking and in light of my ensuing conclusions from that pondering, I think the series will be too much for me.
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Postby TriezGamer » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:36 pm

Gonna have to add Higurashi no Naku Koro ni to my list.
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Postby Bap » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:49 pm

I think FLCL was sorta thought provoking... D: Well, like it confused the heck outta me, but I still like it. xD;;; .hack is pretty crazy too. @o@ Um... buh. I sorta want to say Alien 9, but I haven't watched it in forever, and that would only be based on my horrible memory of my thinking I thought it was confusing? xD;;; Maybe it wasn't actually... @o@

...buh. xD; Thought provoking as in like... it makes you rethink what you thought you already knew, or like... it was confusing? D: xD;;;
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:52 pm

Mithrandir wrote:MSP & JC: May I suggest you take it to PM?


No since asking for trouble, I always say.



Just to clarify, I wasn't talking about discussing Eva, I just wanted to know what he thought made Paranoia Agent the most thought-provoking show, but I have no intent to go on discussing it anyway.

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Postby faithfighter » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:46 am

I think
>Trigun (there is an amazing lot of Christian themes that can be taken from this one)
>last exile (since my brother and I have had indepth debates on this one)
>Gunkutsuou (how could it not? it's made off the book by Alaxander Dumes)
>Fruits basket (at least the manga is)
>Spiral (always trying to solve the mystery before they do, but never suceeding lol)
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Postby Sami_jane » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:07 am

hmm i think most of them have been named already but..

sprial
GITS and GITS2 SAC
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FMA
FLCL....always trying to figure out whats goign on. lol
Eureka 7

and i know this is a touchy topic but lets admit it... Neon Genisis Evangelion is a very thought provoking anime
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